Greekness of Molossians

[boreans79]

Originally Posted by Andrew

ooo about the 3 Dorian tribes ..I know them ..Υλλείς are only "foresters" in Greek "ύλη" .It is often in some continetnal greek dialects to dupricate k,l,r

I wouldnt bet it is forester nor oppose it. I have to say Ylleis is the plural of Yllos or Yllas. I would be curios to know which kind of noun declension it belongs the Attic one or the Omicron-Declension without the consonant steam, but I know for sure that the root is YLL doesnt matter the inflection which affect only the endings os and eis.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by boreans79

In Classical Greek, it was pronounced like French u or German ü, or like Albanian Y. But in ancient greek a great role plays the position of the vowel in the word and the following consonant. Also dont forget that ancient greek was a polytonic language and not a monotonic one like the demotiki so the mirror signs play a fondamental role in the so called melody of the language, meanwhile in modern greek the colour is totally absent.

I know it's politonic man ..I don't want to spent my time by giving you the words in politonic ...
..and why do you consider Classic Greek apart of the Ancient one ..or you define Ancient like Archaic ??

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by boreans79

I wouldnt bet it is forester nor oppose it. I have to say Ylleis is the plural of Yllos or Yllas. I would be curios to know which kind of noun declension it belongs the Attic one or the Omicron-Declension without the consonant steam, but I know for sure that the root is YLL doesnt matter the inflection which affect only the endings os and eis.

I agree that Ylleis is the plural of Yllos ...and I'm not a glossologist.
My opinion is that in Mythology a tribe gets it's name by one person ...
...but it is more realistic if the tribe takes it's name by one of it's characteristics: location , habbits , all that .
That Ylleis for me means foresters ..has sense since I saw somewere that maybe also "Dorian" means forrester and not "holding the Dory (spear)" and I think that the connection was the PIE word for tree "dr" DoR , denDRon , TRee and that is was one of the caracterristics that separated Italians and Greeks (Arbor vs. denDRON) ...I don't know if that helps.

[olvios]

Greeks and Pre-Greeks: Aegean Prehistory and Greek Heroic Tradition Margalit Finkelberg,ISBN-10: 0521852161,2005,Page 133:"... which was spoken in West Thessaly (Thessaliotis), while Boeotian was in turn connected with Northwest Greek, which was spoken in Epirus. ..."

[chicagogeorge]

Cambridge on the Molossians, and other Epirote tribes...



Cambridge on the Molossian's brother tribe.... the Chaones...

[chicagogeorge]

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