Go Back   Macedonia Forum > General Greek History forum - Hellenic News and Politics forums > Greek Politics News Issues Forum > Epirus Forum

Epirus Forum Epirus history and politics. Ancient, medieval and modern Epirus. Epirot issues and news from Giannena


1913 Ethnographic map of Northern Epirus

Epirus Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-30-2008, 06:10 PM
Makedonia22's Avatar
Makedonia22 Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Makedonia22 äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Senior Officer
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 315
Default

So tiralb what are you? Albanian or Illyrian or Thracian or Macedonian or Epirot or Pelagsian or maybe all those?
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-30-2008, 06:12 PM
TirAlb's Avatar
TirAlb Ï ÷ñÞóôçò TirAlb äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: here!
Posts: 1,055
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makedonia22 View Post
So tiralb what are you? Albanian or Illyrian or Thracian or Macedonian or Epirot or Pelagsian or maybe all those?
Albanian of course!
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Paulos Melas's Avatar
Paulos Melas Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Paulos Melas äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Senior Officer
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 473
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TirAlb View Post

And i don't see any reason to "repatriate" Albanians,they are just recolonizating their ancestral pelasgian land,and maybe teaching some Albanian to their lost Arvanite brothers.
Again TirAlb you support all my arguments. Yes Albanians do colonising areas in order to claim them as they did with Kosovo.
I fully agree that is more than urgent to completely expel the Albanians the soonest as with their vues "recolonisation" they put in danger the peace in the whole region.
Thanks for your confirmation TirAlb thats proved beyond any doubt the dangers from the Albanians, the Talibans of Europe
__________________
"We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia."
From Kiro Gligorov President of FYROM at Toronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
From Kiro Gligorov President of FYROM at the Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2008, 10:04 AM
olvios's Avatar
olvios Ï ÷ñÞóôçò olvios äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hellas,Macedonia
Posts: 1,553
Default






















__________________
"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"

"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."

Claudius Ptolemy, The Geographer

http://www.hoplites.net/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/megist...arastashmaxon/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapsoftheancientworld/
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Hegemony...index.php?c=11
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2008, 12:53 AM
gmellos's Avatar
gmellos Ï ÷ñÞóôçò gmellos åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Officer Corp
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 546
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TirAlb View Post
Albanians,they are just recolonizating their ancestral pelasgian land,and maybe teaching some Albanian to their lost Arvanite brothers.
please make up your minds Albanians!! you can't be Illyrian, Thracian, Macadonian, and Pelasgian!! which one are you guys!!!

oh what it's option E NONE of the above
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2008, 09:54 PM
Andrew's Avatar
Andrew Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Andrew åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Most of the time Ferrara Italy , my home town is Alexandreia Emathias
Posts: 1,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TirAlb View Post
Thank for this post,you made my day!


With your Nato allies you mean Turkey and Albania(from april).And i don't see any reason to "repatriate" Albanians,they are just recolonizating their ancestral pelasgian land,and maybe teaching some Albanian to their lost Arvanite brothers.
Ancestral Pelasgian ????...TirAlb xaxa xaxa xaxa

Who says that crap ..Lou Giaffo ????

Sometimes I think that we Greeks are the only reasonable life form in the South Balkans ...
1) FYROMERS want Macedonian , Illyrian and Bulgarian heritage all in one
2) ALBANIANS want Illyrian , Pelasgian all in one

TirAlb , how about Turks ...didn't they leave something else except Moametanism ????
__________________
Μακεδῶν ἐξ Αἰγιδίου

...οἶά τε φύλλα μακεδνῆς αἰγείροιο

"...like the leaves of a very high poplar"

(Odyssey VII,106)

κακοὶ μάρτυρες ἀνθρώποισιν ὀφθαλμοὶ καὶ ὦτα βαρβάρους ψυχὰς ἐχόντων

"Bad testimonies are the eyes and the ears for persons having barbarian souls"

ΗΡΑΚΛΕΙΤΟΣ

Last edited by Andrew; 03-31-2008 at 10:01 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2008, 12:55 AM
TirAlb's Avatar
TirAlb Ï ÷ñÞóôçò TirAlb äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: here!
Posts: 1,055
Default

Quote:
Ancestral Pelasgian ????...TirAlb xaxa xaxa xaxa

Who says that crap ..Lou Giaffo ????

Sometimes I think that we Greeks are the only reasonable life form in the South Balkans ...
So Adrian Vehbiu is better?(read first pg of the thread).

