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Thanks guys.. but as you'll see this child has been infected by major brainwashing.. Hell I could fill the "one liners" with her stupidity alone.. Anyway... the little propagandist continues by manipulating the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" to suit her twisted cause.. lets just note that NOT even the pseudo-state has stooped so low. Same pathetic blog, same ignorant author.. Quote:
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As noted above in this case also, Article 2 CAN NOT apply to the Cypriot government simply because the Turkish Cypriots chose not to be part of it nor be recognized as residents of it. Since 1974 they chose to be under Turkish military rule and NOT under their own government. Quote:
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. So in reality, one should actually wonder who she's debating in favor of.. Most probably be the Hellenic Cypriots that were killed by the thousands, part of the missing 1619 used as GUINEA-PIGS, not to neglect the 200.000 forced refugees.. Quote:
So the very moment they not only abandoned the Cypriot nation but unilateraly decided to form the pseudo-state, they rejected their Cypriot nationality. Accusing the Cypriot Government for Turkish Cypriot decisions is at least rediculous.. Quote:
Unlike what you have been brainwashed to believe, international recognition is NOT granted to pseudo-states formed through the use of force nor to psedo-states that have absolutely no respect to international decisions. But your hipocricy is beyond reason.. You literally spit on UN decisions which you've claimed to have absolutely no respect for, like you Turkey has also spat on UN demands of immediate withdrawal of the occupation forces, yet you dare invoke UN Human Rights Declarations when it suits your propaganda cause.. Make up your mind child, you either respect and abide by the law or have no right to it. Quote:
Now read all 30 articles and strive to comprehend them. When you finally (if ever) do, you'll find that ALL 30 OF THEM can easily be applied to the Turkish illegal occupation.
__________________ ΦΩΤΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΣΕΚΟΥΡΙ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΠΡΟΣΚΥΝΗΜΕΝΟΥΣ [Θ. Κολοκοτρώνης] I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters. The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus. Pindar αἰὲν ἀριστεύειν καὶ ὑπείροχον ἔμμεναι ἄλλων, μηδὲ γένος πατέρων αἰσχυνέμεν |
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Rachel Salomon's bigotry continues.. This time, the Macedoniaontheweb.com is her target. In her comment in the Isrealinsider website on 01/13/2007 04:05 we have the pleasure of reading. Quote:
Our objective here at Macedoniaontheweb, has always been to inform the ignorant. While we usually inform them on historic issues, I believe we can make an exception and educate R.Salomon on the english language. Quote:
but what is "propaganda" which R.Salomon clearly ignores? Quote:
Under the above definitions it is obvious that either she likes it or not, RACHEL SALOMON IS A PROPAGANDIST, spreading manipulated facts in an ill attempt to justify the illegal Turkish occupation of the island and the attempted partition by Turkey. A friendly piece of advice to dearest Rachel.. stop the propaganda an strive to obtain what you lack, which is.. AN EDUCATION.
__________________ ΦΩΤΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΣΕΚΟΥΡΙ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΠΡΟΣΚΥΝΗΜΕΝΟΥΣ [Θ. Κολοκοτρώνης] I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters. The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus. Pindar αἰὲν ἀριστεύειν καὶ ὑπείροχον ἔμμεναι ἄλλων, μηδὲ γένος πατέρων αἰσχυνέμεν |
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I want also to deposit my responce to Mrs Rachel Salomon in the below quote......... Quote:
As I see Rachel you need some historical lessons, because in order to write a article that consern history and policy the first element is one from the most substantial sources. So you claim that Greek presency were not in island before ...actually you are not specific. I leave at the moment the Macedonian issue because is know Turkey in the N#2 ally in FYROM. The n#1 ally is the US administration. So you put a book as sourse and my fisrt respone will came also from a book dear propagandist Racel .This book is written by Andrew Borowiec and the title is ...Cyprus a Divided island Here what the writer mention in the chapter 2(Legend and History) She emerged from the white Mediterranean foam near the rocky shore at Romios and for centuries her perfect shape inspired sculptors, painters and poets. She was Aphrodite, the ancient Greeks’ goddess of love, beauty and reproduction. In Cyprus, her presumed birthplace where facts and legend often blend, some also considered her to be the patroness of lust, adultery and even rape. A French tourist brochure describes her