Now they circulate a fake contract from 1915!!!

[Petros Houhoulis]

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...1&d=1210757313

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...1&d=1210757313

Apart from the different boldings, one has to notice that the witnesses did not provide any signatures, nor did the translator. Is that normal?

What is NOT NORMAL is the writing of the letter L (lambda) especially in the second part of the letter. In there, in some words the letter is all above the line - in par with the other letters - and in some of the other words it is divided by the line in half. Furthermore, even the versions of the same letter written divided by or below the line are variating wildly. Just compare the words:

Line 1: Ellinikis (over the line, first letter has both arms almost identical, second letter has them quite distinctive)
Line 1: Glossas (divided by the line, top arm makes normal 90 degrees turn to left)
Line 2: Tanapalin (divided by the line, top arm decapitated!!! bottom arms almost parallel!!!)
Line 3: olon (over the line)
Line 3: Dilosantos (divided by the line, long arm of the left part below the line)
Line 4: Symvallomenoi (first letter decapitated on the top, second is normal, both are divided by the line)
Line 6: Symbolaiografos (divided by the line, short arms below the line, dissimilar with the same letter in the same word of the Line 9!!!)
Line 6: Kouvelas (divided by the line, long arm of the right part below the line)
Line 8: Florini (divided by the line, left arm below the line is like a hook, making a 180 degrees turn, but narrower than that of line 9.)
Line 9: Symbolaiografos (divided by the line, left arm below the line is like a hook, making a 180 degrees turn, but wider than that of Line 8. Dissimilar with the same letter in the same word of the line 6!!!)

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR ONE PERSON TO WRITE THE SAME LETTER DIFFERENTLY WITHIN THE SAME TEXT, AND SO FREQUENTLY, EVEN WITHIN SEQUENCE IN THE SAME WORD (LINE 4 SYMBALLOMENOI) OR THE SAME WORD IN DIFFERENT LOCATION (LINES 6 & 9 SYMBOLAIOGRAFOS)!!!

You can find even more inconsistencies, like the letter T written in different ways in the Line 4. The name Stoilof (unless if it is Stoitsef, not so likely) has a different T from the word martyres. If though the name is Stoitsef (and not Stoilof, most likely that's the correct one) then we have different T's in the very same name "Stoitsef"!!!

I could go on if I was interested to search, but I can already tell you that it is a forgery...

As for the lawyer, he was one of them. You see, there was only one translator...

[Truth Bearer]

Why just not post the forgery Pertros???The link doesn't open....

[Truth Bearer]

Skopjian cut, copy, paste, run, and eventually hide. The latter part, the bolded says that the Greek language(Ellinikin) to be translated to the "Makedonikin" and "Tourkikin". First of all, except for the fact that this "document" is 2, with even different boldings, and cannot be accepted as authentic, there is one more reason why this document is "forged", the man who wrote this document was a Greek lawyer, and a lawyer cannot order the translation of a language that simply does not exist. The language at the time(1915) existed as Slavic, and after the Abecedar as "Bulgarian", and after the Serbo-Bulgarian arguments in the League of Nations as the Slavic idiom(dopia). So basically, this is just one more of your forgeries, along with the many others trashed in this very thread.

[Drama]

I need higher analysis for checking it with photoshop!

[kostas68]

Either it's genuine or fake(most likely),since the existence of <Macedonian> language isn't mentioned by the official Greek state but by a simple lawyer,it hasn't any value.The one who speaks about <Macedonian> language is a local from Florina which means that this document is devoid of unbiasedness.He could be one of the early <Macedonists> and who knows if 35 years later some of his descendands fled to FYROM.This document has the same value that would have after 100 years a document written by Voskopoulos,in which he mentions <Macedonian> language and ethnic <Macedonians>:It's the same as if someone reading such a document in 2108 concludes that Greece recognized in 2008 <Macedonian> language and ethnic <Macedonians>.

[edessa]

Some questions have to raised, such as who is this letter being sent to, and why is it 'Florina' and not 'Lerin' if it was written by a macedonist

[edessa]

Also, i think the numerous concrete quotes, artifacts and letters stating the bulgarian origins of their founding fathers and the reason for the creation of their state kind of smashes these dubious claims of 'macedonians' existing like in greece, like as if they were phantoms or ghosts

[digenis]

Pathetic ...!

[Orphic_Hymn]

Besides the obvious which is that parts A' and B' are written with a different pen (no other way to explain the apparent color difference) one can't but wonder how its possible for the paper's "margin" to change just half way down?
In the first we have approx. 10cm "lined paper" and a 1.5cm "margin" while in the second the "lined paper" is raised to 11.8cm and the "margin" reduced to 0.7cm

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by edessa

Some questions have to raised, such as who is this letter being sent to, and why is it 'Florina' and not 'Lerin' if it was written by a macedonist

He couldn't write <Lerin>,the Bulgarian name of Florina on a document that had to be attested by the Greek authorities.Even Voskopoulos wouldn't do it.