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Old 08-07-2008, 11:03 AM
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Jordan posted some days ago an article of the London times from 1901 with the title <The Macedonian agitator> reffering to Boris Sarafov and his claims about his <Macedonian> ethnicity.I made a small research and i found more articles about Sarafovs attitude,<Macedonian> agitations and agitators.At first,Jordan's article was dated from 1901.Two years later,after his return in Sofia,it seems that Sarafov forgot his <Macedonian> ethnicity:



Read what happened when Sarafov was arrested,what appeals placarded VMRO in Sofia.The Times,14-4-1901:


<The times> from 7-3-1901 about the <Macedonian agitation>.Notice the mention of <Macedonians of both the Slavic nations>,Bulgarians and Serbians of course.There are also mentioned Albanian and Greeks,but no ethnic <Macedonians>.In the bottom we can read about a known Bulgarian proffesor of the Bulgarian gymnasium in Monastir,who pretended to be a Russian.I'm sure he became later a pure <Makedonski>.



Sarafov,the <Macedonian> leader of the Bulgarian insurgents


The Bulgarian reservists consisted of 20.000 <Macedonians>


More Macedonian agitations,by Bulgarian bands,The Times,17-2-1901:


Again the Macedonian agitation is connected to Bulgarians and Bulgaria.The Times,24-3-1901:



Our old <Macedonian> friend Sandansky.The Times,29-12-1901


Again Sandansky,in the Balkan wars this time,figthing for majka Bulgaria:




Enough with these <Macedonians>,let's read about some other ethnicities of Macedonia :







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How many times did you read Scopians claiming that Greece <occupies Aegean Macedonia> ?Off course it's impossible for an army to occupy a land inhabited by its own kin.The Macedonians welcomed in 1912-13 their brothers and liberators,the Greek army,waving Greek flags and singing the Greek national anthem.What kind of occupation is that,when the local inhabitants in many cases support and fight along the <invading> army,in order to...occupy their own land?This is exactly what happened in Macedonia during the Balkan wars,but the Scopians <ignore> it.It's good to remind them what the foreign newspaper wrote:

N.Y Times 3-11-1912:The Greek inhabitants of Macedonian cities like Niaousta(Naousa) expelled the Turkish authorities and invited the Greek army to occupy their city.(That's why the Scopians speak about occupation,i understand now!)



N.Y Times 4-11-1912:6.000 armed Greek peasants from Macedonia helping the Greek army to...occupy Macedonia:



N.Y Times 19-11-1912:The inhabitants were wild of joy when the Greek army hoisted Greek flags over their villages:



Read how Salonika was occupied by the Greek army.The Times,14-11-1912:

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A gift to our Kozanites moto members,The Times from 27-10-1912:



Meanwhile in Scopje our friends expressed their Serbomanski feelings:



I was always sure that Scopians were rather Serbomanski than Bugari

And don't forget the Macedonian rising.The Times,7-9-1903:







Macedonian rising is the title of the article,but we can't find nowhere mentioned any ethnic <Macedonians> who rose up.Only Bulgarians,Greeks and Serbians.What means that?
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:41 PM
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The Times,9 April 1949.Notice in the bottom of the article the mention of the the alliance of the Greek Communist Party and the Slavomacedonians of SNOF who tried to sever Greek Macedonia from Greece:





You will love this article of The Times,17 May 1958.<Greek atmosphere in Yougaslavian Macedonia>!


The Times,6 August 1915.Read what sait Lord Crewe in the House of Lords about the Ilinden uprise:
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This article of <The Times> from 13-3-1925 is very important because it abolishes all the Scopian claims about the Abecedar and its alleged <Macedonian> features.Greece never recognized the existence of any <Macedonian> minority.The belief that Greece printed in 1925 a book for her <Macedonian minority> is obviously a Scopian illusion,since all the objective sources of that era agree that Greece had a dispute with Bulgaria about the Slavophone inhabitants of Macedonia in order to recognize them as Bulgarian minority and grant them several rights as education in the Bulgarian language.The conclusion that Greece had a dispute with Bulgaria in order to recognize the Slavophones as...<Macedonian> minority is absolutely absurd,typical of the Scopian mentality.
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The diachronic features of the Scopian irredentism and the attempt of the severance of Greek Macedonia and its attachment to Titomacedonia.The <innocent Macedonians> who fled from Greece fought for this and now Gruevski requests from Greece compensations for their <services>









Notice in these two last articles how the clash between Tito and cominform effects the atitude of the Balkan communists regarding the <Macedonian issue>.The first article is from 1945,when all the Balkan communist states expressed their solidarity to Tito making shameless anti-Greek propaganda.Even the Romanians,well known Nazi collaborators denominated Greece as <miniature Hitlerite Germany> and accused her for the oppressing of the <Macedonians> in...Thrace!!!But 4 years later,Tito blames the Greek communists,due to his secession from cominform.



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Many of the articles were compiled into my latest Youtube clip about NYT and the Ilinden . Many thanks to Ptolemy, Kostas68 and others for their research work.


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Many of the articles were compiled into my latest Youtube clip about NYT and the Ilinden . Many thanks to Ptolemy, Kostas68 and others for their research work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKrWwcABMFI
Well done,Wasilj!
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Some interesting articles from The Times about the Serbo-Bulgarian relations of the interwar period and the WW2 time regarding the <Macedonian> issue.A clear evidence of the Bulgarian ethnicity of the <Macedonians> in Yougoslavia.


This one shows clearly the British view of that time about the existence of the <Macedonian> nation:Such ethnicity doesn't exist.

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Old 09-11-2008, 10:29 AM
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London Times 7 March 1944

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A country with a separate Macedonian nationality is a completely Ficticious conception which has been fostered by the Bulgarian Komitajis. There is no such thing as a Macedonian
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