Mycenaean Epirus

[olvios]

A Historical Greek Reader: Mycenaean to the Koine,by Stephen Colvin,ISBN-10: 0199226601,2008,Page 40,"... (innovations) until the post-Mycenaean period.' In the late second millennium the proto- Aeolians seem to have occupied the regions between Epirus and Thessaly, ..."


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 4,"... 9mbracian V r 0 10 20 30 km I Gulf 32 Figure 1: Map of Epirus showing the locations of known sites with Mycenaean remains. ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 6: "... and the mechanisms by which such interactions took place. The strongest evidence for Mycenaean presence in Epirus is found in the coastal zone of the lower Acheron River, ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 17: "... The Mycenaean Presence in Southwestern Epirus Taking into account the discoveries of the Nikopolis Project, remains of Mycenaean provenience or inspiration are known

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 18: "... and more gently on the south and west. From this acropolis-like settlement comes the strongest evidence for Mycenaean presence in Epirus. A circuit wall employing Cyclopean masonry, muCh of which can still be traced, ..."


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 22: "... a fragmentary condition, it appears that the assemblage conforms in chronological and formal terms to Mycenaean pottery already known from Epirus. The kylix is the most commonly identifiable shape, with fewer sherds belonging to stirrup jars, kraters, cups, and other shapes. ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 23: "... at Mazaraki in the interior of northern Epirus, of Aegean pottery and bronze objects as burial goods in Gist graves (Wardle 1977, 177, fig. 10 nos. 476, 477; ...


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001, Page 24: "... There is no reason to imagine that these constructions in Epirus would have been among the first, although construction dates in the first half of LH IIIB are not unlikely. ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 27: "... GLYKYS LIMIN /23 of domesticated cattle are found in excavated contexts in Epirus from late Neolithic times (Douzough and Zachos 1994, 17); Ephyra and the adjacent Nekyomanteion site have produced them alongside those ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 30: "... or luxury items of Mycenaean type-imported pottery and bronze weapons and utilitarian objects-were deposited primarily in graves and hoards throughout Epirus, ...

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 34: "... desires of those who possessed them to constrain or mobilize social action. In the case of Mycenaean engagement in coastal Epirus, ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Table of Contents: "... A Mycenaean Port of Trade in Southern Epirus?

[olvios]

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001
Page 23,"... LH IIIA2 (the second half of the fourteenth century) that Mycenaean objects began to appear at inland settlements such as Dodona, and to the end of LH IIIA or the first years of LI-I IIIB we may assign the earliest use, ..."

[olvios]

Μυκηναϊκός πολιτισμός στην 'Ηπειρο

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 4,"... 9mbracian V r 0 10 20 30 km I Gulf 32 Figure 1: Map of Epirus showing the locations of known sites with Mycenaean remains. ..."

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[Peace Lover]

" The Greeks call Illyrians those people who live from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the Ister(Danube) river , beyond Thrace and Macedonia " , Illyrian Wars , Appian - Father of the Roman history .
1-Epirus = Illyrian ,
2-Paeonia = Illyrian ,
3-Moesia = Illyrian ,
4-Pannonia = Illyrian ,
5-Dardania = Illyrian .

[Cadmus]

Originally Posted by Peace Lover

" The Greeks call Illyrians those people who live from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the Ister(Danube) river , beyond Thrace and Macedonia " , Illyrian Wars , Appian - Father of the Roman history .
1-Epirus = Illyrian ,
2-Paeonia = Illyrian ,
3-Moesia = Illyrian ,
4-Pannonia = Illyrian ,
5-Dardania = Illyrian .

Hey you forgot Macedonia+Illyrian right?

[Peace Lover]

Originally Posted by Cadmus

Hey you forgot Macedonia+Illyrian right?

No !
They live : beyond Thrace and Macedonia !

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Peace Lover

" The Greeks call Illyrians those people who live from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the Ister(Danube) river , beyond Thrace and Macedonia " , Illyrian Wars , Appian - Father of the Roman history .
1-Epirus = Illyrian ,

Are you sure ??

Strabo (7,7,323):

So then, in travelling this road from the region of Epidamnus and Apollonia, one has on the right the Epeirotic tribes whose coasts are washed by the Sicilian Sea and extend as far as the Ambracian Gulf,415 and, on the left, the mountains of Illyria [...]

Herodotus (6,126-7):

Then all those of the Hellenes who had pride either in themselves or in their high descent, came as wooers, and for them Cleisthenes had a running- course and a wrestling-place made and kept them expressly for their use.

127. From Italy came Smindyrides the son of Hippocrates of Sybaris, who of all men on earth reached the highest point of luxury (now Sybaris at this time was in the height of its prosperity), and Damasos of Siris, the son of that Amyris who was called the Wise; these came from Italy: from the Ionian gulf came Amphimnestos the son of Epistrophos of Epidamnos, this man from the Ionian gulf: from Aitolia came Males, the brother of that Titormos who surpassed all the Hellenes in strength and who fled from the presence of men to the furthest extremities of the Aitolian land: from Peloponnesus, Leokedes the son of Pheidon the despot of the Argives, that Pheidon who established for the Peloponnesians the measures which they use, and who went beyond all other Hellenes in wanton insolence, since he removed from their place the presidents of the games appointed by the Eleians and himself presided over the games at Olympia,--his son, I say, and Amiantos the son of Lycurgos an Arcadian from Trapezus, and Laphanes an Azanian from the city of Paios, son of that Euphorion who (according to the story told in Arcadia) received the Dioscuroi as guests in his house and from thenceforth was wont to entertain all men who came, and Onomastos the son of Agaios of Elis; these, I say, came from Peloponnesus itself: from Athens came Megacles the son of that Alcmaion who went to Crœsus, and besides him Hippocleides the son of Tisander, one who surpassed the other Athenians in wealth and in comeliness of form: from Eretria, which at that time was flourishing, came Lysanias, he alone from Eubœa: from Thessalia came Diactorides of Crannon, one of the family of the Scopadai: and from the Molossians, Alcon

[Peace Lover]

Are you sure ??

Strabo (7,7,323):

Right the Gegs(Illyrians) in the left(NORTH) of Genus(Shkumbin) river and the Tosks(Epirotes) on the right(SOUTH) !

Herodotus (6,126-7):

" Greece starts at Aetolia and Acarnania , because in the north live the stranger Epirotic tribes " , Herodotos (Please don't latinized the Greek names , cuz a hate it) !

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Peace Lover

Right the Gegs(Illyrians) in the left(NORTH) of Genus(Shkumbin) river and the Tosks(Epirotes) on the right(SOUTH) !



" Greece starts at Aetolia and Acarnania , because in the north live the stranger Epirotic tribes " , Heodotos (Please don't latinized the Greek names , cuz a hate it) !

BTW it's Herodotos not Heodotos ...and since there is english speaking audience ..it's polite to use the name that they know !