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Old 09-05-2007, 02:53 PM
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Hahaha Napolen was an Albanian!!!! Too funny what are these Albanians going to come up with next?? Alexander was Albanian, Greek heroes from 1822 where Albanian, he was Albanian, that was Albanian and now Napolean is Albanian hahahaha.
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Hahaha Napolen was an Albanian!!!! Too funny what are these Albanians going to come up with next?? Alexander was Albanian, Greek heroes from 1822 where Albanian, he was Albanian, that was Albanian and now Napolean is Albanian hahahaha.
That shows a fascistic behavior and might cause any crisis with Greece,so it's not funny it's fucking dangerous for people to believe that crap.Just like Nazis before WW2 with their idea of the master race
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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Anyway I want to post that in Corse there was a large Greek community form people who left their homes to avoid turkish atrocities and the Greek language was the second after French that time there.A French officer of the corp that was sent in Greece to help the revolution reported that soldiers from a regiment could speak the same language as the villagers
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:19 AM
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I looked in on this new forum. Load of rubbish.

On one of their forums they had a list of famous people of Albanian descent.

According to them, just about everyone in the world is descended from Albanian stock, whatever that is. Even, wait for it.... Marilyn Monroe...........................
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:24 AM
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That shows a fascistic behavior and might cause any crisis with Greece,so it's not funny it's fucking dangerous for people to believe that crap.Just like Nazis before WW2 with their idea of the master race

The one thing I am absolutely sure of is that Greece is going to have a huge problem with these fanatics in the coming years. They are totally ignorant, believe a lot of rubbish about everything in our region - the Balkans - belonging to them, and to top it all off, they are arrogant and a significant percentage of them are criminals. Look at what they did to South Yugoslavia during the past 70 years. The Serbs were the only race the German nazis had to PROTECT because the Albanians were slaughtering them.
Need I remind anyone that the Albanians were allies with the Nazis???????????? They are also mainly muslims which means they have lots and lots of children and, as we all know, Greeks have at the most 2. Do your maths.

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Strange as it may sound the talks about the Greek origin of Napoleon Bonaparte were not initiated by the Greeks and have nothing to do with the Greek vanity. The legend about his Greek origin was born on Corsica.

Let events speak for themselves. It has already been mentioned that the Maniots left Paomia and for 44 years (1731-1775) lived in Aiaccio, the capital of Corsica. It was exactly the period when Napoleon was born and raised.

Napoleon’s father Carl Bonaparte was a close friend of the family of Panoria Stefanopoulos, widow of Permno, a supplier of the French army. Their friendship was so close that when Carl died Panoria was the one to close his eyes. Panorias daughter Laura Stefanopoulos, Juno’s wife, was known as Countess D’Abrantes. In her "Recollections" she mentioned about the details of Napoleon’s family life which Napoleon never argued.

"In the Bonaparte’s house we spoke Greek with the Napoleon’s father… Bonaparte’s ancestor by name of Kalomeros (from the Stefanopoulos’ kin) had moved from Aiaccio to the Toscana region. There his Greek name was changed into an Italian and sounded like Bona Parte, that was a literate translation from Greek to Italian.

The same happened with the Medici family, which in Italian sounded like Medici. The Medici was an influential Maniot family. Later on the Toscana Bonaparte’s returned to Aiaccio and became ancestors of this family on Corsica." Laura, the Countess of D’Abrantes, continues: "There is another characteristic case: "Stefanopoulos-Komninos" when speaking of the Bonaparte’s always used their Greek name Kalomeros, Kalomeri or Kalomerians, depending on whether they talked about one man or many men!"

In Aiaccio the Napoleon’s family was on friendly terms with other Maniot families. Before the French Revolution when the family of Napoleon was still insignificant one French professor and ambassador in Munich by name Hanin studied the genealogy of this family and wrote that the Corsican family of Bonaparte had Greek roots.

There some other facts that also support this theory. When an orphan Napoleon at the age of 15 came to Paris for the first time to continue his education he was met by Dimitrios Stefanopoulos-Komninos. This prominent Greek was known not only on Corsica but in France also. He was a brother of Panoria Stefanopoulos and a close friend of Napoleon’s father Carl Bonaparte.

Dimitrios Stefanopoulos acted as a guardian of Napoleon who at that time was a student at the Military School Briene Le Sato. It is rather peculiar that the first scholar work of Napoleon had a rather characteristic title: "Memoires sur l’education des jeunes Maniotes" ("Recollections on the unpbringing of young Maniots").

Already in his early years the future legendary general and conqueror was greatly impressed by the proud and strong Maniots whom he saw in the streets of Aiaccio. Wearing their traditional dresses, special wide pants, fezzes and waistcoats, they served in the militia of the Corsican capital and fought the local rebels.

In the years of his omnipotence Napoleon showed much milder attitude to the Corsican Maniots and enslaved Greeks than to the local Corsicans.

In Greece the version about the Napoleon’s origin was discussed for the first time after the publication of the poem "Wanderer" by Alexander Soutso in which the poet spoke about the Greek blood that ran in the veins of the great man.

They say that once Napoleon was asked about his origin (the question was probably raised due to his "insignificant" past). And the answer was: "I started my family!". (He certainly couldn’t speak publicly about his Greek origin).

Magazine "Adouloti Mani", summer of 1997, an article on Corsican Maniots

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if that is the case then WHY didn;t he appeal to the Greeks when he was raging war on the Ottomans to revolt?
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That shows a fascistic behavior and might cause any crisis with Greece,so it's not funny it's fucking dangerous for people to believe that crap.Just like Nazis before WW2 with their idea of the master race
I find it funny and I wouldnt worry too much about those savages. Nobody takes them serious. So relax their killer.....
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if that is the case then WHY didn;t he appeal to the Greeks when he was raging war on the Ottomans to revolt?

Because by then he was French in conciousness you must understand that he would have been at least 5th generation French.
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I find it funny and I wouldnt worry too much about those savages. Nobody takes them serious. So relax their killer.....

You're forgetting what happened in Kosova, South Servia.
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