Documentary about Pyrros Dimas, childhood and origins

[Tsontos]

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[Peace Lover]

Ha ha ha , Pirro Dhima is an Albanain mercenar , an old Albanian tradition , from the time of the Illyrians !

The same as Luan Shabani .
Also Mirela Manjani etc.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by Peace Lover

Ha ha ha , Pirro Dhima is an Albanain mercenar , an old Albanian tradition , from the time of the Illyrians !

The same as Luan Shabani .
Also Mirela Manjani etc.

Off course Shabani and Manjani are Albanians but not Pyrros Dimas.I still remember his first interview when he won the first gold medall in 1992,you could understand from his accent and the way he spoke Greek that it was his native language.I remember also(in the same olympics,Barcelona 1992) what he shouted when he lifted the weight: <Για την Ελλάδα!>(For Greece!).

[Tsontos]

Yes thats what every Albanian on the internet likes to parrot. But do you have any proof he doesnt come from a Grecophone and ethnic Greek family from Albania?

[gmellos]

Originally Posted by Tsontos

Yes thats what every Albanian on the internet likes to parrot. But do you have any proof he doesnt come from a Grecophone and ethnic Greek family from Albania?

Off course NOT they all believe the BS lies of thier communist era education system!

[TirAlb]

There are not Greeks in Himara,thats why he can't be Greek.But you can take him we don't need that kind of people.

[Draco]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

There are not Greeks in Himara,thats why he can't be Greek.But you can take him we don't need that kind of people.

Please elaborate. I often hear you say that and I still don't understand why they are not Greeks. If they are not Greeks, what are they?

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Draco

Please elaborate. I often hear you say that and I still don't understand why they are not Greeks. If they are not Greeks, what are they?

They are Albanians.I don't know if you are familiar with area,it is sorrounded by mountaines and their only link with the outside word was the sea.Almost every himariot house had a boat and their only sustain means were fishing and trade with south italy(In italy Himariot descendants still exist and they are just as the other Arbereshs) and Korfu.Indeed till 1800 they were bilingual and their second language was italian and not Greek.They started to speak the same greek dialect of Korfu,but it is a quite recent thing,and their Albanian is a perfect Lab dialect.During their marriages or funerals they sing in Albanian.Its immposible to distinguish Himariots from other Albanians from those regions,while you can spot immediately a greek from the minority are because of their typical greek accent.The only diference is that they are orthodox due to their isolation.Even today the Himariots that declare themselves Greeks are less then 30-35%.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

They are Albanians.I don't know if you are familiar with area,it is sorrounded by mountaines and their only link with the outside word was the sea.Almost every himariot house had a boat and their only sustain means were fishing and trade with south italy(In italy Himariot descendants still exist and they are just as the other Arbereshs) and Korfu.Indeed till 1800 they were bilingual and their second language was italian and not Greek.They started to speak the same greek dialect of Korfu,but it is a quite recent thing,and their Albanian is a perfect Lab dialect.During their marriages or funerals they sing in Albanian.Its immposible to distinguish Himariots from other Albanians from those regions,while you can spot immediately a greek from the minority are because of their typical greek accent.The only diference is that they are orthodox due to their isolation.Even today the Himariots that declare themselves Greeks are less then 30-35%.

These claims seem to me very childish and naif.What malakies are you telling us?They are claiming that they are Greeks because they learnt Greek in order to trade with Greeks of Korfu!This must be something unique in world history!I know many people who learnt the language of their neighbourns for several reasons,(some of them speak now only their new language instead their own,like Scotts and Irish)but no one has changed his ethnicity for that.As for your claim that they are orthodox due to their isolation,i ask you:were the Greeks of Himarra the only isolated people in Albania?The Albanians who lived also in Himara weren't isolated?Why aren't they orthodox?

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by kostas68

These claims seem to me very childish and naif.What malakies are you telling us?They are claiming that they are Greeks because they learnt Greek in order to trade with Greeks of Korfu!This must be something unique in world history!I know many people who learnt the language of their neighbourns for several reasons,(some of them speak now only their new language instead their own,like Scotts and Irish)but no one has changed his ethnicity for that.As for your claim that they are orthodox due to their isolation,i ask you:were the Greeks of Himarra the only isolated people in Albania?The Albanians who lived also in Himara weren't isolated?Why aren't they orthodox?

Albanian catholics were isolated as well.They are a pocket in a muslim area thats their particularity,and as i said thanks to their isolation.And btw himara in medieval times was the name for all the region not only for the 9 villages like today.
Sry man but its not a naive claim.Their history is well documented.As i said we have himariots in italy,Skanderbegs son tryed to organise an uprising exactly in Himara,napoleon formed the "Garde Albanaise",with recrutes from Himara,half of their surnames are simply catholic Albanian surname,probably because most of them are just north Albanians that moved there after the fall of Kruja.

I know many people who learnt the language of their neighbourns for several reasons,(some of them speak now only their new language instead their own,like Scotts and Irish)

Well you forgot to mention Arvanites.Himariots are just albanians and they like all the other orthodox Albanians were a blackmailing instrument in the hands of greece.