All the necessary evidence that prove the lies of the scopjian propaganda!

[Ariadni_Nefeli]

Macedonie 100 procent Grieks!

Dutch newspapers Spits, one of the free newpapers in metro and bus stations.

[Ariadni_Nefeli]

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[Cadmus]

Then why was there a battle in 41 around Bitola and the Fyrom-Bulgarian borders, and the yugoslav army which in Fyrom consited of Macedonian soldiers in divisions fighting the germans , do you think they opened the door and said you can pass now...and go on and attack Greece...and there were no Macedonian partizan divisions operating there in Fyrom territory fighting the Germans?

Fine all Fyromians are nazis...let me remind you that in my country Holland we had 2 ss divisions of all dutch conscripts mostly and in total we had 60.000 men in the wss divisions spread out in all the wss divisions available! and even more men serving in the regular armed forces like Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe /RAD divisions hitlerjugend and NSB the Dutch nazi organisation...do you call all the Dutch people nzais to? because in ww2 we had a small percentage joining them...? the percentage of Fyromians was much much smaller cooperating with the germans Ariadne believe what you want to believe...in this way you are not much better then the average brainwashed Skop because that virtue is not only accredited for Skops only..

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Cadmus

...in this way you are not much better then the average brainwashed Skop because that virtue is not only accredited for Skops only..

Wise words Cadmus , I also believe that who generalizes specific situations is far from being objective !!!

[Ariadni_Nefeli]

I don't understand the whole issue here. I just posted the photos of fyromians with Wermacht and the SS, and many other evidents that have been gathered from the internet that have been linked with the scopian propaganda with a lot of effort, and I suddenly receive an insult from nowhere? Fyromians have anyway the tendency to create alliances that they will serve their purposes, as they are doing today with turkey and USA, as they did with the comitadjis. These photos were published from the Greek newspapers and every blog that deals with the issue, and it was my duty to post them, as I do with everything I have found all these time.

If you want to open a thread about the issue, fine with me no problem with that, I don't want for this thread to be ruined anyway, but I sincerely don't understand what this is all about all of the sudden. I think I deserve better than that.

[akritas]

Ariadni PLEASE read this thread.
Cadmus is just very sensitive when we speak for this part of FYROM history.

[Cadmus]

Originally Posted by Ariadni_Nefeli

vardarskians Nazi Collaborators!

This is the only problem i have ...i asked to refrain from this statement..that's all...its clearly a generalisation. it doesnt fit for at all for this great website, and i dont intend to attack or insult Ariadne at all..i kind of like her attitude, and admire it! but im not shy to adress and point out someone to a mistake.

Talking about generalisations we can clearly say that the whole Fyrom government and high political members are corrupt and misleadthat is not a generalisation but a fact

Ariadne what i said and meant is that if you call all Fyromians (their populace living in Fyrom in ww2) Nazi's it is an unjust and (im sorry brainwashed remark) because its simply not that clear and a black and white situation...
Ariadne with all your other remarks about Skopians i fully agree! and like it because its on spot !

No hard feelings and i hope no harm done.

All the best,

[Cadmus]

Originally Posted by akritas

Ariadni PLEASE read this thread.
Cadmus is just very sensitive when we speak for this part of FYROM history.

No im not sensitive because in Holland being that close to Germany it had much more ties with Nazism then Fyrom...and im not ashamed of it, because the world back then wasnt that well informed and people were easily mislead..and chose for the wrong side..

But i have to agree any country that formed as a body to create Wehrmacht or wss divisions like Belgium/Holland/Norway and the Baltic states as well as Bosnia and Albanians had much more guilt and explaining to do then the rest..but its all history right now and to be honest the regular foreign collaborator infantryman fighting for the German army cant be blamed that much because they didnt know any better...its the real hardcore warcriminals that put a blasphemous curse on all others (the innocent young boys fighting for their lives and didnt knew better)..

But we didnt learn from it war atrocities are still being commited nowadays Irak/Afghanistan/Bosnia etc..there will always be the evil of men..
This reminds me of a phrase i saw in a war movie once: "If god is on our side then who could be against us..such clear black and white situations as in ww2 Nazi vs the rest of the world (simplified good against evil) is nowhere to be found now ...all sides commit warcrimes some more then others but its not justified to react in the same way if warcrimes are commited on your brothers..

[Cadmus]

You guys are all discusing in Greek ...i cant follow it...tomorrow morning first thing im ordering is the Greek studybooks for beginners.

[Cadmus]

Now all the texts in Greek are gone! allright i look stupid now..its time for me to go to bed.................zzzzzzzzzzzzz....