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Old 05-23-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Karamanlis' visit & Skopjian lobby in Australia

The Skopjians sent their 'lobbying skills' into overdrive this week as they UMD has been sending press releases and even buying whole adverstisment spaces in major newspapers

Heres a UMD release:
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UMD CALLS AUSTRALIAN PM TO URGE GREECE TO UPHOLD RIGHTS OF MACEDONIAN MINORITY

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The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) called upon Australia to urge Greece to uphold the rights of the Macedonian national minority living in this country.

UMD's appeal to the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, comes in the eve of the meeting with his counterpart Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis, who is paying an official visit to Australia.

"UMD encourages the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard to use his meeting on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 with his counterpart Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis to call on Greece to cease the repression of its ethnic minorities", UMD's letter says.

The organization of the Macedonian Diaspora also urged Canberra to recognize the Republic of Macedonia under its constitutional name.

"Australia should play a more constructive role in Southeastern European affairs by recognizing the Republic of Macedonia under its constitutional name, as have the majority of permanent members of the UN Security Council, and by encouraging Greece to meet its human rights obligations and to protect the civil liberties for all of its citizens" says the letter.

Reminding on a series of facts relating violation of human rights of minorities living in Greece, including the Macedonian one, UMD has notified Howard that the Council of Europe, OSCE, State Department, the European Court of Human Rights and a number of international organizations, have all found Greece guilty of human rights abuses.

Therefore, United Macedonian Diaspora urged Australia to condemn the violation of human rights by Greece, to call upon this country to protect the human and civil rights of all of its citizens and to recognize the Republic of Macedonia under its constitutional name.

MD: Karamanlis and Bakoyannis are both paying a visit to Australia and New Zealand. Australia has probably the most Macedonian diaspora members and still not recognized us under our constitutional name, they also have a big Greek population.

And the Pan-Macedonian response:

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The Panmacedonian Federation of Australia deplores the thoroughly racist, historically inaccurate Advertisement appearing in “The Australian” newspaper on 23 May 2007 by various “Macedonian” community organisations. That advertisement seems calculated to incite racial hatred and raises the spectre of irredentism, attitudes that are completely un-Australian. Certainly the claims made in the advertisement are not shared by the majority of Australians whose origins stem from the geographic region of Macedonia, and it is ironic that this advertisement was published in the context of a visit to Australia by the Macedonian Prime Minister of Greece, Mr Kostas Karamanlis.



In the advertisement, it is claimed that Greece “seized Southern Macedonia.” The implication is of course that this territory rightfully belongs to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. In subtly calling for a ‘revision’ of borders, the advertisement’s sponsors conveniently neglect to mention that the geographical region of Macedonia was awarded to Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece and Albania after the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913 by the international community, on ethno-linguistic lines. At no stage was there any consideration of a “Macedonian” ethnic identity by any of these nations or the international communities, simply because that ‘identity’ did not exist at that time. In an age of consensus and peace, why are the so-called “peaceful Macedonians” advocating a revision of borders set in 1913?



Much ink is further spilled in attempting to convince the reader that the human rights of “Macedonians” are not protected in Greece. Nothing could be further from the truth. Greek local government officials have fostered a spirit of cross-border co-operation with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) and cultural exchanges are common. Much aid is sent by Greece to FYROM. A political party known as Rainbow-Vinozhito, which openly claims that there are tens of thousands of ethnic “Macedonians” living in Greek territory is permitted freely to take part in the Greek electoral process, despite not being able to advance any evidence to back its claims.



The sponsors of the advertisement can advance no evidence for their claim that “Macedonians” are being denied the right to study their own language and promulgate their culture in Greece. Indeed, their claim that Greek citizens have their land confiscated for doing so is fallacious and defamatory, considering that there is no such mechanism allowed for in Greek law.



Perhaps the sponsors of the advertisement could explain why, in ‘democratic’ FYROM, the local primate of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Archbishop Jovan, has been incarcerated, for refusing to adopt a ‘Macedonian’ identity? Could they also explain why the Greek, Albanian, Vlach and Roma minorities in that country have no right to education, religious instruction in their mother tongue? Could they explain why it is that so many members of ethnic minorities in that country have had their names forcibly changed so as to appear more ‘Macedonian?’ The FYROM government’s record on Human Rights is a sordid one, even to the extent where its persecution of its local Helsinki Committee for Human Rights President Mrs Mirjana Najcevska caused the intervention of several international organizations.



