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Old 06-17-2008, 05:24 AM
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Yes I get the jist of it. I'm surprised at how many people can speak or understand Macedonian on this forum. Makes for interesting conclusions
Yes,we all speak Greek
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:08 AM
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Ne drapaj.
Relax Be in this thought ..I'm the biggest problem just like all the other hellenophon Macedonians!!! You know that I'm native as it gets and me , my parents , my grandparents , my great grant parents and my g.g.g.p (so far I can search) spoke ONLY Greek ...

..to help you the only word of Slavic that we use in our Greek dialect in my region is "gusteritsa" for the big ,green , hamless lizard
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:22 AM
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Their ancestors would never have occupied ancient Macedonia had the empire not been disunited at that time. I doubt the Romans would have got far had Alexander been at the helm. He did a big mistake that he did not designate a successor.
Why do you care about ancient Macedonia?What's that you have common with it?Your people hasn't any relation to it,either biologically or culturally.There isn't any such continuity of ancient Macedonians among the Slavic people of today's FYROM.This continuity exists only among the native Greek people of Macedonia
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Yes I get the jist of it. I'm surprised at how many people can speak or understand Macedonian on this forum. Makes for interesting conclusions
What Macedonian?It's as much Macedonian as Alexander was a Chinese.You're talking actually about the western dialect of Bulgarian.The really Macedonian language was in antiquity this:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...a+curse+tablet
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/ic...rse_tablet.pdf
And modern Macedonian dialects are like this:
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...-dialects.html
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Αυτός τε γαρ Έλλην ειμί γένος τωρχαίον.
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Alexander I of Macedonia,in Herodotos' book Kalliopi,IX,45.

You can fool all of the people some of the time
You can fool some of the people all of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:28 AM
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Now that would be a dream i would like to wake up too. Really starting to get over these wannabee Greeks.

Oh well, back to the proverbial wall.

Actually it's the Greeks who wannabee Macedonians I presume you meant to say!
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:31 AM
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αδερφια γυρναει ο τροχος και εχει αρχιζει και *μπιπ* ο 'φτωχος'

αστε τους νεοταξιτες χαφιεδες και τους καλικατζαρους σκοπιανους με τους συνεργους τους να μιλανε και να χορευουνε. Ολοι αυτοι θα τον πιουνε μια και καλη
ἀνδρῶν δικαίων χρόνος σωτήρ ἄριστος

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:42 AM
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Actually it's the Greeks who wannabee Macedonians I presume you meant to say!
No,you can't understand.Some of the Greeks are Macedonians,not all of them and only those who have Macedonian origin (like Andrew,me and many others here) call themselves Macedonians.We don't want be Macedonians,we are indeed Macedonians as our history,language and culture proves.As for you,your history,language and culture proves that you have nothing to do with Macedonia.The descendands of ancient Macedonians can be only Greek,like their ancestors,nothing else.
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I am myself a Greek by ancient descend.
Alexander I of Macedonia,in Herodotos' book Kalliopi,IX,45.

You can fool all of the people some of the time
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But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:44 AM
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Actually it's the Greeks who wannabee Macedonians I presume you meant to say!
So we have a "nation" that talk Bulgarian,a few years ago they were calling themselfs Bulgarians,the other nations around them call them Bulgarians,their national heroes (except the madness of believing that ancient Macedonians were not Greeks) are Bulgarians.
Its kind funny e?
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Brother, sleep easily. Because our land, is at last Greek!!!!!!

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:51 AM
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Actually it's the Greeks who wannabee Macedonians I presume you meant to say!
Let me tell you some elementary mathematics

Greece INCLUDES Macedonia ...that is Greece > Macedonia ...

....no Gree kwill say to you Greece = Macedonia , but they say :

MACEDONIA IS A PART OF GREECE (just as Strabo said in late antiquity)

to make the example more appropriate for the FYROM cognitive standards:

FRUITS ARE NO APPLES ..BUT APPLES ARE FRUITS
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κακοὶ μάρτυρες ἀνθρώποισιν ὀφθαλμοὶ καὶ ὦτα βαρβάρους ψυχὰς ἐχόντων

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:53 AM
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So we have a "nation" that talk Bulgarian,a few years ago they were calling themselfs Bulgarians,the other nations around them call them Bulgarians,their national heroes (except the madness of believing that ancient Macedonians were not Greeks) are Bulgarians.
Its kind funny e?

Bulgaria still exists last time I saw! Not sure what kind of crap your stirring at?
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Let me tell you some elementary mathematics

Greece INCLUDES Macedonia ...that is Greece > Macedonia ...

....no Gree kwill say to you Greece = Macedonia , but they say :

MACEDONIA IS A PART OF GREECE (just as Strabo said in late antiquity)

to make the example more appropriate for the FYROM cognitive standards:

FRUITS ARE NO APPLES ..BUT APPLES ARE FRUITS

Yes agreed, there is a part of Macedonia in Greece i'm not stating otherwise.
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