Skopjans unleash their new 'Macedonian history' version.

[Ptolemy]

Macedonia was founded in 7,000 bc in southern Europe by Prince Makedon. He was the son of King Zevs. King Zevs had 2 sons. Prince Makedon and Prince Persej. Makedon occupied the balkan peninsula and called it Makedonia while Persej occupied much of the middle east and called it Persia. Macedonia since than had already founded its flag as well, the 16 ray sun, the star of the ancient Macedonian city Kutlesh.Although recent excavations on Sveta Gora, Gevgeliya, and in the city of Kochani have found ancient artifacts and evidence of very early civilization of the first people, that later on becamed the Macedonians dating back 270,000 years ago.Since then there have also been many kings such as Perdika,Karan,Ptolemy Lagovski, Cleopatra, Philip and known to most Alexander the great(Makedonski). Macedonia started an empire conquest, of the great Macedonian empire led by Alexander the great. They invaded and enslaved Greece after the famous battle of Choronnea, headed by the Macedonian furious general Cane. The empire shifted onto asia minor and from there Alexander set his sights on the persian empire. Strong,never defeted, powerful Persian army including allied soldiers from Greece lookin to get their revenge on the Macedonians. Greece had about 45,000 men on the persian allied side. They also had Albanians, Armenians, and people of all Persia joining in on the fight to push back Alexander to Macedonia. But Alexander a tecnichaner was able to defeat everyone workin diffrent war techniques to win all and ultimatly win the persian empire with only 35,000 Macedonian army personel. Right here the Macedonians showed a great deal of courage, bravery, loyalty, and patriotism to their king and kingdom. At was tested at its full. From here they went down to Egypt and Lybia and formed the great city of Alexandria. From there all the way to Bactria and Western India. Fighting several diffrent army's along the ways as well. But a revolt happend in the Macedonian army and they all set forward to come back to there native Macedonia. Along the way Alexander died of yet still unclear cause. And the empire and once poweful Macedonia will only live in history books. Ended in 323 bc in June. Even after that Macedonia was still a kingdom on the balkans headed by the new king and one of Alexanders generals Parmenion. Around 150 bc or so Macedonia was invaded by the Roman empire but managed to defeat it after a short stay in Macedonia. Around the time of Christ, Macedonia was the first to adopt the Christian orthodox religion and officialy wrote its alphabet at the same time. After that new empire would be formed around the 8th century AD by Justinjan the second of Skopje Macedonia. All of this great glory would come to an end around 1389 when Ottoman empire invaded Macedonia and its neighboring countries on the balkans. Since than Macedonia had several rebelions againts the turks but all failed. One was the famous Kresna uprising in the Pirin Part of Macedonia headed by Dimitar Berovski. And even before that one there was another in the 1600's headed by Georgi Vorteh in the famous Mariovo uprising. All failed. Until 1903 August 2. Two new republics in Macedonia, (Smilevo and Krushevo) a komiti stronghold, were freed from the ottoman turks. Certianly a big bravery and win for the Macedonian komiti (rebels) defeating several turkish battalions along the Bigla mountains in the Smilevo republic. Freedom will not be free forever on the 12th of August a Turkish general by the name of Bactiar Pasha comes from the army garrison of Prishtina. Prishtina located in Kosovo Serbia. He comes just on the outskirts of Krushevo and has his artillary shelling house to house before regular Turkish army can move in and recapture. Brave Macedonians went on to fight on what was the bloodiest fight of all, headed by Pitu Guli but were all killed in action by the menacing vengful ottomans. While the Smilevo republic was able to hold on for just a few more days free,it becamed reoccupied again on the 26th day. Heavy battles and standoff's between the Turkish army and the Macedonian komiti were fought around Smilevo Republic and the village of Sloeshtica with no end, the komiti were forced to back down and preserve their strength and equipment to live to fight another day. And such were the times around 1903-1906 would be very hard for every Macedonian thatl lived and fought for autonomous Macedonia. A great number of komiti were killed by Turks and also by other political army bands such as albanian (Gegi) allied soldiers, bulgarian, and even greek who just simply did not want to let Macedonia be free and fight for autonomy. All comes to an end after the Macedonian commander in chief, and the president of VMRO the internal Macedonian revolutionary organization Dame Gruev, gets killed at the village of Rusinovo surrounded by ottoman Turks. After that Macedonia's action halts, and it remains only a territory until 1913 when it is devided by the neighboring countries, and who also defeted the once powerful Ottoman empire. Macedonia is devided into 3 parts Vardar, Pirin, Egey. Vardar is today's Macedonia, Pirin is like another big Macedonian part still held by Bulgaria, and the other Greece. This one is the historical part and a huge chunk of Macedonian land still held by a foreign country to the south, Greece. President Tito comes on in 1944 recognizes Macedonia as a country and the partizans were able to get some of it back. And after the war, Macedonia joins the Yugoslav republics. It remains until 1991 when it declared a peaceful withdrawl from the YU because of the war. And now its independent.

