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Old 03-23-2006, 04:05 PM
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In severals sources mentioned that in the end of the Greek Civil war the greater part of the Democratic Army (Communists) composed of Slavmacedonians. (Woodhouse, Sfetas, Zhshs e.t.c.) .
I am curious if we can call the second phase of this war as civil or something else ?

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Old 03-23-2006, 05:49 PM
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Are those sources discounting the fact that many were Slavophones and not skoupidiano-Bulgarians?

I would call it part of the civil war even if Tito did lend lots of support as is the norm in civil war for outside parties
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:48 AM
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Many of the Slavphones that coorporated with the Bulgarians during the triple occupation of macedonia were rejected from Yugoslav and Greek Communist Leaderships at 1943-44.
But the Communist route and the majority of them were in the side of the Democratic army. Don't forget that a great number of the 29000 children that adopted from them were Slavophones kids

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The biggest traitors were the leaders the Greek Communist Party, the ones that dragged villagers and innocent Greek Slavophones in to arms and forced them to shoot in many occasions. The ones that betrayed us and them since at the very end they abandoned them, the leaders of the Communist Party returned from Russia and even have official state burials when they die!! The ones in Bitola have jack!!!
Even today the filthy Commos are doing the same think, here have a look at their press release 9 days ago regarding the Ouranio Toxo defamation case http://www.sitemaker.gr/antiethnikis...uraniotoxo.doc …a re pigadi pou theloun ta kathikia!
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:38 AM
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For the ones reading Greek and wanting a better understanding of The KKE (Greek Comunist Party) double face should read this interesting article too.
http://www.sitemaker.gr/antiethnikis...ridakontra.doc
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For the ones reading Greek and wanting a better understanding of The KKE (Greek Comunist Party) double face should read this interesting article too.
http://www.sitemaker.gr/antiethnikis...ridakontra.doc
If anyone (English speaker) want to read some thinks for the Greek Civil War I suggest the

As about the Leaders of the KKE *(ELAS or Democratic Army) is known that from 1936 (at least) was under the Soviet Leadership quidance. They dream the Balkan Federation. Actually FYROMians (e.g. Stefou )used a lot of Communust documents (Rizospastis, Commitern ) in order to show us what done the bad Greeks.
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Old 03-26-2006, 01:19 AM
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Default What do our fathers say?

I know this is purely anecdotal and my father would be the first to say that even though he was in the Greek army for part of WW II and the Civil War he was mostly at the rear. However, he made it clear to me on many occassions that during the Civil War he fought against GREEKS, not Slavs. He viewed the "ardates" as enemies and betrayers of Greece. Was Tito involved? the Russians? I don't know and I haven't researched it. But if our fathers can't be trusted who can?
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Krateros as you said your father was in the back-line during the civil war. As also you didn't seeking enouph in order to see more clear the events of the civil war.
What is your opinion for the SNOF ?
Take some informations here
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Akrita stop misleading the people of this forum.
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Old 03-26-2006, 04:15 AM
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Akrita stop misleading the people of this forum.
Ya sou Nikola me ta epixirhmata sou
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