Maps of Albania's Origin

[Minimalistix]

look at the top right

[Vergian Pride]

Yes, it is true that they was originally from that region, but thier migration took place and moved to the region of Illyria and intermixed with the people there.

[Ervald]

word ALBAN

"Scotland ...The old name for this land was Alba, or Albainn, then 'Scotia' and the Romans called it 'Caledonia'. The Picts originally lived in what is now Scotland. ....."

The word Alba is of celtic origin, later adopted by Latin so its celto-latin word.

Etymology
from Latin albus, "white"

This is a provisional list of known Illyrian tribes.

Abri
Albanoi
Amantini
Andizetes
Arbanitai (Arbanios)
Ardiaei (possible synonyme: Vardaei)
Ardiani
Arrianes
Atitani (Atintanes)
Autariatae (Autariates)
Azali
Breuci
Briges
Bylliones
Carni (Illyrian appartenance uncertain)
Catari
Celegeri
Ceraunii
Chelidones
Colapiani (Colapani)
Cornacates
Daesitiates
Dalmatae (Delmatoi)
Daorsoi (possible synonyme: Daversi)
Dardani
Dassaretae (Dassarstae, Dassarenses, Dasaretae)
Daunii (in Southern Italy)
Daversi (possible synonyme: Daorsoi)
Deraemestae (Deramisti)
Deuri
Dindari
Ditiones
Docleatae
Enchelaeae (Enchelleae)
Enotri (in Southern Italy)
Glintidiones
Grabaei
Histri (Illyrian appartenance uncertain)
Iapydes (Japodes)
Iasi (Jasi)
Illyrioi
Labeatae (Labeates)
Lopsi
Maezaei
Messapii (in Southern Italy)
Meslcumani
Narensii
Ortoplini
Oseriates (Osseriates)
Pannoni
Parentini
Parthini
Penestae (Perestae)
Peucetii (in Southern Italy)
Pirustae (Pipustae)
Plearaei
Sardeates (Sardeati)
Scirtari
Scirtones
Seleitani
Triballi (Illyrian appartenance uncertain)
Taulanti (Taulani)
Vardaei (possible synonyme: Ardiaei)

[Orphic_Hymn]

Actually "alba" is is suggested to derive from the hypothetical Proto Indoeuropean "albho" = white, also seen in Hellenic as "alphos" used to describe 'white leprosy'.. Based on the account of Livy who mentions 'Alba' as the son of Latinus Silvius which obviously pre-dates any connection with the Celts, I'd say the possibility of them adopting it from them is quite slim.

But since you mention the 'Albanoi' from Ptolemy's Geography, isn't it interesting that the 'Albanopolis' he mentioned and has been used by all supporters of the Albanian-Illyrian connection also existed in the Caucasus?

From the Catholic Encyclopedia when reading about the life of St. Bartholomew we find:

............The manner of his death, said to have occurred at Albanopolis in Armenia, is equally uncertain; according to some, he was beheaded, according to others, flayed alive and crucified, head downward, by order of Astyages, for having converted his brother, Polymius, King of Armenia.................

[Ervald]

if i was from armenia, i would be proud for my country and my roots, but im not, since my language isnt from caucasus nor my ancestors who from generation have been on the same land that i was born

[Hermes]

May be after 2.000 years the world change so much and some one in Usa will find a map of any city called Albany. And there could be some emigrants from Albania in Australia(from forigners they are always called Albanian) and than.........EUREKA!!!! they will know where do they come from. No mater if had been an "Albania" in 2007 that had nothing to do with Albany.

U like to take always strange teories and the only one reason is that this nation isnt orthodox. if it was it could be greek, absolutely, bcz their churches would have greek leters.Anyway its your problem.

Romac historians passing throw Illyria mention to many times the Illyrian tribes
At a the center of today albania lived Albanet (alb form)tribe.If they were a very big tribe and if they lived in a very great territor, would have a greater influence and so the history would speak more about them and of course their land would be called Albania.

there was the first Alb Mideval State>>> the Pricipate of Arberia~Albania ( l~r r~n in alb its so useful and normal) All the other ''albanians'' were call by that but just by forigners.

[Hermes]

We all know the famous line of Teodos Empror(year 4..).
Well, it passed in the middle of today albania, near Kruja/Krogia.After that the north was Illyricum and south Epirus(as administration regions, it couldnt be either, dont u see)So in the future the people of the south was called Epirus people.And in the north? Well, the slaves did what we know, and we know too that there were too much illyrians asimilated by slaves, but they couldnt be mentioned more as ilyrians.So the first and the most well known Illyrain tribe above Teodosi line was Albanet one(in alb > arberia >albania by forigners).And we see at these time that Illyria is mentioned with scarce obiectivity, its normal.To speak about these people above Teodos line , that werent slaves or greek they began to use albanesis, they couldnt use greek bcz they were Catholic,under Pope influece and some of them under Orthodox serb churches.In south remained Epirus and Epirotaes people,sometimes greek bcz of their religion.At those times no one cared about nationality, just religion.Thi s dameged very much people like albanians.Thats why today there are to many questions.
Turk religion made it worse.
Edith Durham(an englishwoman in Balcans in ~1910) asking turk administrator about his suddits nationality,was always answered : there are x% turks, y% greeks and z% latins(romans)no other kind of nationality, but she says there were only albanians in the streetes,bazaars and city , with their ''suits'' and speaking albanian language.It was the beging of the 20 century, can u imagine much before????????????/

[Morphesau]

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Can anyone please tell me the date of this map!!! and sources along with it.

Thanks, eufxaristo.

[Hermes]

About the map, its too exact to be original, there was no satellite at those times.
Anyway its good , still it make some people feel good.

[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by Hermes

About the map, its too exact to be original, there was no satellite at those times.
Anyway its good , still it make some people feel good.

You don't need a satellite to read ancient texts.. Try Strabo, Pliny and Ptolemy which you use to quote Albanopolis and you'll find the borders of the region in question.(book 5 chap 11-12)