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Old 02-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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Dude i don't want to be a jerk but that video is BULLSHIT! Sparta had not 1 but 2 Kings! The minoans and Mycaenians had Kings as well. Also could you explain WHY "nonHellenic" tribes of Eprius would have KIngs who claimed decent from a Greek hero Achilles and thus a Greek god Zeus???
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:45 PM
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"so in determined periods there comes a great winter of a great year and with it excess of rain. But this excess does not always occur in the same place. The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now Hellenes."

Epirus was Greece.

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Dude i don't want to be a jerk but that video is BULLSHIT! Sparta had not 1 but 2 Kings! The minoans and Mycaenians had Kings as well. Also could you explain WHY "nonHellenic" tribes of Eprius would have KIngs who claimed decent from a Greek hero Achilles and thus a Greek god Zeus???
I said video about himara,Bollano ect so theres no need to focus the discusion on that stuff about ancient history.The question is who the modern Himariots are.
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I said video about himara,Bollano ect so theres no need to focus the discusion on that stuff about ancient history.The question is who the modern Himariots are.
they used ancient maps and pseudoquotes about ancient Epirus my friend! I don't have hate for you or your people but I diagree with some your people's nationalistic propaganda!
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:32 PM
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Either way youtube is bullshit and should NEVER be taken as fact! I have my views on the origins of the Albanian people but it doesn't matter to me where they came from cause your here now.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:16 PM
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I said video about himara,Bollano ect so theres no need to focus the discusion on that stuff about ancient history.The question is who the modern Himariots are.
The vid says lots of stuff on ancient history that are as always BS.And you too since it mentions ancient history.Crawl back to your hole.
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The vid says lots of stuff on ancient history that are as always BS.And you too since it mentions ancient history.Crawl back to your hole.
olvios just watch the video and don't split hairs!!.

.for example were is from mr Bollano ect.
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Georgios Kastriotis was a Greek Epirotis Prince and his Mother was a Serb how does that make him Albanian ? Even the Flag you use is a Greek Byzantium war flag......Used by Georgios Kastriotis.

Your flag before 1913 was similar to the Turkish flag.
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Photo: Greek and Albanian archaeologists are working together to uncover the secrets of ancient Antigoneia and its founder, Pyrrhus, king of the Molossians. Pyrrhus was a descendant of Achilles. He founded a city in 296 BC that was destroyed in the second century BC. The Romans meted out harsh treatment to the Epirote tribes who had been allies of Perseus.

By Iota Sykka - Kathimerini

Though Greece and Albania have much in common, Greece has not been officially involved in the burgeoning archaeological excavations and the activities of foreign archaeology schools in Albania in recent years.

But the cooperation memorandum signed last year by the Greek Culture Ministry and the Archaeological Institute of the Tirana Academy of Sciences has paved the way.

Joint research is being carried out at ancient Antigoneia under the supervision of the institute, headed by Muzafer Korkuti, and the 12th Ephorate, headed by Constantinos Zachos.

While they explore the mysteries of the city and its founder, Pyrrhus, king of the Molossians, a group of Albanian students from the universities of Girokaster and Tirana are in training for the future. The Greeks and Albanians will be working on the project together for the next three years.

Zachos talked about the Greek-Albanian project and the history of Antigoneia on Tuesday in a lecture at the Archaeological Society.

Pyrrhus was a descendant of Achilles. The city he founded in 296 BC was destroyed in the second century BC. The Romans meted out harsh treatment to the Epirote tribes who had been allies of Perseus.

Seventy walled settlements in Epirus were destroyed and 150,000 were taken into slavery, Zachos said. Rome was taking revenge for Pyrrhus' campaign in Italy more than a century earlier. Some scholars believe that Illyria and Epirus were razed in order to ensure unhindered communication with eastern Greece.

Albanian archaeologist Dhimosten Budina identified the city on a 35-hectare site at roughly 600 meters altitude, with walls 4 kilometers long. The identification was made on the basis of bronze ballots bearing the inscription ANTIGONEON on a Hellenistic-era house.

Pyrrhus named the city after his first wife Antigone, the daughter of the Macedonian nobles Berenice and Philip.

Budina has unearthed many finds, including the ancient agora, a 69-meter stoa, a treasury of bronze judicial ballots, vases, agricultural implements (including one used to castrate bulls), fragments of a bronze equestrian statue - the horse's tail and a life-size hand with a signet ring and a bronze muzzle. Most of the 700 coins that were found are from the Assembly of the Epirotes. A sixth-century Early Christian basilica as well as a tomb monument in one of the houses near the agora were also found.

Zachos said the impressive tomb, which contained fragments of jars, a glass vase, loom weights, a lamp, potsherds and Roman storage jars, was along the lines of Macedonian tombs and dates from the Hellenistic era.

The monument will be restored. As for the house, the bronze Macedonian coin (232-168-7 BC) found in it may be associated with the abandonment of the house in 167 BC. Research will continue in the agora, where there is a continuous sequence of material from the third century BC at the lower level to the second century BC at the higher level.

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They are working together and know the truth.

Is why I know you folks on message boards do
not represent the main stream Albanians who
are decent folks.


Many more I could underline, many more.
So enough of this UCK propagandas
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