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Old 12-08-2005, 04:47 PM
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Many times we hear the Slavs of the FYROM their argyments as about the population in the Hellenic Macedonia.

Mapping Migration is constructing a Geographical Information System (GIS) and web-site focussing on the forced migration of people from 1880 to the present day in the geographical region of Macedonia now known as the district of Kastoria, Greece.
The partners are the Refugee Studies Centre, University of Oxford, Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London and The Research Centre for Macedonian History and Documentation, Thessaloniki. The content of the web site is drawn from a collection of material consisting of historical documents, photographs (both contemporary and historical), postcards, short explanatory texts, demographic metadata in databases concerning about one hundred and twenty communities and multimedia presentations of places, historical events and cultural phenomena. The Project focuses on a section of the geography region of Macedonia, more precisely the district of Kastoria, part of the Monastir Vilayet during the Ottoman empire, named prefecture of Kastoria and Florina when incorporated within the Greek state (1913), then becoming district of Kastoria following the end of the Second World War and the Greek Civil War (1948).

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Old 12-22-2006, 03:48 AM
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the link for this site has changed.nice site:

Mapping Migration in Kastoria, Macedonia | Bibliography
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Very interesting that in 1900 many of the villages were majority Greek, BUT 5 years later after the Bulgarian Struggle most of the villages became 100% Bulgarian?!

I wonder how a majority of a population can just dissapear in five years?

1)They were exterminated.
2)They were exiled/forced to leave.
3)The Bulgarian records just recorded everyone as Bulgarian.
4)The Exarchate forced conversion, so everyone "became" Bulgarian.

I am leaning towards 3 & 4!
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Mapping Migration is constructing a Geographical Information System (GIS) and web-site focussing on the forced migration of people from 1880 to the present day in the geographical region of Macedonia now known as the district of Kastoria, Greece.

The partners are the Refugee Studies Centre, University of Oxford, Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London and The Research Centre for Macedonian History and Documentation, Thessaloniki.


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A really good site with highly interesting statistics for the general region of Kastoria, noted by village
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Modern_Name Melas
hotlink melas.htm
Old_Name Statista
Number 32034
Greeks1900 0
Bulgarians1900 600
Turks1900 0
Vlachs1900 0
Total_Pop_1900 600
Greeks1905 600
Bulgarians1905 0
Turks1905 0
Vlacks1905 0
Total_pop_1905 600

Change_1900_1905 0
Women1913 300
Men1913 309
Total1913 609
Change_1905_1913 9
Men1920 239
Women1920 311
Total1920 550
Change_1913_1920 -59
Men1928 257
Women1928 307

Total1928 564
Change_1920_1928 14
Women1940 383
Men1940 313
Total1940 696
Change_1928_1940 45
Totalpop1951 329
Change_1940_1951 -367
TotalPop1961 303
Change_1951_1961 -26
TotalPop1971 187
Change_1961_1971 -116
TotalPop1981 167
Change_1971_1981 -20
TotalPop1991 147
Change_1981_1991 -20
Total_Greek_Refugees1928 0
Bulgarian_emigrants_1912_1913 0
Bulgarian_emigrants_1914_1919 9
Bulgarian_emigrant_Neuilly_1919 3

Political_Violence_Deaths 1
Destroyed_Villages 0
Abducted_Children_Civil_War 135
Emig_post1949_USA_etc 13
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Modern_Name Halara
hotlink halara.htm
Old_Name Posdivista
Number 32112
Greeks1900 0
Bulgarians1900 700
Turks1900 0
Vlachs1900 0
Total_Pop_1900 700
Greeks1905 400
Bulgarians1905 250
Turks1905 0
Vlacks1905 0
Total_pop_1905 650

Change_1900_1905 -50
Women1913 405
Men1913 563
Total1913 968
Change_1905_1913 318
Men1920 303
Women1920 407
Total1920 710
Change_1913_1920 -258
Men1928 281
Women1928 395

Total1928 676
Change_1920_1928 -34
Women1940 409
Men1940 329
Total1940 738
Change_1928_1940 292
Totalpop1951 450
Change_1940_1951 -288
TotalPop1961 229
Change_1951_1961 -221
TotalPop1971 184
Change_1961_1971 -45
TotalPop1981 189
Change_1971_1981 5
TotalPop1991 152
Change_1981_1991 -37
Total_Greek_Refugees1928 0
Bulgarian_emigrants_1912_1913 0
Bulgarian_emigrants_1914_1919 14
Bulgarian_emigrant_Neuilly_1919 2

Political_Violence_Deaths 2
Destroyed_Villages 999
Abducted_Children_Civil_War 166
Emig_post1949_USA_etc 11
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I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters.
The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus.

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:23 AM
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Modern_Name Makrohori
hotlink makrohori.htm
Old_Name Konomplati
Number 32017
Greeks1900 0
Bulgarians1900 1100
Turks1900 0
Vlachs1900 0
Total_Pop_1900 1100
Greeks1905 200
Bulgarians1905 0
Turks1905 0
Vlacks1905 0
Total_pop_1905 200

Change_1900_1905 -900
Women1913 622
Men1913 580
Total1913 1202
Change_1905_1913 1002
Men1920 439
Women1920 502
Total1920 1031
Change_1913_1920 -171
Men1928 322
Women1928 480

Total1928 802
Change_1920_1928 -229
Women1940 515
Men1940 431
Total1940 946
Change_1928_1940 400
Totalpop1951 438
Change_1940_1951 -508
TotalPop1961 444
Change_1951_1961 6
TotalPop1971 341
Change_1961_1971 -103
TotalPop1981 300
Change_1971_1981 -41
TotalPop1991 244
Change_1981_1991 -56
Total_Greek_Refugees1928 18
Bulgarian_emigrants_1912_1913 0
Bulgarian_emigrants_1914_1919 32
Bulgarian_emigrant_Neuilly_1919 36

Political_Violence_Deaths 13
Destroyed_Villages 0
Abducted_Children_Civil_War 219
Emig_post1949_USA_etc 15
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:25 AM
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No need to post the statistics for every single village since you all obviously get the point... there is NO TRACE of our beloved neighbours.. well that is unless they'll admit that they titled themselves BULGARIANS..
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I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters.
The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus.

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They were not included in the count because they were autochthonous
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My personal favourite is the village of Oksies-Oksia (no inhabitants now)
it used to be called Voulgaroblatsi !!!
Is there a site for the Kozani area?? the village of Zouzouli is on this one but my dads village is 3 villages to the east but in nomos Kozanis.
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