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A friend informed me about this new skopjan...historical approach and thought to share the laugh with you. I thought previously these skopjan retards used the name 'Ptolemy Lagov' for my namesake. Seems it was...too Bulgarian for their likes and he was renamed again into 'Ptolemy Lagovski'.

At least these retards are doing their best to amuse the rest of the world.

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Really, as a species, will we survive with such idiots? I can't believe such fools procreate.

[akritas]

Professor Markos

Professor Markos has found proof that philosophy comes from MACEDONIA. That Aristotel and many others were not athenians but MACEDONIANS.

The old athenians had no alphabet but took it from the fenicians. Their theatres and tragic art, even that is not athenian. Their grand theatres where 3 000-8 000 persons could be seated, they could not build themselves. Only a well developed country as MACEDONIA with its emperor dynasty could build these grand "arenas".

From three MACEDONIAN books - MAKEVEJ - we know that MACEDONIA is a biblical land but nowhere is "Greece" mentioned or anything about any "greek philosophers". MACEDONIAN philosophers worked for the MACEDONIAN royal family. They worked in the museum and library of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA, in MACEDONIAN towns in MACEDONIA and in the provinces. There were no athenians inside the MACEDONIAN royal family but only MACEDONIANS. Some philosophers did not consider the athenians as humans. The athenians had no culture, no philosophy, nothing. They were like wild animals, the MACEDONIANS built, the athenians stole or destroyed it

We know, without any doubt, that Aristotel was MACEDONIAN. The athenians have tried to convince everybody that Aristotel was athenian, that he was an athenian philosopher and that Platon was his teacher. Some believe these fairy-tales but most people know the truth. After Aristotel's reports and his will, we know that Platon never was his teacher. The philosophy of Aristotel and the philosophy of Platon had no similarities, non what so ever. Aristotel was extremely logical and won over the philosophy of Platon, which he rejected. have Aristotel and Platon ever meet? no, never! Aristotel went around in the world and meet other philosophers. He stayed for 12 years with Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA to be his and the MACEDONIAN nobility's teacher.

The MACEDONIAN philosophers were threatened by the athenians. Foreign philosophers that came to Athens had to pay a certain sum. They who could not pay were either thrown out by the athenians, threatened by death or punished by death.

Aristotel built a museum. This museum was destroyed by the athenians and the destroyed the faces of the statues.

Treofat took over the school of Aristotel, who had over 2 000 pupils. The work of Aristotel passed on from his pupils to the whole dominion of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA. All his pupils gathered in Aleksandria with all material.

There were culture centre for MACEDONIAN teaching and philosophy. Museum filled with MACEDONIAN busts. Later the Romans took these busts and moved them to Rome.

Aristotel was the father of philosophy. He gave philosophy to the whole world. Without Aristotel, Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA could never have seized power in the whole world. Many kings in MACEDONIAN towns were philosophers. Many philosophers were on diplomatic missions and administered the MACEDONIAN provinces.

Demokrit (460 BC - 357 BC) had in Abdera his own school and his followers. Demokrit went round and meet philosophers that were hunted by the athenians (most philosophers were murdered by the athenians). Demokrit lived for over 100 year. Only he can be considered as an equal with Aristotel, no one else came in their proximity. Perhaps Aristotel also would have lived for 100 years if the athenians had not killed him.

