kostas68
02-02-2009, 09:46 PM
A very common Scopian propagandistic lie is that the Greek-speaking inhabitants of Macedonia before the Balkan wars were a thiny minority,mainly concentrated in Halkidiki and some other southern and maritime districts.We can read in the website of Vinozito an article signed by the notorious George Nakratzas:
At the time of the occupation of Macedonia even the figures given by the Ecumenical Patriarchate acknowledge that only around 10% of the population consisted of Greek-speaking Macedonians, while 40% were Slav-speaking Macedonians and the other 40% Muslim Macedonians.
There were also small populations of Latin-speaking Vlachs, Albanians, Jews and Gypsies. The Jewish population formed a majority only in the city of Thessaloniki.
Throughout the region then known as Macedonia Greeks were found only in Roumlouki, i.e. the area extending roughly from Katerini to the south-western corner of the Lake of Yannitsa (modern Meliki).
There were also Greeks in a part of Halkidiki, while in the prefecture of Serres they were to be found only in the coastal area of Nigrita and in the Darnakohoria. In the prefecture of Drama they were found almost exclusively in the vicinity of Doxato.
http://www.florina.org/news/2007/october29_e.asp
Leaving aside the fact that many of those Slavophones selfidentified as Greeks years before Macedonia was incorporated to the Greek state,sided with the Greek bands during the Macedonian struggle,fight and died on behalf of the Greek cause in Macedonia,i'll focus only on the Greek-speaking Macedonians and what was the most remote frontier to the north where their territory was expandend ,quoting some books that were found mainly by Chicagogeorge or me.Greek-speaking populations were residing in many other districts of Macedonia besides Katerini,Halkidiki and the coastal zone of Serres region.Let's start from eastern Macedonia.According to mr.Nakratzas and his vinozito friends,in that part of Macedonia Greeks were to be found only in "the coastal area of Nigrita and in the Darnakohoria" (my native region) in Serres prefecture while in the prefecture of Drama Greeks "were found almost exclusively in the vicinity of Doxato".Now let's see what have to say foreign travelers who visited that regions of Macedonia during the Ottoman time:
1)From G.Abbot's "The tale of a tour in Macedonia",1903
http://www.archive.org/stream/taleoftourinmace00abbo
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/serabot1.gif
How could mr.Nakratzas ommit to mention these Greeks?:rolleyes:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/southserr.jpg
Here Abbot informs us that the whole country south of Serres was inhabited by Greek-speaking people,not only the regions mentioned by mr.Nakratzas.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/abbot277.gif
So there were some Muslims in the vicinity of Nevrokop whose native language was...Greek and we can imagine why.Nevrokop is today in Bulgaria.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/meleniko1.jpg
The inhabitants of Meleniko,another city that belongs today to Bulgaria were also Greeks.Another ommission of mr.Nakratzas.There were Greek-speaking people even in districts of modern Bulgaria that are located 30 km northern of the current Greco-Bulgarian borders but mr.Nakratzas speaks about "coastal zones" as the only districts were Greek was spoken.
2)"The missionary Herald",1851
Another testimony about the Greek population of Serres:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/misher1851260.gif
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/misher1851259.gif
http://books.google.com/books?id=KcEPAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA260&dq=seres+fifteen+thousand+Greeks&lr=&hl=el
Mr.Nakratzas also forgot to mention the Greeks of Drama:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/dramaabbot.gif
Those of Kavala:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/kavala.jpg
http://www.archive.org/stream/asiajournalofa18n12ameruoft
The Greeks of Thessaloniki:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre248.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA248,M1
Edessa:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre273.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA273,M1
Naousa:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre284.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA284,M1
Veroia:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre291.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA291,M1
Kozani region:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre299.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA299,M1
Kastoria,from Brailsford's "Macedonia its races and their future":
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/brails186.gif
http://www.archive.org/stream/macedoniaitsrace00braiuoft
Grevena,from "The Baptist missionary magazine",1839
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/baptmismag1839166.gif
http://books.google.com/books?id=k09Ij3Lnyu4C&pg=PA164&dq=our+host+is+a+bulgarian&lr=&hl=el#PPA166,M1
Well,it seems that Nakratzas and his vinozito budies forgot to mention a lot of Greek-speaking regions that existed in Macedonia before the Balkan wars.
