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View Poll Results: Do you think that the document is genuine or a forgery?
The whole document is genuine. 4 20.00%
The whole document is a forgery. 11 55.00%
The top part is genuine, but the bottom is a forgery. 5 25.00%
The top part is a forgery, but the bottom part is genuine. 0 0%
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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Also it looks like theres some writing, and a stamp, on the other sides of both the papers
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Why is it cut in half?

Anyway, apart from the obvious inconsistency in with the two parts of the style, notice how differently the lettering of two similar words, Ellinon and Ellinikon, differ completely. There’s also a similar contrast in style with the name, Basileios Koubehas. Surely there must be a consistency when spelling one’s name.

But admittingly I'm justbeing pandetic.
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Also it looks like theres some writing, and a stamp, on the other sides of both the papers
You're right,there is something written on the other sides.Why didn't they scann them too?
Shouldn't they quote the whole text?It's their usual tactic to hide the <annoying> excerpts of a document or text and i can imagine what they are hiding:The real name of this language.
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These 'macedonians' sure were good at being hidden until 1945, then having their ethnic origins slowly untraced backwards
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WHere is the "who cares?" option?
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Default The forgery was done by a person more accustomed to English than Greek.

The forgery was done by a person more accustomed to English than Greek. How do I know that?

Did you notice how the name Stoichef was written?

The T's are different, because in the English language - and their language too - they use more consonants than the Greek does - the eternal "fis & tsips" joke about the Greek accent in English - and thus they write the name in an entirely different way.

In proper Greek, no "C" letter exists, nor any exact equivalent for this letter. Therefore the name is spelled "Stoitsef" versus the English "Stoichef".

Now check the letter again and tell me what does the second "T" in the Stoichef name looks like? Well, yes, it is actually a "C" as if the document was written in English or another language, but not Greek!!!

Poor fellas, they betrayed themselves so easily! Although the text itself has an almost perfect orthography, the art of writing is not so easy as they assumed it to be...
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No sorry Petros I don't buy that theory.The 2nd T is a T not a C.Spelt STOITSEF where do u see the C in that?
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The fact is that the letter τ (ταυ) is written by three different ways:
1st way)First document:look in the 4th line the words εν τω συμβολαοιογραφείω,5th line the words της οδου,6th line the words την Τρίτην.Second document:first line,the words της Ελληνικής,την Μακεδονικήν.
2nd way)First document:8th line in the word κατοικοεδρεύοντος,9th line in the word πολιτών.Second document:second line the word τανάπαλιν,third line the word οφειλέτου.
3th way)Second document:4th line,Σταύρος and the first τ in the surname Στόιτσεφ.
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Yes I can see that so what does this tell us?How can someone write one letter 3 different ways??
Also look at the way he writes the letter T in Tourkikon again differently from the other 3.Is this normal I don't know??
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Yes I can see that so what does this tell us?How can someone write one letter 3 different ways??
If he writes these letters for first time in his live...
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