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Old 02-18-2008, 03:47 PM
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Any part of North Epirus that has a majority of Greeks should declare independance, just like Kosovo.
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Come on guys....dont speak about persons that had sold theirselves. I have been many times in Himara, i have too many cousins there (from "vorioepirios"), and i know also too many old women , that remember many things and had heard too many others from their grandfathers. They say and admit that all the question of Himara is a politic one and has to do with the money that Greece give to them. So, no one say the opposite bcz have to lose the pension , cant have viza and have nothing to do in Himara, bcz there is work there. Also his family member would be treated like albanians(so, no pension , no viza).
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Come on guys....dont speak about persons that had sold theirselves. I have been many times in Himara, i have too many cousins there (from "vorioepirios"), and i know also too many old women , that remember many things and had heard too many others from their grandfathers. They say and admit that all the question of Himara is a politic one and has to do with the money that Greece give to them. So, no one say the opposite bcz have to lose the pension , cant have viza and have nothing to do in Himara, bcz there is work there. Also his family member would be treated like albanians(so, no pension , no viza).
Is truth . I know too many Vlachs of Albania that take the Homogenesis Card , they say to me that the first thing that they gone do after the Albania's joining in EU is to tear theyr HC in front of the TV-s !
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I don't said it to create confusion . But is truth , the Vlachs of Albania didn't considered themselves Greeks , Romanians or Albanians . They get profites from the Romanian Nationalist Fundings , the Greek HC and the stattus of minorances that they have in Albania .
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Right, its a good way to make money. They dont have to fight for lands, history and other stupid Balkan things. They just get money, and Romania and Greece are glad to pay them, just to hear from their soft voice that they are Greeks and Romanians. Albanian pension (the normal one) isnt enough.
May be someone would say that they are greeks and dont have to take money from Romania, but go and ask them about it. The same is for Himara people.
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# ,Albania: From Anarchy to a Balkan IdentityISBN 1850652791,by Miranda Vickers & James Pettifer, 1999,page 190,"When ethnic Greeks were caught attempting to escape to Greece,penalties were severe for the actual offender execution was common and his whole family might be condemned in internal exile for many years usually in the mining camps of northern and central albania"
# ^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/document-listings/balkan/G97," under communism, pupils were taught only Albanian history and culture, even in Greek-language classes at the primary level." ,
# ^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/d...lkan/G97,onset in 1967 of the campaign by Albanias communist party,the Albanian Party of Labour (PLA), to eradicate organised religion, a prime target of which was the Orthodox Church.Many churches were damaged or destroyed during this period, and many Greek-language books were banned because of their religious themes or orientation. Yet, as with other communist states, particularly in the Balkans, where measures putatively geared towards the consolidation of political control intersected with the pursuit of national integration, it is often impossible to distinguish sharply between ideological and ethno-cultural bases of repression. This is all the more true in the case of Albanias anti-religion campaign because it was merely one element in the broader Ideological and Cultural Revolution begun by Hoxha in 1966 but whose main features he outlined at the PLAs Fourth Congress in 1961.
# ^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/document-listings/balkan/G97,,"the attempt by the Socialist-led government to prevent Omonias participation in the 1992 elections on the grounds that it represented exclusively ethnic interests and was therefore illegal. "
# ^ Albania: From Anarchy to a Balkan IdentityISBN 1850652791,by Miranda Vickers & James Pettifer, 1999,page 79,"The attacks on Greeks on Saranda in and 9 february"
# ^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/document-listings/balkan/G97,"In 1991, Greek shops were attacked in the coastal town of Saranda, home to a large minority population, and inter-ethnic relations throughout Albania worsened".
# ^ Albania: From Anarchy to a Balkan IdentityISBN 1850652791,by Miranda Vickers & James Pettifer, 1999,page 198,"A purge of ethnic Greeks in the professions in Albania continued in 1994, with particular emphasis on the law and the military."
# ^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/document-listings/balkan/G97,"the area studied was confined to the southern border fringes, and there is good reason to believe that this estimate was very low"."Under this definition, minority status was limited to those who lived in 99 villages in the southern border areas, thereby excluding important concentrations of Greek settlement in Vlora (perhaps 8000 people in 1994) and in adjoining areas along the coast, ancestral Greek towns such as Himara, and ethnic Greeks living elsewhere throughout the country. Mixed villages outside this designated zone, even those with a clear majority of ethnic Greeks, were not considered minority areas and therefore were denied any Greek-language cultural or educational provisions. In addition, many Greeks were forcibly removed from the minority zones to other parts of the country as a product of communist population policy, an important and constant element of which was to pre-empt ethnic sources of political dissent. Greek place-names were changed to Albanian names, while use of the Greek language, prohibited everywhere outside the minority zones, was prohibited for many official purposes within them as well."

^ http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/csrc/document-listings/balkan/G97,"Under King Zog, the Greek villages suffered considerable repression, including the forcible closure of Greek-language schools in 1933-1934 and the ordering of Greek Orthodox monasteries to accept mentally sick individuals as inmates. "
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