Clean table.

[preston]

My main problem with FYROMinians is that they are deceitful and dishonest about ancient Macedonia while trying to establish a historical link between them and Alexander the Great. At the same, time their Diaspora, which is mainly ex-Communists, and Anti-Hellenes, sponsors propaganda against our country among the Anglo-Saxon societies. Taking in mind that our official position against them is based on the FACT that land claim is what they are about; I consider them Greece’s major enemy and future threat.
Never underestimate your enemy.

At the same time, I do not deny their cultural and geographical rights when it comes to Southern Fyrominians.
Greece and Greeks never had a racial issue with Slavs. We consider Serbians as our Christian brothers and although Bulgaria has been our enemy in the past, we have always shared more with them then others. Among all our neighbours, Slavic Nations of the south are probably the ones we get along better then any other!

FYROMinians are the exeption. Judging from what has happened in the past 15 years and how today we are facing the same problems with them as our forefathers we have no option and rather we have an obligation to fight them and solve the problem once and for all.

[preston]

the language used in SLAVMACEDONIAN churches is Old Slavic, it is the same language used by Serbs and Russians. The reason some of your diaspora chiurches is using more modern or english it is the same why Greek churches in Australia use English. Dimotiki has no comparison to Debulgarisation, Dimotiki is the language that was always used by the Greek populus, the officials in Greece caught up 30 years ago and realised the Katharevousa was only doubling the red tape so they got rid of it.
Now lets stop talking the same shit and lets just start clearing the table so we can beging building....
If you speak a Slavonic language
If you use a Slavic alphabet
If you have a religion that is represented in a Slavonic language
If half your country is part of Slavic lands
If all your customs (eg Day of Slava etc) and anchestry (Slavic Politheism) has a Slavic origin
If all your modern leaders are of Slavic background
...........
WHY M I TO BE INGORANT FOR VIEWING YOU AS A SLAV?

[preston]

the language used in Greek churches is Greek. The changes to modern Greek are minimum, it has remained the same since Byzantine, the changes that have happened is no diference then any other language that is alive and evolving. If I use other words is because I’m lazy, instead of saying Agorotehniki I say marketing, instead of saying anelkistiras I say asanser, instead of saying klini I say divani, instead of saying kori I say tsoupra …I use some english,french, turkish, slavic words but my language is Greek and has been for thousand and thousands of years.
Now lets stop talking the same shit and lets just start clearing the table so we can begin building....
If I speak the Hellenic language
If I use the Hellenic alphabet
If I have a religion that is practised in the Hellenic language
If all my country is part of Hellenic lands
If all my customs and ancestry (Hellenic Polytheism) has a Hellenic origin
If all my modern leaders are of Hellenic background
...........
WHY ARE YOU NOT INGORANT FOR VIEWING ME AS A TURK/AFRICAN/MONGOL/SLAV?

[preston]

Why is it that the whole Western world considers Hellenism the beginning and the foundation of it’s existence, and yet you, the Albanians and the Turks disagree?
Do you know the real truth while the rest of the planet is been fooled by us?

[Melbourne Patriot]

When you have a timid foreign policy, one which says we dont want changes in borders, one which publically states that Greece rejects its rights to first strike, when our political leaders run soft foreign policy and diplomacy then you get what we have got with the skops. If Greece wants to be taken seriously it needs to find a solution and if that means a military solution then so be it. In the end, the bulgars will get a piece, the serbs will get a piece, the albanians will get a piece, we will get a piece but more importantly the skops dream will be no more. If you go with the soft touch all the time you become the victim, Greece needs to show it has balls and actually do something.

[preston]

Originally Posted by Melbourne Patriot

When you have a timid foreign policy, one which says we dont want changes in borders, one which publically states that Greece rejects its rights to first strike, when our political leaders run soft foreign policy and diplomacy then you get what we have got with the skops. If Greece wants to be taken seriously it needs to find a solution and if that means a military solution then so be it. In the end, the bulgars will get a piece, the serbs will get a piece, the albanians will get a piece, we will get a piece but more importantly the skops dream will be no more. If you go with the soft touch all the time you become the victim, Greece needs to show it has balls and actually do something.

NO...it has taken us 40 years to achive a CDP of $26.000US, I'm not just about to piss it down the drain for a war with anyone...let's do what we have always done...let them attack and us to defend! And please ask your self this...Do you realy want a piece of them?...Do you realy want to inherit their financial, social, racial, etc missery?
Ask every Greek from Greece...NO MORE WARS...NONE UNLESS WE ARE ATTACKED....world recognision is their problem not ours. We know who they are, if the world is stupid enough to believe them...then they deserve them. We are Hellenes and we know how it works!

