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[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by helios

My understanding??????

Have a look

Through is a different word from thoroughly.
I know very good that through=dia is a preposition in an. gr.

Firstly dia is a preposition of the Hellenic language, ancient and modern, isn't the issue here since its very well used in both forms.

As for the rest... you're still stuck on posting the pic of a dictionary entry which you've proven incapable of understanding..
But just to educate you a bit more (providing you understand the lessons).. lets add the two entry's which are of interest.
thorough and through:




So we find it means "from end to end, from side to side," and that for further reading on the adjective and the preposition, we should look into the entry "through". So what does the "through" entry tell us:




So we find that the words themselves were: Not clearly differentiated from thorough until early Mod.Eng. but that is totally indifferent to us, since we aren't discussing the meaning of the words themselves but that of the preposition.. and when thorough and NOT "thoroughly" which you've rediculously added is used as a preposition, then it is has the exact same meaning through does. (see Merriam Webster)

I AM NOT INTERESTED BEING TAUGHT FOR THINGS I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.

Unfortunately you've proven totally ignorant and incapable of being tutored, hence why you continue insisting on posting the same crap over and over again and jumping from one topic to another.

Let me repeat myself:
Who cares where the word Diokese comes from.
Te debate was about the word ZONE.
How come the people of Crete and other Greek regions are using an Albanian word for the God.
ZE or Zon or Zan.
They are all Albanian words still in use in various places in Albania

You repeat yourself
You care about diocese, hence why once you saw that your stupidity of posting the map got you nothing but ridicule..you began this stupidity of trying to discredit a dictionary entry (which you've proven incompotent of reading and thus comprehending) with your propaganda etymologies that wouldn't stand before a 4th grade elementary school student.

As for the rest.. you claim to know the topic being debated but you avoid giving responces.. I requested that you indicate EXACTLY where the book you nit-picked the quote from, claims that Zone is a word of Albanian origin..
and what did I get?

NOTHING.. more than further celebration of your stupidity.

Firstly, all regions refered to in the abstract in question are found in Crete, so again you prove that your non-existant comprehension of the texts you read leads you to ridiculous conclusions..
As already noted above, the various forms of the names attributed to Zeus, indicate that this is simply a dialectic variation found in Cretan folklore.

But since you'd like to discuss this.. do tell us how Albanian is the source of the God's name when we know that a) its Indoeuropean and b) its well recorded in Linear B' tablets which proves its use prior to the appearance of Illyrians in the region ? (lets not forget that the whole Albanian = Illyrian theory is problematic)

[helios]

Originally Posted by Orphic_Hymn

Firstly dia is a preposition of the Hellenic language, ancient and modern, isn't the issue here since its very well used in both forms.

As for the rest... you're still stuck on posting the pic of a dictionary entry which you've proven incapable of understanding..
But just to educate you a bit more (providing you understand the lessons).. lets add the two entry's which are of interest.
thorough and through:




So we find it means "from end to end, from side to side," and that for further reading on the adjective and the preposition, we should look into the entry "through". So what does the "through" entry tell us:




So we find that the words themselves were: Not clearly differentiated from thorough until early Mod.Eng. but that is totally indifferent to us, since we aren't discussing the meaning of the words themselves but that of the preposition.. and when thorough and NOT "thoroughly" which you've rediculously added is used as a preposition, then it is has the exact same meaning through does. (see Merriam Webster)





Unfortunately you've proven totally ignorant and incapable of being tutored, hence why you continue insisting on posting the same crap over and over again and jumping from one topic to another.



You repeat yourself
You care about diocese, hence why once you saw that your stupidity of posting the map got you nothing but ridicule..you began this stupidity of trying to discredit a dictionary entry (which you've proven incompotent of reading and thus comprehending) with your propaganda etymologies that wouldn't stand before a 4th grade elementary school student.

As for the rest.. you claim to know the topic being debated but you avoid giving responces.. I requested that you indicate EXACTLY where the book you nit-picked the quote from, claims that Zone is a word of Albanian origin..
and what did I get?

