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Old 03-05-2008, 04:58 PM
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Bulgaria MP: Macedonia Was, and Is Bulgarian


5 March 2008, Wednesday


The leader of the VMRO party Krasimir Karakachanov declared in Bulgarian parliament Wednesday that "Macedonia was and is Bulgarian". Photo by Yuliana Nikolova (Sofia Photo Agency)
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The leader of the VMRO party Krasimir Karakachanov presented in parliament Wednesday a protest declaration regarding the repressive measures against citizens of the Republic of Macedonia who declare themselves Bulgarian.

"A country which does not follow the European standards, and which persecutes its citizens with Bulgarian self-consciousness, has no place in the European Union", the VMRO declaration reads.

MP Karakachanov called upon the key state institutions - the President, the Parliament, and the Council of Ministers - to adopt this position.

Karakachanov said the protest declaration was triggered by the recent case in the Macedonian town of Veles, where the local police filed a suit against the Bulgarian citizen Dragi Karev for building in his own yard a bust of Todor Alexandrov, a famous Bulgarian revolutionary hero from Macedonia.

"In the recent months the treatment of Macedonian citizens, which declare themselves Bulgarian, is taking very ugly and antidemocratic forms", the declaration concludes.

Karakachanov ended his speech with the words: "Maceonian was and is Bulgarian, long live Bulgaria".

The VMRO political party that he chairs is the successor of the Internal Macedonian and Thracian Revolutionary Organization, founded in 1893.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=90983

Correct Mr. Karakachanov!

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so there are 2 VMRO parties? one in FYROM one in Bulgaria? LOL!
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The majority of the bulgarians consider Macedonia including the Greek part as bulgarian and of course have their own ridiculous theories, the scopians as fellow cousins are simply openly expressing this view

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The majority of the bulgarians consider Macedonia including the Greek part as bulgarian and of course have their own ridiculous theories, the scopians as fellow cousins are simply openly expressing this view

let the bulgarians believe what they want. let them "na ta kanoun poutana" in scopje cause thats the best they can do, and yes they do have rights on the bulgarian population of FYROM. as for the one and ONLY Macedonia, the greek north province noone will ever get it, it wasnt anyone else's in the first place. It was and always be HELLENIC.
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so there are 2 VMRO parties? one in FYROM one in Bulgaria? LOL!
DOnt they have like a thousand different VMRO parties in fyrom?
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The VMRO was originally Bulgarian. Let the Bulgarians do what they are doing now its good for Greece. It will just show to the world that the skopians are really just Bulgarian. It will benefit Greece in the long run. As for the Bulgarian theories that they are Macedonian all I can do is laugh.
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As for the Bulgarian theories that they are Macedonian all I can do is laugh.
What Bulgarian theories?
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Neither the modern Skopjian or Bulgarian VMRO parties have any real connection (enough to be called the "successor") to the historical Bulgarian organisation.
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Neither the modern Skopjian or Bulgarian VMRO parties have any real connection (enough to be called the "successor") to the historical Bulgarian organisation.

Many people claim that the Bulgarian VMRO was created after the fall of Communism in 1989 with the only goal to obtain the lucrative property of the organisation nationalised after 1945.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:22 AM
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let the bulgarians believe what they want. let them "na ta kanoun poutana" in scopje cause thats the best they can do, and yes they do have rights on the bulgarian population of FYROM. as for the one and ONLY Macedonia, the greek north province noone will ever get it, it wasnt anyone else's in the first place. It was and always be HELLENIC.
Well, I think that we have already found a consensus in Macedonia, although we have some clash of terminologies.

For us, Macedonia has not changed since the time of Philip the second, so the most of it is within the Greek soil.

For the most of the Bulgarians, Macedonia is the expanded version that includes all the Slavic populations, although they are clever enough to realize that they cannot claim places that have no Slavic populations. So they do not claim the Albanians too, or the Greek people. They do claim that Slavs lived in Greek lands - a true statement, but Greeks lived in Bulgarian lands too and they also acknowledge it, and they have more or less compromised with the changes of populations, as we have compromized with the Turks more or less with the exchanges of the Lausanne treaty.

Thus, despite of them calling Macedonia something that is not Macedonia, we shall manage to get along with them, and even cooperate against the total fallacy of the third part. Obviously the history of the area is complex and everybody can claim legitimate historical rights, but the Bulgarians in general do not doubt the Greek borders anymore...
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