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Old 03-24-2008, 03:25 PM
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*No ancient Greek in Albanian language thus nothing to do with Ancient Greeks or Illyrians as they were effected by it
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:27 PM
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*No ancient Greek in Albanian language thus nothing to do with Ancient Greeks or Illyrians as they were effected by it
You are definitaly wrong.

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Old 03-24-2008, 03:28 PM
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and descended by Albanians



I like this painting.......do you know its story my friend ?
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:35 PM
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You are definitaly wrong.
You are definitely lacking in the brain department

The lack of ancient Greek loans in Albanian is disputed (see Hemp; Cabej). It is unanimously admitted however, that if they are present, they are very rare (Hemp, Cabej).
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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Before continuing with the dimmer Balkan past, there are two sets of old loans in Albanian which lead us to a slender, but valuable, conclusion. It has long been recognized (since A. Thumb's basic article, IF 1910:26.1-20) that the ancient Greek loans are rare. Pre-Albanian was scarcely in close contact with Greek in antiquity. This places the Albanians north of the Jireek line.



Nothing to do with Ancient Greeks (Pelasgians,Macedonians,Epirotes...)
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"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"

"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."

Claudius Ptolemy, The Geographer

http://www.hoplites.net/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/megist...arastashmaxon/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapsoftheancientworld/
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Hegemony...index.php?c=11

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Old 03-24-2008, 03:47 PM
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I like this painting.......do you know its story my friend ?
This my supose-friend is an /Arvan-ites/~~/Arban-ites/~~/Arben-ites/



This is the only name Albanians call themselves(before Shqypetar).
ARBAN or ARBEN
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:51 PM
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A medieval text is not modern science.Wake up and come in the real world.

Before continuing with the dimmer Balkan past, there are two sets of old loans in Albanian which lead us to a slender, but valuable, conclusion. It has long been recognized (since A. Thumb's basic article, IF 1910:26.1-20) that the ancient Greek loans are rare. Pre-Albanian was scarcely in close contact with Greek in antiquity. This places the Albanians north of the Jireek line.
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"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/megist...arastashmaxon/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapsoftheancientworld/
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:57 PM
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You are definitaly wrong.

you surely lack the appropriate knowledge or even intelligence.The Greek sculpture on the left shows the ancient Greek dance of Pyrrhic(fire dance in Greek),and especially the one which was danced in Crete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_dance
The same dance exists now in a more modern version in various Greek dances like Pontian ones Cretan etc etc.So all of that might show a Greek dance style that was adopted by you but in modern times.This is called Balkanization.you have only one such type of dance(if ti is real) whereas we have many different styles.So,since you are newcomers you've just adopted it.By the way,can you show any evidence of your existence in B.C times?and something more.can you give us some more info about your dance?is it a usual one or only happened once and later forgotten because of its foreign roots from a nation you hate,the Greek?



p.s1 this is the typical Pyrrhic dance
http://www.gnwsis.gr/pmwiki.php?n=Ma...99%CE%9F%CE%A3
http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/cl...e/pyrrhic.html

traditional Greek sword Dance(originated from Pyrrhic dances)






pontian dance mahairia(knives)
p.s.2if this is your only statement,then you have a problem since those dances exists till today.where are the rest of your examples,which will justify the existence of the Albanians in B.c. times?probably they do not exist
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Old 03-24-2008, 04:01 PM
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actually those picture if you look in historical sources and not in usual propaganda crap you'll see they show Greeks in ottoman times and ater that.Don't you agree? and give some links of them

as for the first picture it shows a Greek revolutionary in 1821
(Armatolos. Water Colour by Carl Haag. Benaki Museum, Athens.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armatoloi
I see you like to change documents for your own good eh?you are a typical asshole.why so?do you lack of the appropriate clues to justify yourself so you twist facts?

and Epirots are Greek!
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you surely lack the appropriate knowledge or even intelligence.The Greek sculpture on the left shows the ancient Greek dance of Pyrrhic(fire dance in Greek),and especially the one which was danced in Crete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_dance
The same dance exists now in a more modern version.So all of that clearly show a Greek dance style that was adopted by you.This is called Balkanization.
Usually the non-inteligent people have hard time to understant the inteligent ones.
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