At the time of the occupation of Macedonia even the figures given by the Ecumenical Patriarchate acknowledge that only around 10% of the population consisted of Greek-speaking Macedonians, while 40% were Slav-speaking Macedonians and the other 40% Muslim Macedonians.
There were also small populations of Latin-speaking Vlachs, Albanians, Jews and Gypsies. The Jewish population formed a majority only in the city of Thessaloniki.
Throughout the region then known as Macedonia Greeks were found only in Roumlouki, i.e. the area extending roughly from Katerini to the south-western corner of the Lake of Yannitsa (modern Meliki).
There were also Greeks in a part of Halkidiki, while in the prefecture of Serres they were to be found only in the coastal area of Nigrita and in the Darnakohoria. In the prefecture of Drama they were found almost exclusively in the vicinity of Doxato.
http://www.florina.org/news/2007/october29_e.asp
Leaving aside the fact that many of those Slavophones selfidentified as Greeks years before Macedonia was incorporated to the Greek state,sided with the Greek bands during the Macedonian struggle,fight and died on behalf of the Greek cause in Macedonia,i'll focus only on the Greek-speaking Macedonians and what was the most remote frontier to the north where their territory was expandend ,quoting some books that were found mainly by Chicagogeorge or me.Greek-speaking populations were residing in many other districts of Macedonia besides Katerini,Halkidiki and the coastal zone of Serres region.Let's start from eastern Macedonia.According to mr.Nakratzas and his vinozito friends,in that part of Macedonia Greeks were to be found only in "the coastal area of Nigrita and in the Darnakohoria" (my native region) in Serres prefecture while in the prefecture of Drama Greeks "were found almost exclusively in the vicinity of Doxato".Now let's see what have to say foreign travelers who visited that regions of Macedonia during the Ottoman time:
1)From G.Abbot's "The tale of a tour in Macedonia",1903
http://www.archive.org/stream/taleoftourinmace00abbo
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/serabot1.gif
How could mr.Nakratzas ommit to mention these Greeks?:rolleyes:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/southserr.jpg
Here Abbot informs us that the whole country south of Serres was inhabited by Greek-speaking people,not only the regions mentioned by mr.Nakratzas.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/abbot277.gif
So there were some Muslims in the vicinity of Nevrokop whose native language was...Greek and we can imagine why.Nevrokop is today in Bulgaria.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/meleniko1.jpg
The inhabitants of Meleniko,another city that belongs today to Bulgaria were also Greeks.Another ommission of mr.Nakratzas.There were Greek-speaking people even in districts of modern Bulgaria that are located 30 km northern of the current Greco-Bulgarian borders but mr.Nakratzas speaks about "coastal zones" as the only districts were Greek was spoken.
2)"The missionary Herald",1851
Another testimony about the Greek population of Serres:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/misher1851260.gif
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/misher1851259.gif
http://books.google.com/books?id=KcEPAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA260&dq=seres+fifteen+thousand+Greeks&lr=&hl=el
Mr.Nakratzas also forgot to mention the Greeks of Drama:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/dramaabbot.gif
Those of Kavala:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/kavala.jpg
http://www.archive.org/stream/asiajournalofa18n12ameruoft
The Greeks of Thessaloniki:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre248.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA248,M1
Edessa:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre273.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA273,M1
Naousa:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre284.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA284,M1
Veroia:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre291.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA291,M1
Kozani region:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/tranorgre299.png
http://books.google.com/books?id=TFAMAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=travels+in+northern+greece&lr=#PPA299,M1
Kastoria,from Brailsford's "Macedonia its races and their future":
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/brails186.gif
http://www.archive.org/stream/macedoniaitsrace00braiuoft
Grevena,from "The Baptist missionary magazine",1839
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/kostas68/baptmismag1839166.gif
http://books.google.com/books?id=k09Ij3Lnyu4C&pg=PA164&dq=our+host+is+a+bulgarian&lr=&hl=el#PPA166,M1
Well,it seems that Nakratzas and his vinozito budies forgot to mention a lot of Greek-speaking regions that existed in Macedonia before the Balkan wars.