Platon wanted to burn all documents by Demokrit. Together with the athenians he tried to destroy the work of all MACEDONIAN philosophers, their material. But they failed.

Protagora, a great MACEDONIAN philosopher, was murdered in Athens.

The documents by Aristotel and his writing about philosophy in ½ million lines, he gave to the world so they would keep and protect the documents. In his writings you can read about the MACEDONIAN science and philosophy. There you can read about the MACEDONIAN kings and about the MACEDONIAN history.

The athenians stole the philosophy of the MACEDONIANS, the science, mythology, medicine and so on. They stole the MACEDONIANS writers of dramas. They have stolen Aristotel, Demokrit, Hipokrat and Pitagora. Now we also know that Evropid was MACEDONIAN. About Evropid, Aristotel has said, that he was the most tragic poet. Evropid used different names when he wrote so that he would not be murdered by the athenians. The athenians have conquered the MACEDONIAN literature. In Athens there is nothing of athenian origin, at least of all theatres and literature. Evropid, Eksil and Aristofan, MACEDONIANS, foreigners, that worked in Athens, were thrown out by the athenians.

The medicine comes originally from MACEDONIA. Hipokrat (460 BC - 370 BC) is called the father of medicine. the word recipe (re ept) comes from Hipokrat.

The science and medicine were tied together by Hipokrat. The whole world knows about Hipokrat but are silent. The son of Hipokrat, Tesal, was Aleksandar Makedonski the Great's personal Doctor. The athenians tried to make Hipokrat into the father of athenian medicine!! That the root to Europe's science and culture comes from MACEDONIA you know with no doubt, the philosophy of Aristotel, the medicine of Hipokrat and so on.

In Visentia the MACEDONIAN writing was renewed. The MACEDONIAN writing came to Russia where they still today speak ancient MACEDONIAN in church.

The medicine, that first had been written in MACEDONIAN, was not changed into Latin until around 1200, in Spain.

In 168 BC, the Romans defeated the MACEDONIANS and captured 30 of King Persej's nearest men. The Romans stole all the gold and richness from the MACEDONIAN Dynasty. From the MACEDONIAN culture and material richness the Romans built a city that would exist for ever.

The MACEDONIAN history is in Rome, but a great deal is destroyed. They stole the MACEDONIAN science, history, the MACEDONIAN libraries and archives. They took them to Emilio Paul in Rome. After his death it was said that the MACEDONIAN writings had disappeared!

Professor Markos has found a lot of information about MACEDONIA. With this information she will write a book about the true history of MACEDONIA and of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great, who was MACEDONIAN not "Greek". All the enlightened have known about the true history of MACEDONIA for a long time but now there are strong evidence that confirms that.

There are "some" that do not like what Professor Markos writes. "They" mean that it can ruin their "friendship" with the Athenians.

I also would like to mention another thing that Professor Markos has written.
It should not be called Hellenism but MACEDONISM!

Mr Vasil Iljov, Dipl. engineer and architect, has found some interesting facts about MACEDONIA and MACEDONIAN history.

There are concrete evidence that Kiril and Metodij, the MACEDONIAN Solun brothers, had knowledge about the ancient MACEDONIAN writing. There are also evidence that the MACEDONIAN writing is from 6-7 000 years BC. On ceramic stamps from 6 000 years BC, the writing is in MACEDONIAN.

When Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA only was 16 years old, he laid the ground to the town of Aleksandria. Under his lifetime he built 100 towns, 80 of these wore the name, Aleksandria. Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA built together with MACEDONIAN architects these towns and Aleksandria in today's Egypt. The architecture is MACEDONIAN, not egyptian or athenian.

The sun is the oldest MACEDONIAN symbol on MACEDONIAN territory.

In the village of Ocicani in the mountains of Crna Loma, also called Conceva, the archaeologist Milos Bilbija found old symbols, from 6-7 000 BC, of the sun with 16 beams on ceramic stamps.They also found a text in ancient MACEDONIAN where it said SL S BO SM (SAL SO BOGA SUM).

