Info about the Illyrians

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He was a real fascist as well.I thought so.A white supremacist albanian!Wow what is the world coming to!

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To get back on Topic regarding the Illyrians.The Illyrian helm is type of helm.

The type Illyrian helmet originated in the Peloponnese and is Greek at 7th century bc the term "illyrian" is conventional just like all terms for helms.
Terms such as Illyrian and attic are used in archaeology for convenience to denote a particulat type of helmet and do not imply its origin.

Page 60 Peter Connoly,
Greece & Rome at War

* ISBN-10: 185367303X
* ISBN-13: 978-1853673030

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They expanded to this extent in tribal structures for the most part and formed alliances and kingdomgs till they were conquered by the romans and the area with some changes was renamed Illyricum-a Roman province.

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This is the roman province with the name Illyricum and is irrelevant to the illyrians as is all post-roman conquest geographical defnitions with the name.This is bureaucratic term for an area.

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http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...essaretes.html

Olvios look what i have found out this summer in Lychnidos/Ohrid Fyrom!

The Albanians to this date claim the Dessaretes as Illyrian/Albanian but my research at the museum found out that the Dessaretes wrote and spoke in a Northwestern Greek dialect right up till the 6th c.A.D. many images found on tombstones and scripts written by the Dessaretes on stone..

Albs the Dessaretes are Greek and were always Greek!

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Data from by John Wilkes,The Illyrians (The Peoples of Europe),# ISBN-10: 0631198075,# ISBN-13: 978-0631198079,Crossland» R. A. 1982. Linguistic problem of the Balkan area in late prehistoric and early classical periods | .III.The lllyrians. in Boardman, J. ct al. (eds). The Cambridge Ancient History, 2nd edn, Cambridge, vol. 3, part 1, 839-43.Polome, E, G. 1966. The position of Illyrian and Venetic. In Birnbaum, H and Puhvel, J, (eds), Ancient Indo-European dialects, Berkeley and Los Angeles, 58-76. 1982. Balkan languages [... J.1, Illyrian. In Boardman et al 1982 see Crossland 1982). 866 76.
Wilkes, J. 1992. The Illyrians. Oxford. (Illyrian language,67-73; Illyrian names, 74-87)By "Encyclopedia of the Languages of Europe" By Glanville Price

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Illyrian migrations and relationship with proto-Celts

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Originally Posted by Teukros

Can anybody give me any info about those people,who Albanians claim they are they descendants?Is that true or a usual propaganda from them?What I know is that the word Illyria stopped being used during the late roman times and the term Albania was used the 13th century AD about 1000 years after.So what had happened to those Albanians during that time?Were they hiding or they just appeared later and have nothing to do with the Illyrians?

YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG , ARE THE STUDIERS THAT CLAIM ALBANIANS DESCENDATS OF ILLYRIANS .
ALBANIANS IN PROPER CLAIM THEY SELF DESCENDANT OF PELASGIANS !
THEY'RE PROBLEM IS THAT ONLY A FEW PART OF STUDIERS BELIVE THAT ALBANIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF PELASGIANS , FOR THESE THEY TRY TO APEARS PELASGIANS = PROTO ILLYRIANS !
IN THESE WAY THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE OF GREECE !

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Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

The Albanians aren't Illyrians I think they're of a Keltic tribe.The Illyrians had no written language so really it's anyone's guess who or what they were.If they were of a proto Greek tribe is debatable....

FIRST IS SAID CELTIC , NOT KELTIC !
SECOND ILLYRIANS ARE A PROTO CELTIC TRIBE , THAT MOVE FROM NORTHERN EUROPE TO WESTERN BALKANS .
FOR SURE THAT ILLYRIANS HAVE A WRITTEN LANGUAGE , BUT IT SURVIVES ONLY SOME WORDS .
THESE WORDS ARE IDENTICLY IN ALBANIAN AND WELSHIAN .
ILLYRIANS ARE CONSIDERED OF CENTUM LANGUAGE , AND FOR SURE LIKE ALL THE CENTUM LANGUAGES ARE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER .
ILLYRIANS ARE CONSIDERED MORE OLDER THAN GREEKS !
FROM THESE START THE ALBANIAN CLAIMS , THEY PRETTEND THAT BEFORE THE GREEK ARRIVING IN HEM ILLYRIANS LIVE IN GREECE , AND WAS THE GREEKS THAT KICK THEM TO NORTH !