[MKDNIA]

Originally Posted by preston

the language used in SLAVMACEDONIAN churches is Old Slavic, it is the same language used by Serbs and Russians. The reason some of your diaspora chiurches is using more modern or english it is the same why Greek churches in Australia use English. Dimotiki has no comparison to Debulgarisation, Dimotiki is the language that was always used by the Greek populus, the officials in Greece caught up 30 years ago and realised the Katharevousa was only doubling the red tape so they got rid of it.
Now lets stop talking the same shit and lets just start clearing the table so we can beging building....
If you speak a Slavonic language
If you use a Slavic alphabet
If you have a religion that is represented in a Slavonic language
If half your country is part of Slavic lands
If all your customs (eg Day of Slava etc) and anchestry (Slavic Politheism) has a Slavic origin
If all your modern leaders are of Slavic background
...........
WHY M I TO BE INGORANT FOR VIEWING YOU AS A SLAV?

Ok, lets just say that Im nothing but a slav. Now answer a few questions for me because I am trying to understand your logic here.

Are all Dopia/makedonski/bulgarian speakers that live in greece hellenised dirty gypsy slavs as you might think of them??

YES OR NO?

[preston]

Originally Posted by MKDNIA

Ok, lets just say that Im nothing but a slav. Now answer a few questions for me because I am trying to understand your logic here.

Are all Dopia/makedonski/bulgarian speakers that live in greece hellenised dirty gypsy slavs as you might think of them??

YES OR NO?

Let’s not just say…Lets substanciate…you are not simply but a slav…you are a slav and in my book you are simply because you have abandoned Hellenism and have embraced your version of Ethnicity that simply serves the ancient and obvious interests of the Slavs...access to the sea and destraction of Hellenism.
The interpretation of Hellenized, dirty, gypsy Slavs is you brainwashed view of how I view my Dopious brothers and sisters and its as far from truth as the sun is from earth. My diopii brothers and sisters are Macedonians, more then the pontians, prosfiges and me for that matter, they are Makedones of the genuine type, same as all the non Slavic speakers inhabitants of the area that have not arrived in the past 100 years and believe in Hellenism…the closest I will get to a dirty, gypsy, Slav categorization is your brethren that has an interest to destroy me and a fearless passion to hate me.
Answering to your question …NO!

Originally Posted by MKDNIA

In regards to the forum users that have grandparents/parents that speak/undserstand the "idiom" are they filty rotten slavs??

YES OR NO?

Nice attempt…they do know how you view them…you view them as traitors, Puskari (hired guns), grekomans and filthy little ruts….and this view of yours about them is what have stoped you before and will stop you again....I view them as my brothers, my leaders, my best defence to the fight against you and the reason I liberated Macedonia the last time…once more with the help of God will take place in our lifetime and then truth will prevail once more.
Answering to your question …NO!

Originally Posted by MKDNIA

I am curious to what you may think of this becuase going by your argument, if I speak slav, i must be a slav, If i speak greek I must be greek?????
Am I correct.

In your futile dreams linking Dopious to your language and culture (which is evident and undeniable) will grand you the rights to Macedonia…keep dreaming. The language you speak is still as important to us as it was during your grandparents days…however today we are all more understanding then they were back then and language along will not make us spill our blood, we today embrace Slavophone Greeks as much as anone else. What will definitely bring misery upon all of us is what flag you swear under and what are your intention towards my flag…Dopii protect and always have (even against family members) the Galanolefki…you do not, so therefore….you are a Slav and they are Hellenes regardless to the language..it was your choice after all. Answering to your question …NO you are not correct!

[preston]

Originally Posted by MKDNIA

Ok, lets just say that Im nothing but a slav. Now answer a few questions for me because I am trying to understand your logic here.

Are all Dopia/makedonski/bulgarian speakers that live in greece hellenised dirty gypsy slavs as you might think of them??

YES OR NO?

I have answered above!

[preston]

Dopia...
....katerina Stanisi...generations have grown up with her songs...Best one is ..."Ime ego Makedonitisa, skliri kardia ke alitisa"

Dopia....
Dimitra Liani Papandreou's last wife...yeap you quest well...we like our Makedonitises so much we share the "royal" bed with them.

Dopios.....
Giorgos Lianis...Minister of Sports...famous for dancing Eleno Mome in Meliti

Dopios....
Lazaros...last winner of Greek Idol


just four that come to my mind right now...if you need more info as to who they are ...just ask...MY DOPII ARE ME!!!