Foustanella

[Orphic_Hymn]

The 'foustanella' is nothing but the descendant of the ancient 'Chlamys' and 'Tonga' and the later Byzantine "tunica" that wasn't much of a change to the ancient forms..
Proof of the existance since ancient times is the find in Durres (ancient Hellinic colony of Epidamnos founded 650BC) of this artifact dated 500BC:







Here's a 5th cent. Byzantine icon again depicting a 'tunica' under the armor :





Of course its origins are far older as written by Paul Rehak in his "Aegean Breechcloths, Kilts, and the Keftiu Paintings" clearly states :

In discussions of Aegean costume, considerable attention has been paid to the change in the representation of presumed Aegean natives (the Keftiu) in several Egyptian tomb paintings of the 18th Dynasty. The earlier tombs depict men wearing breechcloths with codpieces and backflaps; the later tombs show men in kilts. The date of this change has usually been thought to coincide with a shift & power in the Aegean at-the end of LM IB, from Minoans (with codpieces) to Mycenaeans (in kilts).

But both breechcloths and kilts are worn on Crete
at least from MM II times, and neither costume is generally worn by early Mycenaeans. Breechcloths with codpieces characterize certain types of Minoan activity (hunting, farming, bull-leaping, and ritual performances),
whereas shorts appear in early Mycenaean scenes of hunting and fighting, replaced in LH IIIA-B frescoes by tunics; most Mycenaean representations of kilts are quite late (LH IIIB).

(note that "Middle Minoan II = 1900-1720 B.C
"Late Helladic IIIB" = 1300-1200 BC)

[PAO123]

I wouldn't be too quick on the first picture though since it says something Albanian under the name. But it doesn't matter since these quotes prove that the foustanella is Greek.

[taikou]

Originally Posted by PAO123

it says something Albanian under the name.

The caption says "Man with fustanella (terracota of Durres,4th century A.D.)"
Another way of saying A.D. is "e.r".B.C. is "p.e.s."
I've no idea whether this artifact is from A.D. or B.C.,but if what Orphic_Hymn said is true and the artifact is indeed from B.C.,then the caption is mistaken.
We can only judge whether the mistake was intentional or a simple typographic error(which is VERY COMMON in Albania) if we can see the main article of this book....

[Orphic_Hymn]

The artifact is from the Hellinistic city of Epidamnus (mentioned as "Durresit" under the pic). Unfortunately my knowledge of Albanian is next to nothing, but I have found several archeology related articles in Albanian that make reference to "shek." and "p.e.s" (which taikou mentioned) .. Maybe the 'p' was left out.. really can't say.

After a little search I found where the pic came from (I picked it off an older forum discussion). In wikipedia, its mentioned when refering to the origins of the 'fustanella', so it obviously is BC.. With the help of an online translator I managed to find out that 'shek' most probably is short for 'shekull' which means "century, age".

[olvios]

The chiton & chlamys and proto-foustanella elements

[Illyria]

fustanella is an albanian dress...

[Ptolemy]

This was the last time, you posted claims without backing it up. It will be the last one in this forum if you insist to the same childish and counterproductive attitude.

[Amarantos]

Originally Posted by Ptolemy

This was the last time, you posted claims without backing it up. It will be the last one in this forum if you insist to the same childish and counterproductive attitude.

[Orphic_Hymn]

"Introducing Greece" by Francis King p.53

Traditionally the white skirt, or fustanella, is said to have originated from the Roman tunics........

"The People of Turkey" by Fanny Janet Blunt p.69

The Albanians are divided into several distinct races, each presenting marked features of difference from the other and occupying separate districts. Those of Upper Albania are called Ghegs, and inhabit that portion oi the country called Ghegueria, which extends from the frontiers of Bosnia and Monte¬negro to Berat.
These men are broad-chested, tall, and robust, have regular features, and a proud, manly, independent mien. Their personal attractions are not a Uttle enhanced by their rich and picturesque national costume—a pair of cloth gaiters; an embroidered jacket with open sleeves; a double-breasted waistcoat, the Greek fustanella (white calico kilt), surmounted by a cloth skirt opened in front; a kemer, or leather belt decorated with silver ornaments and holding a pistol, yatagan and other arms of fine workmanship.

"Prince Louis of Battenberg, Admiral of the Fleet" by Mark Edward Frederic Kerr p. 18

The dinner was a very grand and picturesque affair, as all the servants were in the Greek costume, called the fustanella.

"Lord Cromer: Victorian imperialist, Edwardian proconsul" by Roger Owen p. 28

Baring remembered the King's fustanella (Greek kilt) as very dirty, and the Queen, in tears, telling him a very long story designed.........

"With the Greeks in Thessaly" By William Kinnaird Rose p.7

Every steamer arriving at Pineus landed hundreds of reservists, recruits, and volunteers not only from the Isles of Greece but from every quarter of the Levant, from North Africa, from Western Europe, and even from America, South Africa, and Australia. They were attired in every variety of costume—the baggy pants and braided jacket of the Albanian ;

the fustanella, or plaited linen kilt, of the mountaineers, with picturesque jacket and tassellcd fez ; the heavy woollen cloak and tight white breeches of shepherds and peasants fiom plain and mountain on the mainland, and even suits of Western tweed.

"Our allies and enemies in the Near East" by Jean Victor Bates p. 163

A dispute has arisen between the proprietor and one of the new-comers, whose fustinella and long-tasselled scarlet fez proclaim him a Greek.

[Hermes]

How is posible that the same fustanella that Orphic_Hymn shows at top is still dressed in northen Albania. It is of B.C times but it still exist, it is like just made 5 minutes before lokkking to the person that dress it. It dont seem to me like antic, its present.