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Old 12-19-2005, 11:46 PM
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please post contemporary proofs for slavic migration. when i say contemporary, it means, proofs from the same era when souposed slavic migration has happened. contemporary doesnt mean:

writtings and quotes written centuries after souposed slavic migration

maps that have been drawned centuries after souposed slavic migration

if slavic migration really has happened, there must be some contemporary proofs. otherwise, how is posible that biggest migration in history (100 000 000 at least) passed unnoticed by writers of that era. simply imposible

also, u can post archeologic evidences from the souposed slavic pre-homeland. its imposible that 100 000 000 people leave no archeologic evidences after coming in balcans.

thank u very much
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:55 PM
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Literature from De Administrando Imperio is not good enough for you ?

Why not?

What about the literature from the Holy Roman Empire? not good enough for you either?...and the reason why the Byzantine Princess Theophanou married King Otto II in 950 A.D to forge an alliance forever between the two empires because of the Slavs?

I guess you didn't know about that one!

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Byzantine documents provide information about the siege of Thessaloniki by the Avaro-Slavs in 586: "If one would imagine that all Macedonians, Thracians and Achaeans gathered in Thessaloniki at that time, all of them together would not represent even a small part of that barbarian multitude which then besieged the town."

NOTE: Macedonians Thracians and Achaens are refering to the Greeks here and the seiging SLAVS are exactly what they are

http://www.unet.com.mk/mian/slavsin.htm


However, "traditions about the vanished ancient settlements were preserved. They were recorded, among other matters, by the ecclesiastical administration, where new bishoprics appeared as successors to the former ones."

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Default ‘Slavic migration and the early medieval Greek kastron (late 6th-early 10th c.): arch

‘Slavic migration and the early medieval Greek kastron (late 6th-early 10th c.): archaeology, toponymy and multiculturalism’. Worlds Collide: Multiculturalism in the Archaeological Record, ed. Constanze Witt (Austin: University of Texas Press, 2004), article in 18,406 words.

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Bosnian welcome, you have realy done the wrong thing with akritas eh?..not good my friend. If you want reconsiliation the 2 of you should start it and give us the example!
Stay kool and pay me a vizit in my forum. Thanks for carrying my message to HLM.
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Slavic Migration to Poland Archaelogical Finds of a slavic migration

Your people from Bitola even CONFIRM this lol

By the end of the 6th century, Slavic tribes, Dragovits being the most outstanding of their representatives, populate these areas. Later they retreat towards the south and the Solun Plain. Traces of their presence in these areas are considered to be the names of the river Dragor, and the villages: Dragarino, Dragozhani and Dragosh. Berezites permanently populated this area. They formed a settlement, which under certain historical and other conditions assumes the shape of a town. There are several hypotheses about where the beginning of that urban place had been: the place. Kriva Vodenica, the graveyard Bukovski or its present location? Whatever the case, the new settlement should have been very close to Heraclea, that is a kind of its extension. Of course, that was all done in the context of other historical, economic, religious, social and cultural conditions. It is known that big wars did not spare this region from changing of the ethnic map, realized through mixing and assimilation of people.

http://www.orbis.com.mk/Bitola_trhou..._centuries.htm

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WELCOME BACK NITKOV. you will be banned again very quickly unless you play nice....

and if you think that many migrated all at the same time you must be out of your mind.

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Default The Eurasian Heartland: A continental perspective on

Several Theories Exist: (non-contemporary but genetic)
Slavs as Aryans:
"Slavs as Aryans" theory

Finally, several new theories of the origin of Slavs were published, and found large numbers of followers, in the 1990s and 2000s, fueled by the rise of nationalism in Ukraine. Most of them attempt to establish a direct connection between the Slavs and Aryans. Some even claim that Slavs existed as an entity as early as the 7th to 5th millennium BC and were ancestors of the Sumerians. They say that the fabled Sumerian city of Aratta was located in Ukraine.
There is plenty of archaeological evidence for settlements in northern Ukraine and Poland as far back as 3rd millennium BC (Trypillian, Tishinets, Peshevor, Zarubinets cultures). People who lived there supported themselves principally by means of agriculture; some of them had mastered the use of metal by the 8th century BC. The absence of a written language leaves it open for debate whether those people were in any way related to modern Slavs.
Ironically, these nationalistic theories may hold some significance in the large scale. A recent Stanford study concluded that the peoples of Slavonic tongue are the most closely related populations to the proto-Indo-European stock, the group considered by 20th century race theorists to be the original Aryans. What this holds in store for future homeland debates, however, is unknown ([1]).



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The Eurasian Heartland: A continental perspective on
Y-chromosome diversity
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The nonrecombining portion of the human Y chromosome has
proven to be a valuable tool for the study of population history.
The maintenance of extended haplotypes characteristic of particular
geographic regions, despite extensive admixture, allows complex
demographic events to be deconstructed. In this study we
report the frequencies of 23 Y-chromosome biallelic polymorphism
haplotypes in 1,935 men from 49 Eurasian populations, with a
particular focus on Central Asia. These haplotypes reveal traces of
historical migrations, and provide an insight into the earliest
patterns of settlement of anatomically modern humans on the
Eurasian continent.

Graphic shows co-segregation and relation of Fyrom "Macedonians" with Ukrainians and Russians, this is interesting and quite solid evidence of the theory Slavs as Aryans.
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Contemporary Evidence

In the 7th century, the Frankish nobleman Samo, who supported the Slavs fighting their Avar rulers, became the ruler of the first known Slav state in Central Europe. Karantania in today's Austria and Slovenia was one Slavic state; very old also are the Principality of Nitra and the Moravian principality (see under Great Moravia). In this period, there existed central Slavic groups and states such as the Balaton Principality, but the subsequent expansion of the Magyars and Romanians, as well as the Germanisation of Austria, separated the northern and southern Slavs.
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During the VIIth ct. only periodical settling of the new waves of Slavic population is present. The very beginning of their migrations and colonization should be searched for in the period before Justinian age.
http://www.rastko.org.yu/arheologija...ssalonica.html

someone please find the age before Justinian.
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