Foreign newspapers of 19th/20th c. about Macedonia

[Truth Bearer]

And Piperkata still denies his Bulgarian heritage shame on him really!!!

[Jordan Piperkata]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

And Piperkata still denies his Bulgarian heritage shame on him really!!!

Please explaine what the term Macedonians means in the context "Macedonians and Bulgarians" and "Greeks, Macedonians and Bulgarians".

This is from the wording of the articles I have posted.

[Jordan Piperkata]

Originally Posted by Victor

History Of The BAlkans
BArbara Jelavich
page 91
THis is what every SANE person believes so the burden of proof is CLEARLY on the fyromanians to CLEARLY PROVE that any of these articles CLEARLY and SPECIFICALLY define Macedonian as a seperate ethnicity.
BY the way,only an idiot couldnt see that Macedonian meant Greek in pepperheads first 2 articles..THird one too since Greece and TUrkey were at war in 1897 and there are no fyromanians from Grevena.Very likely the fourth one as well.

So you take the words of a most likely Serbian auhtor as verbatim?

Who inhabited Grevena in tjose days Victor?

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Jordan Piperkata

Please explaine what the term Macedonians means in the context "Macedonians and Bulgarians" and "Greeks, Macedonians and Bulgarians".

This is from the wording of the articles I have posted.

Yes, some of you folks considered yourselves "Macedonians" since back then. The statistics of the Ellis Island records show a 16% of the people from your current lands considering themselves as such. Nevertheless, the other 84% did NOT consider itself as "Macedonian" in an ethnic sense.

I think that your propaganda machine worked quite well during the 20th century, but you shall evidently fall back during the 21st century. If Bulgaria hands 60.000 passports every year, well, there shall none of you left in 20 years...

[Jordan Piperkata]

Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis

Yes, some of you folks considered yourselves "Macedonians" since back then. The statistics of the Ellis Island records show a 16% of the people from your current lands considering themselves as such. Nevertheless, the other 84% did NOT consider itself as "Macedonian" in an ethnic sense.

I think that your propaganda machine worked quite well during the 20th century, but you shall evidently fall back during the 21st century. If Bulgaria hands 60.000 passports every year, well, there shall none of you left in 20 years...

Petros, so how do you know that I am not a descendant of those 16% Macedonians at Ellis Island?

As a side not, I would like to see the statistical document stating the above mentioned figure of 16% Macedonians at Ellis Island, please provide a source.

As another side not, I still would like to hear what the term of Macedonians means in the context of "Macedonians and Bulgarians" and "Greeks, Macedonians and Bulgarians" from the articles I posted.

[Truth Bearer]

Yes but how is it that those 16% had slavic Bulgarian names??

[Truth Bearer]

Originally Posted by Jordan Piperkata

Please explaine what the term Macedonians means in the context "Macedonians and Bulgarians" and "Greeks, Macedonians and Bulgarians".

This is from the wording of the articles I have posted.

Because you sad tragic person is that the paper quoted the 2 natioanilities being Bulgarian and Greek and the 3rd being a province in the Ottoman Empire they defined it as such.Why is it so hard for you to understand?The region of Macedonia was hot topic back then due to the internal strife and bloodletting.

[Jordan Piperkata]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Yes but how is it that those 16% had slavic Bulgarian names??

Is that also statistically proven? If so provide the adequate document proving this.

You are aware that approx. 10% of the population in Greece has a Jewish name, what are they?

[Truth Bearer]

What do you define as Jewish??Why don't you give us an example sir?

[Jordan Piperkata]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Because you sad tragic person is that the paper quoted the 2 natioanilities being Bulgarian and Greek and the 3rd being a province in the Ottoman Empire they defined it as such.Why is it so hard for you to understand?The region of Macedonia was hot topic back then due to the internal strife and bloodletting.

But Sir, they are not seperated in any form, so how do you know this for a fact? So Greeks and Bulgarians are a nationallity and Macedonians are a provincial designation, correct?

I may add that there was not any form of province in Turkey in Europe called Macedonia, you are aware of this? The administrative entities were rather called Vilayets, the Vilayets of Kosova, Manastir and Selanik.

So please explanie what Macedonians means in this context.