The most ancient tribe in Greece and the origins of the Greek Language

[Flipper]

So, I've been studying alot on the Sarakatsans lately. Athropologists and linguists have been very interested in their origins. The map starts to clear so they seem to be connected to the tribes of Agrafa (Maybe the Aperandoi and Agraeoi tribes) and are possibly the first natives of Greece. They speak an Archaic dialect that seems more primitive than the ones available from ancient inscriptions.

Scientists like Hoeg, Poulianos and Chatzimichali believe their language is the beginning of what we call the language of the Hellenes.

I'll get back with more when I've collected and sorted all info.

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Great start Flipper. This material is very interesting and I am certain I am not the only one who wants to learn more.

[akritas]

I have read the Poulianos and the work of Sarakatsani

SARAKATSANI - THE MOST ANCIENT PEOPLE OF EUROPE

Either accept and respect the paleanthropology , though I am very sceptical as about to say that the specific group be able to name as the "more" ancient Europeans.

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Baavo Megale. All of you.

[Flipper]

Originally Posted by akritas

I have read the Poulianos and the work of Sarakatsani

SARAKATSANI - THE MOST ANCIENT PEOPLE OF EUROPE

Either accept and respect the paleanthropology , though I am very sceptical as about to say that the specific group be able to name as the "more" ancient Europeans.

Yeah me too. The first europeans were Neadartals, not even homo-sapiens,not even a culture. The only reason Poulianos characterizes them "most" ancient is because they have the most close characteristics to the man of Petralona, compared with any other indoeuropean population.

The truth is that Poulianos has the whole Russian athropology school on his side. Considering that they are: 1) The pioneers of paleanthropology, 2) the most "panslavism" fanatics, they seem to respect him at a very high level. Don't forget that Poulianos studied in the former USSR together with the giants of this science.

However, their language is very primitive and that is the most interesting about them. I'm considering getting in touch with their online community and get information about it.

[Leonatos]

I have read that the Sarakatsani were nomads,not semi-nomads like the vlachs.
Unlike the vlachs,the Sarakatsani didn't have a village.They lived in huts and they went from one place to another.
It is said that certain DNA tests have shown that they are an indigenous population in Greece since the prehistoric time.

[akritas]

if amyone want to learn more as the Sarakatsaneous just visit theirs web side

http://www.sarakatsanos.gr/

[Flipper]

This one is nice as well

http://www.sarakatsanos.org/

[Slayer]

That was a good read, I never knew about this tribe of Greeks and Poulianos seems to make some intersting findings not only on the Sarakatsani but on the greek people as well. I found some intersting maps on a romanian site, i can't vouch for their authenticity or accuracy but are still interesting.






http://www.eliznik.org.uk/RomaniaHis...atsani-map.htm

http://www.eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope.../Greek-Sax.htm

http://www.eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope...ek-Kiepert.htm