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| After death A horseman statue portraying the Albanian folk hero, George Castriota Skanderbeg, in the square Piazza Albania in Rome, Italy.The Albanian resistance went on after the death of Skanderbeg for an additional ten years under the leadership of Dukagjini, though with only moderate success and no great victories. In 1478, the fourth siege of Krujë finally proved successful for the Ottomans; demoralized and severely weakened by hunger and lack of supplies from the year-long siege, the defenders surrendered to Mehmed, who had promised them to leave unharmed in exchange. As the Albanians were walking away with their families, however, the Ottomans reneged on this promise, killing the men and enslaving the women and children.[15] In 1479, the Ottoman forces captured the Venetian-controlled Shkodër after a fifteen-month siege.[16] Shkodër was the last Albanian castle to fall to the Ottomans and Venetians evacuated Durrës in 1501. Albanian resistance continued sporadically until around 1500. The union[1] which Skanderbeg had maintained in Albania did not survive him. Without Skanderbeg at their lead, their allegiances faltered and splintered until they were forced into submission. The defeats triggered a great Albanian exodus[16] to southern Italy, especially to the kingdom of Naples, as well as to Sicily, Greece, Romania, and Egypt. Following this, most of its population converted to Islam. Albania remained a part of the Ottoman Empire until 1912, never again posing a serious threat to the Ottomans. [edit] Effects on the Ottoman expansion The Ottoman Empire's expansion was ground to a halt during the timeframe in which Skanderbeg and his Albanian forces resisted. He has been credited with being the main reason for delaying Ottoman expansion into Western Europe, giving Vienna time to better prepare for the Ottoman arrival. While the Albanian resistance certainly played a vital role in this, it was one piece of numerous events that played out in the mid-15th century. Much credit must also go to the successful resistance mounted by Vlad III Dracula in Wallachia, as well as the defeats inflicted upon the Ottomans by Hunyadi and his Hungarian forces. Descendants Skanderbeg's family, the Castriots,[3] were invested with a Neapolitan dukedom after the Turkish pressure became too strong. They obtained a feudal fiefdom, the Duchy of San Pietro di Galatina. John, Skanderbeg's son, married Irene Palaeologus of the Byzantine royal family, the Palaeologus.[17] An illegitimate branch of that family lives onwards in south Italy, having used the name Castriota Scanderbeg for centuries. They have been part of Italian lower nobility. The legitimate line of George Castriota went extinct as to males within a few generations, but apparently the family continues through a Sanseverino branch. There is also a Spanish nobleman by the name of Juan Alandro Castriota who contributed a great deal towards Albania's struggle for independence. Name His names have been spelled in a number of ways: George, Gjergj, Giorgio; Castriota, Kastrioti, Castrioti, ,[7] Kastriotes, Castriot,[13] Kastriot, Skanderbeg, Scanderbeg, Skenderbeg, Skanderbeu, Scander-Begh, or Iskander Bey. Legacy When the Ottomans found the grave of Skanderbeg in Saint Nicholas, a church in Lezhë, they opened it and made amulets of his bones,[3] believing that these would confer bravery on the wearer. Skanderbeg today is the national hero of Albania. Many museums and monuments, such as the Skanderbeg Museum next to the castle in Krujë, have been raised in his honor around Albania and in predominantly Albanian-populated Kosovo. Skanderbeg's struggle against the Ottoman Empire became highly significant to the Albanian people, as it strengthened their solidarity, made them more conscious of their national identity, and served later as a great source of inspiration in their struggle for national unity, freedom, and independence. In Arbëresh poems he is not only the defender of their home country, but also the defender of Christianity. For the Albanians in Albania, a large majority of whom are Muslims, Skanderbeg is a national argument proving Albania's cultural affinity to Europe. Many have argued he was Muslim himself, although he was not. He had converted while held captive in Anatolia, but later reverted back to Christianity upon escaping. The Helmet Skanderbeg’s helmet is made of white metal, adorned with a strip dressed in gold. On its top lies the head of a horned goat made of bronze, also dressed in gold. The bottom part bears a copper strip adorned with a monogram separated by rosettes * IN * PE * RA * TO * RE * BT *, which means: Jhezus Nazarenus * Principi Emathie * Regi Albaniae * Terrori Osmanorum * Regi Epirotarum * Benedictat Te (Jesus Nazarene Blesses Thee [Skanderbeg], Prince of Mat, King of Albania, Terror of the Ottomans, King of Epirus). It is thought that the copper strip with the monogram is the work of the descendants of Skanderbeg and was placed there by them, as Skanderbeg never held any other title but “Lord of Albania” (Dominus Albaniae) The first element which commands attention is the meaning and symbolism of the horned goat on the helmet. It is difficult to assess with certainty what the horned goat might signify. It might be explained by the cult of the wild goat, the symbol of the “zana” or goddess "Diana".Note: Dhi-ana; Lady of the Goats in Albanian. The 'Z', 'D', 'Th' shift is vey common like Zeus, Deus, Theos. There are signs indicating that the cult of the wild goat is very ancient. The Roman writer and historian of the I-II century A.D., S. Suetom Tanquilli (De Vita Caesarum, L.II, 12, 94.) writes that the Roman Emperor Augustus, after putting down the Illyrian revolt of Bato, cut a coin bearing the head of a horned goat to celebrate the victory. There is another possible explanation with serious historical ramifications. According to a report by historian Shefqet Pllana, Sami Frasheri in his Kamus-al-Alam maintains that the wording "Dhu lKarnejn" (owner of the two horns) was an appellative attributed to Alexander the Great of Macedon, the very name which Skanderbeg bore in the Islamic form. This second explanation may be the truer, since the theory of the Macedonian-Albanian and Epirot-Albanian continuance is strong not only among Albanians but among all the peoples of Europe. This opinion agrees with the work of Marin Barleti who writes: “When the people saw all those young and brave men around Skanderbeg, then it was not hard to believe that the armies of [Sultan] Murat were so defeated by the Albanians. Indeed, the times when the star of Macedon shone brilliantly had returned, just as they seemed in those long forgotten times of Pyrrhus and Alexander." At the request of the pre-WWII Albanian government, an identical copy of the helmet of Skanderbeg lies now in the National Museum of Tirana, Albania. The copy was manufactured by a talented Austrian master in 1937.
