A dumb idea

[Draco]

What do you think of the idea of Greece renaming itself to Greece-Macedonia or Hellas-Macedonia (along the lines of Bosnia-Hercegovina or Serbia and Montenegro) and introducing the Vergina Sun into the national flag etc. If anyone can use any name (however provocative) by simply making the choice, then the Skopjian government shouldn't protest.

[Tsontos]

i cant think of anything more undignified than changing a country's name and flag for the sake of a bananna republic like FYROM.

Greece holds the power in the name issue (EU and NATO) and acts like the international pressure is so unbearable that we are in the weaker position.

[bugarash]

In my opinion it will leave the impression that your state is a kind of a federation between two parts - Greece and Macedonia. It will sound like Macedonia is something that's not part of Greece proper, but more or less a separate unit. This will strenghten FYROM's position that Aegean Macedonia does not belong to Greece.

[Drama]

What the hell are you talking about??
Greece IS Macedonia!

Is there any other kingdom or state from antiquity which is more HELLENIC then macedonia??
Don't forget that this period was/ is an will be called HELLENISTIC PERIOD...

ΕΣΤΥΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ!


I have no problem to call this cevapcici republic macedonia! If they want the name.. they can have it.. We know of history.. And the history is written.. and can't be RE-written!

[pankration]

The sentiment is right but impractical. Using that logic, why not name Greece, Athenian Greece or some other similar moniker? After all, Athens has had a greater role in the history of Greece than the Macedonians.
I liked a posting that I saw on this forum that called FYROM, Fyromia. Nice ring to it.

[Reaper]

Even when philip conquered Greece I do not think he forced the name macedonia on the nation, or did he?

[Tsontos]

No. It was the Hellenic League of which he, and subsequently Alexander, had the title of "Hegemon".

League of Corinth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Demetrius Doukas]

Originally Posted by pankration

The sentiment is right but impractical. Using that logic, why not name Greece, Athenian Greece or some other similar moniker? After all, Athens has had a greater role in the history of Greece than the Macedonians.
I liked a posting that I saw on this forum that called FYROM, Fyromia. Nice ring to it.

I do not Agree, Macedonians made the Hellenic culture known around the whole ancient word, also Macedonians saved Greece from the Persion invasion by making the panhellenic alliance without them hardly any one in the world would know about the Greek culture at all. Yes Athens was culturully developed but without the Macedonians who protected the north borders from barbarian invasions I do not see whether Athens would have be able to achieve this. Both are important - the one from millitary point of view the other from cultural point of view. Like the two heads on the eagle on the Byzantine flag.

[Tsontos]

Originally Posted by Demetrios Doukas

I do not Agree, Macedonians made the Hellenic culture known around the whole ancient word, also Macedonians saved Greece from the Persion invasion by making the panhellenic alliance without them hardly any one in the world would know about the Greek culture at all. Yes Athens was culturully developed but without the Macedonians who protected the north borders from barbarian invasions I do not see whether Athens would have be able to achieve this. Both are important - the one from millitary point of view the other from cultural point of view. Like the two heads on the eagle on the Byzantine flag.

Guys. Clearly Crete and has had a greater role and specifically Chania is the centre of Hellenism. Really Chania should be the capital of the Cretan-Hellenic Republic.

[Demetrius Doukas]

Originally Posted by bugarash

In my opinion it will leave the impression that your state is a kind of a federation between two parts - Greece and Macedonia. It will sound like Macedonia is something that's not part of Greece proper, but more or less a separate unit. This will strenghten FYROM's position that Aegean Macedonia does not belong to Greece.

In that case I think more proper to rename the whole Hellas temporarilly to Macedonia. It does not make much sense any way because the other Hellenic tribes will be neglected.