NOTHING.. more than further celebration of your stupidity.

Firstly, all regions refered to in the abstract in question are found in Crete, so again you prove that your non-existant comprehension of the texts you read leads you to ridiculous conclusions..
As already noted above, the various forms of the names attributed to Zeus, indicate that this is simply a dialectic variation found in Cretan folklore.

But since you'd like to discuss this.. do tell us how Albanian is the source of the God's name when we know that a) its Indoeuropean and b) its well recorded in Linear B' tablets which proves its use prior to the appearance of Illyrians in the region ? (lets not forget that the whole Albanian = Illyrian theory is problematic)

Like I said I dont care about Diokese.
Second I dont intend to read your whole pathetic post because is too much desperate talking which is addressed to me but is just a trying to autoconvince yourself, your stuborn brainwashed head.
Third I dont need to bring books to show that the word ZON and ZE and ZAN and much more are Albanian ones. Those world are still alive, still in use, still showing the same thing like 4000 years ago and more.

[helios]

Originally Posted by Orphic_Hymn

Unfortunately you've proven totally ignorant and incapable of being tutored, hence why you continue insisting on posting the same crap over and over again and jumping from one topic to another.

While you with your offensive way , offending every single post have shown yourself being a brainwashed and pathetic person, who is using all dirty tactics since the fair debate showed in ALL CASES him being wrong.

Originally Posted by Orphic_Hymn

..jumping from one topic to another

ha ha ha ha look who is talking

[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by helios

Like I said I dont care about Diokese.
Second I dont intend to read your whole pathetic post because is too much desperate talking which is addressed to me but is just a trying to autoconvince yourself, your stuborn brainwashed head.
Third I dont need to bring books to show that the word ZON and ZE and ZAN and much more are Albanian. Those world are still alive, still in use, still showing the same thing like 4000 years ago and more.

Yeah I've noticed that you run when your absurd claims are trashed.. so I'll let you cry about diocese and your map alone.

Secondly your avoidance to address the evident with some form of academic paper simply indicates the magnitude of propaganda you've had shoved into that head of yours. Its not that you don't need, but that you CAN NOT provide us with anything that would support your drivel of a 4000yr old history let alone, a language of that age. Simply because beside the noted problems in the Albanian-Illyrian theory, there were no Illyrians (remember those you claim descendance from) in the region 4000yrs ago, not to neglect to mention that they were neither in the region during the time that the first reference to him in Linear B' tablets appears.

[helios]

Originally Posted by Orphic_Hymn

Yeah I've noticed that you run when your absurd claims are trashed.. so I'll let you cry about diocese and your map alone.

Secondly your avoidance to address the evident with some form of academic paper simply indicates the magnitude of propaganda you've had shoved into that head of yours. Its not that you don't need, but that you CAN NOT provide us with anything that would support your drivel of a 4000yr old history let alone, a language of that age. Simply because beside the noted problems in the Albanian-Illyrian theory, there were no Illyrians (remember those you claim descendance from) in the region 4000yrs ago, not to neglect to mention that they were neither in the region during the time that the first reference to him in Linear B' tablets appears.

There is no propaganda in Albania. It has never been. Some people do in a spontaneous way. Nothing organised, nothing financed, nothing at all.
While look at you guys, oh my god. The network of propaganda is perfect.

[Draco]

Watching helios's participation here, I feel I must admit that I never knew there were so many ways to dodge providing proper academic references.

[Foti66]

Originally Posted by helios

There is not propaganda in Albania. It has never been. Some people do in a spontaneous way. Nothing organised, nothing financed, nothing at all.
While look at you guys, oh my god. The network of propaganda is perfect.

Someone please ban this troll! Friend you are talking nonsense! enough!

[helios]

Originally Posted by Foti66

Someone please ban this troll! Friend you are talking nonsense! enough!

Failers.

[Foti66]

Originally Posted by helios

Failers.

What is a failer?