as “a gracious goddess who protects unions and fecundates households but also inflames the hearts of men, pushing them toward all forms of sensuality.” Among her most famous statues is that of “Aphrodite of Cnidos” by the sculptor Praxiteles in about 350 B.C. To this day her graceful body is depicted on myriad posters urging tourists to visit “the island of love,” now divided between two uncompromising antagonists. Few countries in the world have been subjected to the degree of violence that has plagued Cyprus throughout most of its known existence. Civilizations have left their imprint on Cypriot soil only to be replaced by subsequent conquerors. It seems that Cyprus was always coveted by hostile empires and kingdoms and by religion-inspired warriors and adventurers seeking a convenient base for military or religious ventures and trade in the Levant. The island’s cruel fate prompted a British official serving in the last days of colonial rule to note: I do not know what ancient and powerful God must have taken offence but unquestionably a long-standing curse was laid upon Cyprus. The tides of every conquering host, of every civilized nation and religion in Europe and Asia, have swept over her and their remains still stand in awesome and ruinous splendor round her shores and upon her peaks. Ancient Greeks and Romans left behind scattered relics of their often glorious past. The spectacular ruins of Salamis, once the main center of Greek culture in Cyprus, are today in the Turkish sector of the island. Of course Mrs Rachel all the above are uknown to you and this that you represent. Continue to teaching Greek to you just I want to add something that you on purpose forget to mention. THE ARCHALEOGICAL EVIDENCE. N#1 Look what mention the UNESCO regadring Paphos Paphos has been inhabited since the Neolithic period. It was a centre of the cult of Aphrodite and of pre-Hellenic fertility deities. Aphrodite's legendary birthplace was on this island, where her temple was erected by the Myceneans in the 12th century B.C. The remains of villas, palaces, theatres, fortresses and tombs mean that the site is of exceptional architectural and historic value. The mosaics of Nea Paphos are among the most beautiful in the world. source :Paphos - UNESCO World Heritage Centre N#2 In the below link you can red plenty of epigraphical texts that show the Greek presence in the sunrise of the written scripts Search Epigraphical Database -- beta version if you have problem to read them , the macedonianontheweb members have the willing to enlight you and help you dear Rachel. As you see dear Rachel you forgot to mention a lot of thinks regarding the Cyprish history and the most important that the Greek presence in the divided island by the Turkish occupiers is since 12 cent B.C. Last edited by akritas; 01-14-2007 at 06:16 AM. |
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Mrs Rachel Salamon in hers personnal blog has a propagandistic video with the name Greek terror against Muslims of course this propagndistic video expose the knownTurkish nationalostic thesis regarding Cyprus issue. Mrs Rachel below you can see what the US media TV channel FOX and present the Turkish Terror against Christians
Of course is more valuable a video from a known channel(and not Greek) that a Turkish propagandistic video like this that Mrs Rachel Salamon has in hers blog. BTW Mrs Rachel what do you know for the connection of the fashist organization "Kibris Turktur Cemiyeti" with the TC pseudo-state leaders? I mean PRO-1974 dear propagandist Rachel ? you have one week for responce dear Last edited by akritas; 01-14-2007 at 07:04 AM. | ||||||
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Although I'll get in the mud with the worst of them, when I come across a bigoted, ill-informed, sanctimonious historical propagandist like this, I feel that even the mud of the pigs we usually roll around in when dealing with the Stefovs of the world is too pristine to allow Ms. Salomon in. But all the blame is not hers. Her teachers should be fired for failing to instill in her even the tiniest bit of intellectual integrity. Now she sits back, firing whatever historical missive enters her peanut-sized brain oblivious to the facts and the potential damage they can cause. As a Jew, she, more than anyone else, should recognize the harm lies disguised as truth can cause. Is she so stupid as to believe that the methods used by Goebbels in the near obliteration of her people, are in effect, acceptable if not proper? She should be ashamed of herself. By the way, anyone interested in what the Greeks REALLY did for the Jews during WW II should look at this book: DOCUMENTS ON THE HISTORY OF THE GREEK JEWS Records from the Historical Archives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It is published by the University of Athens and considered a scholarly and accurate source by no less than the Holocaust Society throughout the world. I've yet to see the Turkish edition, Ms. Salomon.