The Symbol of the Sun with 16 beams, is the symbol of the MACEDONIAN dynasty. You can find this symbol in many countries that ones belonged to Great MACEDONIA

This symbol has been found in today's Syria, Turkey, MACEDONIA and many other places. it has also been found in Kutles and Barbes belonging to the ancient MACEDONIA.

The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

[Flipper]

Hahahaha, what a riddiculus thing

[edessa]

omg...

[Spartan]

I love the line 'headed by the Macedonian furious general Cane'
So what happened to Abel/Able.

And who is this guy? Ptolemy Lagovski

And I love how the Persians are now part of the Ancient Greek cosomogony!


Well at least they finally admit to Tito creating their state!
"President Tito comes on in 1944 recognizes Macedonia"


That is one of the best laughs I have had in a long time!

[greekmakedonia]

This article is so funny. Actually no I will use a better word...............Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!.

[preston]

Is this Angelina Markos?...the "retired" Profesor of unknown University of Skopjie?...Sha has one of the VIP guests in Stefovs parties in Canada recently...at the celebration of their Bulgarian history!! can anyone find out which University used to employ her?

[Orphic_Hymn]

Interview with Fanica Veljanovska, Anthropologist in Museum of Macedonia – We Reconstructed Common People, not Warriors and Princesses


(Vreme, 22.12.2004) - Anthropologist Fanica Veljanovska is part of the large team that prepared the first exhibition of reconstructed images in Macedonia, done on the basis of skeleton remains found at Macedonian archeological sites. Veljanovska researched 4,000 skeletons and revived 13 images for the exhibition, which represents a crown of her 20-year work.

Whose was the initiative for this unusual exhibition?

Mine. I had a wish for other people to see how our ancestors looked like, and not only to see sculls. The skeletons have numerous characteristics, which can help in reconstructing the face and the entire figure, but in order for the common people to see it, one must present it in a three-dimensional manner. Therefore, we entered into this complex project, which is realized by a number of artists, sculptors, art historians etc. Results from several disciplines, different scientific knowledge and numerous art skills have been used during the process. Skeleton remains from archaeological sites dating from the Neolith until the Middle Age (2000 years BC – 15th century AD) have been used. Typical representatives from certain period have been selected. Three-dimensional sculptures were created at the sculls, with the application of clay, until their definite image. The entire process is put at a documentary film, which will be projected at today’s exhibition.

You say typical representatives.
Does that mean that there are general characteristics of people in certain periods?

Yes, that is the idea. A similar, homogenous population lives in certain periods. On the other had, there had been representatives of a new population besides the autochthonous one in other periods, which differ. Therefore, we selected types that represent both the prior and the latter situation.


The Balkan population is said to be beautiful due to the strong mix of cultures and peoples. Do you agree?

No. This knowledge comes as a result of the current degree of appearance. This does not mean that if larger number of skeletons were researched in 10 years from now, you would get the same results. It seems that there was no mixing of peoples during long periods, especially the prehistoric ones. To be more exact, there were no mergers from the Bronze Age until the beginning of the new era. The first evidence of this comes from Roman times, while the coming of Slavs dates from the Middle Age.


Does this mean that this thesis, which has become historically problematic lately, can be anthropologically proved?

Yes.

What is the extent of authenticity in the reconstructed images?

That can never be proved, because there are no photographs, sculptures or portraits of people from that time. Furthermore, we have selected representatives of the common people, and not princesses or warriors. The idea was to generally present the image and emphasize the artistic part, but at the same time not to make wax figures or funeral masks, but common, everyday images.

Who is the beauty of the exhibition?

There isn’t one, because they are all equally beautiful. However, the exhibition’s value is not in the aesthetic moment, but its documentary character, because reconstruction of the clothes and jewelry from the necropolises has also been made.

So to get it straight.
She made alleged representations of "their" ancestors, representations of both autochthonous and "new comers", which future research will probably not agree with and of course the "authenticity" of the conveniently selected representations (13 OUT OF 4000!!!) can not be proven..

One has to wonder why someone that depicted her history through her 1994 publication titled "An Attempt at Anthropological Definition of the Paeonians" would now change her views..

[Morphesau]

Are they claiming Adam & Eve? too As in Adamski & Evedeski???

Vlakies...