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Old 08-02-2007, 08:32 AM
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Which color represents which ethnicity? The legend is not clear or legible.
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Local Trachinian men made the comment "that when the Persians finally got around to firing off their arrows there would be so many of them that they would block out the sun."

The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."
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Blue = Greek
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Euxaristo!

It seems obvious that there are many more Greeks than Albanians. Does it give population figures?
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Local Trachinian men made the comment "that when the Persians finally got around to firing off their arrows there would be so many of them that they would block out the sun."

The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."
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OPEN A RELIGIOS MAP OF SOTHERN ALBANIA , AND FOR COINCIDENCE WHAT IN THIS MAP ARE DESCRIBED GREEKS ARE SIMPLY ORTHODOXES , AND WHAT ARE CALLED ALBANIANS ARE SUNITS !!
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OPEN A RELIGIOS MAP OF SOTHERN ALBANIA , AND FOR COINCIDENCE WHAT IN THIS MAP ARE DESCRIBED GREEKS ARE SIMPLY ORTHODOXES , AND WHAT ARE CALLED ALBANIANS ARE SUNITS !!
Nope. This is an ethnographic map. Western ethnographers never used religion as an ethnic criterion/ identifyer. Greek speakers were the majority in Northern Epirus whether your Albanain historical narrative can admit that or not.
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Nope. This is an ethnographic map. Western ethnographers never used religion as an ethnic criterion/ identifyer. Greek speakers were the majority in Northern Epirus whether your Albanain historical narrative can admit that or not.

i dont think so,greek=orthodox,thats all.
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Very good report Tsontos and it comes at the most proper of times.
Whatever the solution for Kosovo is to be, the same solution must be applied for the opressed North Epirotes Greeks.
So if it is independence for kosovo then that should be for North Epirus. If it is going to be extended autonomy then equally for North Epirus.
Our A' Corps can easily pacify the area with very few involvement of our NATO s allies, and establish as such a very permenant solution with a simultaneous swift repatration of all the numerous albanian immigrant communities.
Albanian utilisation in Greece is no longer necessary as there are other groups all eastern orthodox european that constitute a better option as they do not bare a stigma simlar to that of the Albanians who having commited numerous war crimes in Kosovo they are no longer welcome, constituing a potential source of turmoil.
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Thank for this post,you made my day!

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Our A' Corps can easily pacify the area with very few involvement of our NATO s allies, and establish as such a very permenant solution with a simultaneous swift repatration of all the numerous albanian immigrant communities.
With your Nato allies you mean Turkey and Albania(from april).And i don't see any reason to "repatriate" Albanians,they are just recolonizating their ancestral pelasgian land,and maybe teaching some Albanian to their lost Arvanite brothers.
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Thank for this post,you made my day!

And i don't see any reason to "repatriate" Albanians,they are just recolonizating their ancestral pelasgian land,
Palasgain ? HA HA HA !

My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism.

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