Northern Epirus

[Peace Lover]

These Chicagogeorge is so funny ,
another time we should listening the Ianoulatos bullshits :
Who's Catholic is Italian , who's moslem is Turk , and we orthodoxes are Greeks !
Muahahahahahahahahah!
What about the Albanians ?!
Guys the biggest part of my friends are orthodoxes , and if they hate something , this is Greece !
I'm different , also I have some Vlach friends , THE MOST RIDICOLUS THING IS THAT THE VLACHS HATE THE GREEKS MORE THAN THE ALBANIAN ORTHODOXES !
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Considering , that you guys don't belive me , why you don't come in Albania these summer ?
Nice sea , nice people , a lot of ORTHODOX ALBANIANS and VLACHS to talk and to "reinforce" your national "Greek" IDENTITY !
Muahahahaha !

[chicagogeorge]

all talk you seem to be. Show us some historical documents!

[TirAlb]

Maybe he don't need to bring historical documents since clearly you are doing it for both.

[chicagogeorge]

^^

keep reading pg 279... I circled it

if that book confused you how about this from FN Scott circa 1918...

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

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keep reading pg 279... I circled it

Reading what?That there were only Greek schools in an Albanian populated area?We know that albanian was banned from Turks with the support of the Greek church.What else,that Greek orthodoxs were simply Albanians,we know that as well.
So whats the logic of the 279 page that the jungle law should be applyed to nations as well,and the "newest" and the weakest should just perish like in south epir and in other parts of Greece.
That decision was a salvation for those people,they saved moslems Albanians from the ethnic cleansing or deportatation to turkey,and orthodox Albanians from the forced assimiliation still ongoing at the time.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

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keep reading pg 279... I circled it

if that book confused you how about this from FN Scott circa 1918...

This is just perfect.The serbian and Greek version of history together not only in the same book,but even in the same page.I guess this half page long text about Albania is the result of an accurate research of the author.
Come on stop with this google book search.Is well known the the most of the books of that period are pro Serbian and Greek,for obvious reasons.

[chicagogeorge]

^^

Only the poor Albanians were forced to assimilate. God forbid that the peasant Greeks would be forced to adopt another language (Albanian) in areas where Albanian beys WORKING WITH THE OTTOMANS have the upper hand

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

Come on stop with this google book search.Is well known the the most of the books of that period are pro Serbian and Greek,for obvious reasons.

So are the authors of the books above either Greek or Serbian?

What are the obvious reasons? And where do you get your primary sources? Oh wait. I haven't seen any from you!

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

So are the authors of the books above either Greek or Serbian?

nc nc i didn't said that

What are the obvious reasons? And where do you get your primary sources? Oh wait. I haven't seen any from you!

Maybe because you had an 100years old state,with your own foreign minister,emmbasys all over the western world.You had your own press,your own publishing houses,your own schools,etc etc.
Ok i promise one of this days ill make a google book search as well,and bring here some pro Albanian selective quotes.

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Only the poor Albanians were forced to assimilate. God forbid that the peasant Greeks would be forced to adopt another language (Albanian) in areas where Albanian beys WORKING WITH THE OTTOMANS have the upper hand

As i said Albanian was officialy banned and the only schools allowed were in Greek or in Turkish.Btw why your church head-quarter was/is in Istanbul,you were enemies with Turks,during all those 500 long years,no?

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

nc nc i didn't said that

You implied it.

Maybe because you had an 100years old state,with your own foreign minister,emmbasys all over the western world.You had your own press,your own publishing houses,your own schools,etc etc.

So it's a conspiracy against the Albanian nationality! How about all the travelers to Epirus from western Europe who have eyewitness accounts which I also posted?

Ok i promise one of this days ill make a google book search as well,an bring here some pro Albanian selective quotes.

Please do.

As i said Albanian was officialy banned and the only schools allowed were in Greek or in Turkish.Btw why your church head-quarters was/is in Istanbul,you were enemies with Turks,during all those 500 long years,no?

Schools were also in Bulgarian and Romanian as well...... As for why the head of the church was in Istanbul. What could I tell you. It was always there? 1000 years before the Turks arrived? At least 40% of the population if Istanbul was Greek in the late 1800's? What is your point? The Greeks were the first to break away from the Ottoman Empire.....