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So you are historically inept about the "period of history that Turks slaughtered 20,000 Greek Cypriots from Nicosia " but yet you write articles about Cyprus history under the.. ironic title "Truth about Cyprus"??? More ironically the full-scale slaughter of 20,000 Nicosians from the barbarian turks is quite easily found in the net - except of course if you are a Turk or else if you are doing propaganda in favour of the Turks, somehow both of these mysteriously never find such infos - Geez, it seems Turks must pay really good nowadays!! "In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571." Cyprus - Historical Setting - Ottoman Rule |
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After being caught intentionally manipulating texts, events and quotes, she resorted to slandering Macedoniaontheweb.. Now, in her strife to regain some of her humbled ego, she resorts to attacking an entire country and people.. Hellas/Hellenes.. Lets take a look at her lastest article of hate, titled "Just Facts, Not Myths by Rachel Salomon" Quote:
As for Anne Robinson, the only thing left to say is "You ARE the weakest link" Quote:
Richard A. Patrick, an officer in the UNFICYP during the crucial period of the 1960's has written the "Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict, 1963-1971", in his book, which is considered the most authoritative accounts of the period, wrote in Chap. 3 : Quote:
1. Refer to H.S. Gibbons, 1969, pp. 2-5; H.D. Purcell, 1969, p. 324. So the question here is WHY would H.S Gibbons who in his "Peace Without Honour" published in Ankara in 1969 clearly stated that there was a Hellenic Cypriot policeman shot, MANIPULATE his original account and in his 1997 "Genocide files" present all Hellenic Cypriot policemen driving off in a car ?? Quote:
But the questions here are: WHAT happened to your fallacious interpretation of the Akritas plan, what happened to your highly respectable sources that allegedly supported your fallaciously claim that it was a plan to exterminate the Turkish Cypriot population ?? At least we managed to educate you a little and assist you in comprehending that the Akritas plan was nothing more than a political plan that would allow the Cypriots to implement what they had long desired.. ENOSIS. But while you make a step forward, you jump back into ignorant pseudo-state propaganda.. WHY manipulate Loucas Charalambous' article which mentions NOTHING remotely close to depriving Tukrish Cypriots (DO NOT deprive them of their right to bear the title Cypriot) of their rights ?? Quote:
To think that you dared to quote the Galo Plaza report yet totally ignored what he noted on the constitutional amendments. From the Cyprus Conflict website: Quote:
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The extent of manipulation and historic ignorance depicted in these trash articles are literally unbelievable.. Just above our ignorant propagandist, had totally abandoned the notion of the Akritas plan being related to killing. But, just when we thought she was finally on her way towards obtaining some knowledge, she again made the backstep towards the darkness of ignorance and returns to making the audacious claim of 'genocide'.. Next time, when you read an article, do strive to comprehend it and present the quote in whole, not just your nit-picked manipulation of it.. Quote:
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As already noted: The interview Makarios gave to the Bunte Illustrierte was given in April 19th 1973 and NOT in 1972, but that is the least that should bother us. The MANIPULATION is the reference to extermination which was NEVER mentioned hence why Mrs. Karin Kaemmereit NEVER wrote such a thing. The TRUE quote also presented by the pseudo-states so-called "ministry of foreign affairs and defence" in an article written by Osman Orek is as follows: Quote:
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Firstly, it is NOT a report but an interview with Moses Altsech. Secondly the Jerusalem Center clarifies for all you propagandists that: Quote:
Unlike the racist belief that you've been taught, Jews do not constitute a race but a religion, so strive to comprehend that your religion should not be equated to the highly racist 'anti-Semite' term you continuously use. Quote:
Interesting.. next time Rachel, present the entire quote and STOP the nitpicked propaganda posting.. While Moses Altsech's statements may be debated, at least he was honest enough to state that the escalation in crime is one of the factors for this belief. According to the official "Ministry of Public Order" statistics we see the following table of homicides commited: (only for the last 5 years) Year . . Natives . . Immigrants. . . Total ??2002 . . . . 187 . . . . 91 . . . . 278 2003 . . . . 189 . . . .113 . . . .302 2004 . . . . 193 . . . . 64 . . . . 257 2005 . . . . 195 . . . . 91 . . . . 286 2006 . . . . 112 . . . . 51 . . . . 163 From the above statistics is more than simply obvious that the immigrant population that composes approx. 7-8% (797.091) of the total country's population (10.964.020) managed to commit approx. 30% of the crime in question.. Of course these nubers change from crime to crime.. Lets just note that during the last 5 years (according to the same source) there have been some 15.000 cases of counterfeit commited by immigrants in contrast to only approx. 2.500 cases by Natives. Let me again note that we are comparing the crimes commited by a population of 10.000.000 (MILLION) in contrast to those commited by some 800.000 (THOUSAND) Quote:
But it is suprising that R.Salomon, the beyond doubt unqualified pseudo-state propagandist, now is presenting herself as a judicial expert. There is literally no other way to explain her making judgement on issues that the appointed judge and forensic surgeon have yet to address.. But her total approach is actually dissapointing. One would have expected that she, as any sane human would do, would have condemned this alleged event but on the contrary we find her exploitating a social phenomenon in her ill attempt to slander an entire country and its people.. One would wonder with what pleasure she was informed of the rape of a Hellenic mother while the daughter was forced to watch and then the rape of the daughter while the mother was forced to do the same (watch).. and yes Rachel, this hideous act was performed by an illegal immigrant of Albanian origin. But your hatred has no compramise to humanity.. Quote:
Yes the Hellenic Cypriots DID reject the Annan FIASCO.. the first question here would be if our beloved Rachel has ever read the plan and if she ever did, if she actually comprehended it!!! Lets start by hearing answers to the following: * Would ALL Hellenic Cypriots be allowed to return to his occupied home? * Would the illegal occupation forces leave the island as so many UN Resolutions have demanded? * Would they not only be allowed to remain on the island by avoiding to implement the full demilitarisation, but would also have the right to intervene after Cyprus became a member of the EU?? * Would the illegal settlers be forced to leave the island or did the plan commemorate the breach of the Geneva Convention ? * Was the plan not totally descriminatory by allowing the Turkish Cypriots to immediately return to the South while ONLY 20% of the Hellenic Cypriots could return to the North and this within the process of 25 years ? * Were all Turkish crimes of killing, looting, pilage not swept under the carpet in a clear breach of the European Convention on Human Rights?? * Were the Hellenic Cyptiots that would decide to return to their ancestral homes in the North forbidden of having children since the 6% analogy per village had to be maintained.. Is this not a clear definition of GENOCIDE as described in AUN Res. 260 d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group ? *Were these same Hellenic Cypriots forbidden from opening Hellenic speaking schools should they chose to endure this Genocide? * Did the FIASCO not provide the Turkish Cypriots with a 50-50 representation and by doing so forcing the majority into a minority status? I could continue, but the point is that by presenting the Annan FIASCO as an argument, you simply strengthen my continuous indication of your ignorance.. Quote:
The question here is can YOU imagine having your house taken from you with force, can YOU imagine being forbidden to visit your father's, mother's, grandfather's, grandmother's..etc grave to pay your respect, can YOU imagine not being allowed to go and see the lands you were raised on, can YOU imagine seeing your mother crying for 30 years not knowing what actually happened to her son, can YOU imagine being one of those mothers and hearing that the illegal occupation forces used YOUR missing son as a GUINEA PIG ?!?!?! Now that we're done with imagining, lets turn to reality.. The ONE AND ONLY reason that the WORLD has imposed such a treatment on the pseudo-state is the illegal occupation forces. Like it or not, the world has evolved and the middle age mentality of conquer and rule has been abandoned by all rational thinking individuals. If YOU and the alleged supporters actually care about the Turkish Cypriot population, its high time you showed it by comdemning the illegal occupation... Or even better, start by condemning pseudo-leaders like Talat that threaten the Hellenic Cypriots of closing the border should they continue to persist on the law suits.. WHO is the 'supporter' that would justify his banning some 10.000 Turkish Cypriots from passing into the South for work on a daily basis and by doing so deprive them of the wages they so desparately need ? Quote:
I stress you look into ALL signed or proposed treaties/agreements and especially the 5th Annan FIASCO which suddenly allowed Britain to determine territorial waters and the extent of the island's continental shelf.. Interestingly enough, Cyprus and Egypt were doing research after a 2003 agreement of exploiting resources of common interest.. The rush for the implementation of the FIASCO is obvious we note that what they found is... OIL.
__________________ ΦΩΤΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΣΕΚΟΥΡΙ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΠΡΟΣΚΥΝΗΜΕΝΟΥΣ [Θ. Κολοκοτρώνης] I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters. The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus. Pindar αἰὲν ἀριστεύειν καὶ ὑπείροχον ἔμμεναι ἄλλων, μηδὲ γένος πατέρων αἰσχυνέμεν |
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| BRAVO MEYALE!! Keep up the defense! This lady is worse than many of the Skopjians! I wonder what kind of educational background she has that allows her to make such erroneous claims about a history she knows absolutely nothing about! People like this need to be shown the TRUTH. And no they should never be ignored. To ignore them is to allow lies to spread and before one knows it the Greeks are the bad guys. This is exactly what happened when the World Powers did nothing to stop Hitler before WWII started. They talked about doing something but decided it was only a regional issue. What they seemed to overlook was that small regional issues SPREAD! Of course we all know what happened!? If they would have just stepped in earlier the whole war could have been avoided. Orphic, What is the address to her Blog? I would like to make some responses from my professional viewpoints(Archaeologists, Historian).
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