Finally, we ask why it is that the sponsors of the advertisement insist upon a culturally exclusivist and racist definition of the word Macedonian. According to them, a Macedonian is a person who speaks the official language of FYROM and identifies himself as ascribing to an identity set out by its government. According to them, the many Albanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Roma, Serbs and Turks who reside in the wider geographical region and have done so for the same amount of time, do not have the right to identify with their homelands, or to call themselves Macedonian. Adopting this logic would be akin to a non-native minority in this state denying others the right to call themselves Victorian.



The Panmacedonian Federation of Australia, being a federation of various Macedonian organizations, condemns the malicious and false allegations in the advertisement and commits itself to supporting the cohesive, peaceful and tolerant fabric of Australian society. Sadly this is not achieved by name-calling, calling for the revision of borders and denying other peoples’ right to self-identification. It applauds the Australian Government’s current position on the naming of FYROM as the only sensible and viable solution, until such time as the government of FYROM and the people who identify culturally with that republic, understand that they cannot use rcial criteria to deny others the right to identify themselves as Macedonians.





Yours faithfully,

Dimitris Minas

PANMACEDONIAN FEDERATION OF AUSTRALIA
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:36 PM
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Here's the first couple of paragraphs of the advertisement that was run in yesterday's "The Australian" (Wed 23 May 2007)

Mr Howard and Mr Karamanlis should respect human rights

Prime minister Howard should use the visit by Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis to call on Greece to meet its human rights obligations towards ethnic minorities.

Australia should play a more constructive role in the region by recognising the Republic of Macedonia under the name chosen by its sovereign citizens.


Ever since it seized Southern Macedonia in the Balkan Wars of 1912/13, Greece has denied the right of indigenous Macedonians to maintain their language and ethnic identity. Greece implements a policy of forcefully assimilating ethnic minorities in order to create an ethnically homogenous nation.

Peaceful Macedonians who identify as Macedonians, or speak Macedonian in public, face severe intimidation, discrimination, and violence by the state and by an aggressively nationalist society that is fostered by state institutions. Macedonians are denied the freedom to study their own language, maintain and promulgate their culture, or to establish their own associations and religious parishes. Macedonians who have spoken out against this persecution have been exiled, harassed, and have had their properties confiscated.


They also provided the contact details of Howard and Karamanlis so that concerned Australians could write expressing their concerns. I think I might just write a couple of letters
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BTW, where was the Pan Macedonian response published?
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:39 AM
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which page was this article on and how big was it?
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:30 AM
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The Skopjian article took up half of page 4 of The Australian. The PanMac Association should look into taking legal action for this libelous advertisement and also for the fact that the Star of Vergina was used - once again, in defiance of the Interim Agreement. The Skopjians are no friends of the Hellenes - When will Greece wake up to this fact? Anyone who believes otherwise is (and I'm sorry if I sound harsh) a traitor to the homeland.
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:38 AM
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:37 AM
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I agree, Mak22. Greece has made far too many compromises already. The Former Yugoslav Republic of Vardaska is Greece's no.1 enemy at the moment and makes no secret of its expansionist designs on the Hellenic Republic. Close the borders, Mr Karamanli.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:31 AM
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I agree, Mak22. Greece has made far too many compromises already. The Former Yugoslav Republic of Vardaska is Greece's no.1 enemy at the moment and makes no secret of its expansionist designs on the Hellenic Republic. Close the borders, Mr Karamanli.
I think that may be a little harsh.. I mean, over an article? But i think Karamanlis need to take a stronger stance on the issue..
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:08 AM
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Wonder how much a page 4 half page adverstisment on Australia's most read national daily would have cost these fools.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:26 AM
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$2000 fee just to be in The Australian.
(The Australian Rates :: News Medianet)

Then depending where you want your add:
The Australian Rates :: News Medianet

So the skops paid around AU$2,500 / US$1,900 / €1.700


It's funny because during the Greece v Australia Football friendly, on the front page for FREE they ran Greek fans with the sign HELLAS MAKEDONIA full page

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