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Old 05-27-2008, 03:48 PM
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It doesn't mean that any more though. It makes you wonder why the translator didn't just write "pagan" if it means pagan.
Well the bible cant be changed at our disposal as you can appreciate. Thus the original meanings/ translations are embedded, despite the modern phenomena that has taken place.
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Well the bible cant be changed at our disposal as you can appreciate. Thus the original meanings/ translations are embedded, despite the modern phenomena that has taken place.
So what does the word "Ellin" in the original mean? Does it mean "Greek" or does it mean "pagan"?
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So what does the word "Ellin" in the original mean? Does it mean "Greek" or does it mean "pagan"?
I think you need to reopen the other thread, so we don't pollute all the threads with the same stuff. The Greek church thread.

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I think you need to reopen the other thread, so we don't pollute all the threads with the same stuff. The Greek church thread.
or a thread about "scopije schizmatics and orthodoxy"
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:03 PM
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or a thread about "scopije schizmatics and orthodoxy"
Can we rename this to Religious discussion?
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I think you need to reopen the other thread, so we don't pollute all the threads with the same stuff. The Greek church thread.
<Pollute> ? I did never expect from a religious person like you to call <pollution> the quoting of excerpts from the Bible,because they don't suit to your <Makedonski> theory!Relax,you'll be anathematized and eternally burning in hell for this!
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<Pollute> ? I did never expect from a religious person like you to call <pollution> the quoting of excerpts from the Bible,because they don't suit to your <Makedonski> theory!Relax,you'll be anathematized and eternally burning in hell for this!
Don't jump the gun Kostakis. You are misrepresenting what I meant.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:07 PM
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So what does the word "Ellin" in the original mean? Does it mean "Greek" or does it mean "pagan"?
Originally the word Hellene was taken to mean pagan.
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Originally the word Hellene was taken to mean pagan.
This is a modern English translation though and in the English language Hellene is a synonym for Greek. If in Koine Greek the word meant pagan it should have been translated as such, no?
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:13 PM
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This is a modern English translation though and in the English language Hellene is a synonym for Greek. If in Koine Greek the word meant pagan it should have been translated as such, no?
The words hellene and pagan were synonymous in that period, I posted something on this matter in the other the other long thread. So thus when they used hellene they were indeed referring to pagan, so you can use the terms interchangeably.

The modern definition is an entirely different concept.

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