Quote:
1) FYROMERS want Macedonian , Illyrian and Bulgarian heritage all in one
2) ALBANIANS want Illyrian , Pelasgian all in one
We say the same about Greeks and Fyroms and i guess Fyroms about us,so i think is a common problem of ours.

Quote:
TirAlb , how about Turks ...didn't they leave something else except Moametanism ????
Uh a lot,Bakllava,Tollumba,Llokum..etc
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2008, 07:41 AM
Andrew's Avatar
Andrew Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Andrew åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Most of the time Ferrara Italy , my home town is Alexandreia Emathias
Posts: 1,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TirAlb View Post
So Adrian Vehbiu is better?(read first pg of the thread).


We say the same about Greeks and Fyroms and i guess Fyroms about us,so i think is a common problem of ours.


Uh a lot,Bakllava,Tollumba,Llokum..etc
The only thing I have to say is that Pelasgians were a preindoeuropean population that came from Asia Minor about 8000 BC , they brought the agricolture revolution from Asia to Europe (Balkans). The were settled in all over the coastal balkan plains and when the Indoeuropeans arrived (Thracians,Greeks,Illyrians ,..etc) they absorved them.
In this way , no nation/country can monopolize the pelasgian heritage it is a thing common to all coastal balkanians ...and some say to all mediterranean people (some say that the Tyrrhenians/Etrusks were Pelasgians and later mixed up with the indoeuropean proto-Italians to form the Italian tribes... samething even in Italy).Pelasgians are a common heritage of all the Mediterraneans.

The Pelasgian question was already forgotten in Antiquity , and the ancient historians only knew that the pelasgians were a very old nation/tribe.They knew nothing else to identify them ...So I don't thing that to-day 2500 years after they were already forgoten ..someone remembered them ..does this make sense to you ????
__________________
Μακεδῶν ἐξ Αἰγιδίου

...οἶά τε φύλλα μακεδνῆς αἰγείροιο

"...like the leaves of a very high poplar"

(Odyssey VII,106)

κακοὶ μάρτυρες ἀνθρώποισιν ὀφθαλμοὶ καὶ ὦτα βαρβάρους ψυχὰς ἐχόντων

"Bad testimonies are the eyes and the ears for persons having barbarian souls"

ΗΡΑΚΛΕΙΤΟΣ

Last edited by Andrew; 04-01-2008 at 07:49 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2008, 07:50 AM
olvios's Avatar
olvios Ï ÷ñÞóôçò olvios äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Strategos
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hellas,Macedonia
Posts: 1,553
Default

Remove the off topic posts
__________________
"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"

"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."

Claudius Ptolemy, The Geographer

http://www.hoplites.net/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/megist...arastashmaxon/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapsoftheancientworld/
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Hegemony...index.php?c=11
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 08:40 AM
boreans79 Ï ÷ñÞóôçò boreans79 äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
Hypaspistes
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 100
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmellos View Post
please make up your minds Albanians!! you can't be Illyrian, Thracian, Macadonian, and Pelasgian!! which one are you guys!!!

oh what it's option E NONE of the above
Albanian have their own term to name themselves ARBON or ARBER. They dont need to borrow other foreign names.
There is absolutely no evidence to back up the theory Albanians are newcomers in Balcan and until proved so they remain the oldest ethnic group in the Balcan.
As for the Greeks:
they are not Mycenians because Mycenians are Pelasgians
they are not Ionians because Ionians are Pelasgians
they are not Athenians because Athenians are Pelasgians
they are not Aeolians because Aeolians are Pelasgians
they are not islanders habitants because the I.h are Pelasgians

but
THEY ARE DORIANS and/or HERACLIDES

And Heraclides are an ILLYRIC PEOPLE.




Last edited by boreans79; 04-02-2008 at 08:44 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stefov's grandfather?? Ptolemy Free Speech Macedonia Forum 56 09-29-2008 01:28 AM
I am still waiting for an answer from DanielMaco (or anyone else) on this one: Petros Houhoulis Free Speech Macedonia Forum 15 03-23-2008 03:20 AM
Illyrian ancestry of the Albanians? paniskos World history and politics 182 03-06-2008 06:59 AM
Albanian Attrocities. Orphic_Hymn Epirus Forum 12 10-22-2007 05:30 PM
Brief history of Epirus Ptolemy Epirus Forum 1 03-28-2006 08:36 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005-2008 Macedonia On the Web