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| Ervald welcome to the macedoniaontheweb. All your previous posts are directly from the Skanderbeg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . So I will use also your source. Personally I am not from those that we support Greek or Albania origin because the lack of the historical sources.All the historical sources mentioned him as Epirotan.One from your historical argument is this that came from Barleti History.Below is the front page of his biography. that I took it from your source. I think in 1968 Albanian authorities published a mail stamp with this pic. ![]() So my question if there is in that biography any reference that mention him as Albanian ? As I know he mentioned him only as Epirotan.
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| Akritas have you ever read Martin Barletius work? The context inwhich he uses Epirotian is not in anyway related to some kind of separate identity, rather in the middle ages until around the late 1800's, Albania was associated as Epirus. I cant provide you with the text, but I can provide you with the next best thing, a study of it: There have been various translations of Barletius work, one in English is entitled: Historie of George Castriot, surnamed Scanderbeg, King of Albinie; containing his Famous Actes, his Noble Deedes of Armes and Memorable Victories against the Turkes for the Faith of Christ Another in French is called: Histoire de Georges Castriot Surnomé Scanderbeg, Roy d'Albanie According to Edward Gibbons: Quote:
This is corroborated by an Albanian priest named Frang Bardhi who writes: Quote:
This is corroborated by Scanderbeg himself who replies to the prince of Taranto after the prince calls the Albanians sheep: Quote:
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He was not the only one: In Musachi's writing(An Albanian lord who now resided in Italy, Albania is named as part of Epirus: Quote:
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This a result of the Despot of Epirus. Afterwards when it crumbled Albs felt themselves to be the inheritors of the land. As for those using Disraeli as a source, well he is not a valid one. Quote:
The confusion in the sources is not there to say that Scanderbeg had any greek origin. At the time Greek did not equate Epirotian and neither did Greeks call themselves such, the common phrase was still Roman. In the west there occurred a general confusion since the people did not know the makeup of the area until relatively recently. They did not know what Epirus was exactly. On top of it all they connected the people living in an area automatically as descendants of a certain ancient dwellers there the Bulgarians were Panonnians, Albanians were Epirotians while the Yugoslavs were considered Illyrians. The fact that the word was used interchangably did not help out. The League of Lezhe as known today(lezhe is in northern Albania, as well as Kruja aswell as Mat. All areas related to Scanderbeg) was actually known as the League of Epirus: Quote:
The general concensus is that Scanderbeg was infact Albanian and commanded over Albanians. This has never been doubted by historians, only by "agendaists"... If anyone wants my sources email me. Unfortunately I cannot post HTML's on this site... |
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| Ervald you cant possiblt consider posting the entire wikipedia article on him as a feasable argument. For god's sakes the opening paragraph of that article says that he "fought for the independence of albania", which we both know is bollocks. Look at the discussion page of that article; the albanians have gone nuts there. Every second word of the article is Albanian and they have erased thing which describes him as Greek. Theodosivs said: Quote:
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very unbiased wikipedia article Theodosivs surely you can agree at least that the etymology of Kastriotis is Greek? Was his surename Hellenised?
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//bjoerna.dk Forlag /albansk-historie/ Seal-of-Scanderbeg . here is the link. If you can configure it Quote:
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| This is the link BA Forlag. Im not sure what this site is and why it has articles about Kosovo etc. It also has a link to the wikipedia article in the top left hand corner. Who is 'borrowing historical information' from whom? In regards to his seal even if it is not from the time of the Ottoman invasions and is created by his family is it not still a telling and relevant point of discussion? Who is supposed to have faked it and for what cause? This is what you beleive the eymology to be ok. The 'Greek' etymology is "Kastro" 'Castle' iotis 'man of'. Castleman. What do you think is more accepted by linguists and historians of Skanderbeis? Quote:
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| The person who placed it on wiki copied it directly from that website. I have been trying to bring it to the attention of people on wiki but nobody has noticed so far. -i is a suffix added to every Albanian male name. If it's Mehmet, we would say Mehmeti, if its Panagiot we say Panagioti. Arian is Ariani. etc. etc. Hence it was originally just George Kastriot, however Albs would say Kastrioti. Historians of Scanderbeg. the only person who commented on this was Harry Hodgkinson in his book "Scanderbeg". It's in his notes page. I would get it but right now I am not home. However I will get it some other time. |
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