Troubling Video on Epirus

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Paulos Melas

You can t go lower in Europe from being an Albanian.
The world learnt about the existence of Albania as the banana republic reffered at the movie Wag the dog.
I have nothing against those ignorant illiterate goatherders except from the fact that they occupy the Greek province of North Epirus.
They worked our fields for 15 years and got paid for it but after the rise of their ultranationalism now the time came for them to go back to their country along with their families. Simply as that.

And you worked ours for 500s so what?

Guys don't fall at same level of the idiots posting in you tube.In that video there were only basic things,I bet that the guy that made it is not more 17-18 years old,the idiocy that he wrote,that alb moslems are called chams and orthodoxs arvanites proofs that.
Paulos you allways amaze me from that HK thing to this transit to a republic.Mate if you weren't able to do smth there in 1997 how can you hope to do that now or in the future??Trust me in ten years you will have an even more stronger albania,an eu and nato member and defacto united with kosovo,than you will start listening the name cham and genocide every day more often,and not from tirana but from brussel.Another thing greeks like all the other europeans are becoming lazy,and those poor albanians you mentioned now are opening their busines in the middle of your capital city,they are gaining the citezenships meaning vote power,they are dynamic fast growing not like your old,dying small minority here.How you plan to invade albania with 5000 grekophone himarjots?
If you don't get it Albania is staying calm and silent waiting for its moment,and when it will came that all balcans will listen us very well.

By the way apart that mistake,the other things in the video were quite correct.

[Lakonian]

Originally Posted by Paulos Melas

You can t go lower in Europe from being an Albanian.
The world learnt about the existence of Albania as the banana republic reffered at the movie Wag the dog.
I have nothing against those ignorant illiterate goatherders except from the fact that they occupy the Greek province of North Epirus.
They worked our fields for 15 years and got paid for it but after the rise of their ultranationalism now the time came for them to go back to their country along with their families. Simply as that.

Wow, do i detect slight racial slurs in this post....no , not at all since we are talking about Albanians right.

[Truth Bearer]

Albanians were not goatherders the slavs were........Paulos is a bit out of line there but really there are some really delusional Albanians out there I must say.

[Truth Bearer]

TirAlb can you tell us mate when did yr oral language become a written?

[Truth Bearer]

A comment from a skopjian....Makes interesting reading read carefully..

From Jankovska a confused slav..
Just thought I shock you all a little bit. I went to Albania for New Years, it sort of happened and it was a chance for me to learn more about the country( see I am not that evil).
Anyway I spend 4 days in Drac and the beach is lovley. Drac actually has a big ethnic Macedonian community and the museums are full of Macedonian things. It was lovley to see parts of our history somewhere else, it sort of made me feel even more patriotic.
The beach is lovley but that is the only part that is beautiful about Albania. Otherwise is very backward and very very dirty.
Very hardly you can see women on the streets in the towns, everything is very old and you can still see a lot of things left form Hodga's time.
Hospitality is still zero but I must say that Albania especially this part is moving forward and in few years time it will be very modern and nice. A lot investments go to this part, Italian investments especially.
I visited Skanderbeg's fortress but there wasn't much to see, the museums were closed.
Tirana is a nice city but again very dirty and a bit different from Drac, people were more friendly in Drac than Tirana.
The annoying bit was that everytime we were asked where we were from and I'd say Makedonija they will say Skopians and it pissed me off alot, very hardly anyone refered to us as Macedonians.
I also met this woman who heared us speaking in Macedonian and spoke back so I asked her if she was Macedonian but she said no. She said she is Albanian but lives near the border which really didn't explain to me if she was or not. Her Macedonian was extremly good.
All in all I will not visit again, didn't leave a huge impression on me, the country is still in a bit of a chaos and when crossing the border into Macedonia it felt good, even the air was cleaner.
I will upload pictures for all of you to see, few interesting bits and peaces.
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Anderson is now known as Jankovska!!!!

[Morphesau]

TirAlb no offence mate but your people need a good smacking. Here are some of the claims now.

The Statue of Liberty was intended for an Albanian.
http://illyria.proboards19.com/index...ead=1200467028

A funny one now.
Origins of a word.
http://illyria.proboards19.com/index...ead=1200573039

On second link take a look at the second posters wiki link;

And we have from Georgios Kastriotis seal;
ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ.ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ.ΕΛΕΩ.ΘΥ.ΑΥΤ.ΡΩΜ.ΟΜΕΓ.ΑΥΘ.ΤΟΥΡ. ΑΛΒ.ΣΕΡΒΙ.ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΙ.

King. Alexander. By the grace of God. Emperor of the Romei (Romans, probably meaning Byzantine Greeks). The Great. Ruler of the Turks. Albanians. Serbs. Bulgarians.

He just shot him self with that wiki.

[Paulos Melas]

Well TirAlb its good to hear that Albanians are pretentious, an impossing threat to the balkans, I never agreed more. That makes the need for the Albanian repatriation even more urgent.
As for our dying minority is good to have someone actually admitting the poor conditions the North Epirotes are living so that further action should be taken to ensure their wellfare by bringing North Epirus back to mother Greece.
So long my dear Shqiptarët I leave you in your dreams of a greater Albania.
Be careful though as dreams sometines turn to nightmares, as history proves that at the end the strong prevail and the pawns fall - after have completed their trivial part in the big game.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

TirAlb can you tell us mate when did yr oral language become a written?

1. Formula e Pagezimit (1462)(baptesimal formula),issued by Pal engjelli archbishop of durres and Skanderbegs friend,it gave the right to the mothers to baptise their childs,Because with turks around for at least 3-4 months per year it wasn't allways possible finding a priest.

"Un te pagezonj pr'emen't Atit e t'birit e t'shpirtit shenjt".(i baptize you In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit).Thats the phrase its in gheg dialect and with latin letters.

[Morphesau]

Shqiptarët. E vërteta rri si vaji mbi ujÃ

Edit.
In English forgot the rules.
Albanian. The truth stays like oil on water.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Paulos Melas

Well TirAlb its good to hear that Albanians are pretentious, an impossing threat to the balkans, I never agreed more. That makes the need for the Albanian repatriation even more urgent.
As for our dying minority is good to have someone actually admitting the poor conditions the North Epirotes are living so that further action should be taken to ensure their wellfare by bringing North Epirus back to mother Greece.
So long my dear Shqiptarët I leave you in your dreams of a greater Albania.
Be careful though as dreams sometines turn to nightmares, as history proves that at the end the strong prevail and the pawns fall - after have completed their trivial part in the big game.

Man you didn't get my point again!Its not about greater Albania,South epirus is already gone.None is dreaming about that.But we have 150'000 chams in north epir waiting to have their lands back.There are special lists in the greek ambassy in order to negate visas to these people.But for how long this will last.Soon they will return there as eu citizines and...and they will try to have back whats theirs in the international ang greek courts,its just a matter of time.Again NE is gone as well,it wasn't never yours indeed,and do you know what your politicis there are the no1 cause of the rising of the hate toward greeks.Its not good when you see Bollano(an albanian from the 100% alb village of progonat,his family moved to himara anout 150 years ago,and the same goes to Dhimas),asking for independence and at the same time trying to stumble kosovas.
and time of "Broom" actions is gone,we are not in the caotic 90s any more!