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Minimalistix
08-06-2006, 03:56 AM
this proposed Greater Albania hurts me alot knowing how much of Greece they claim, but also because of how they want the island of my dads birth, Kerkira (Corfu) which has never been historically OR ethinically (like the rest of Epirus) Albanian, yet they still want to lay claim to it!

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Greater Albania

The term Greater Albania or Great Albania is a political movement through recent history to unite all ethnic Albanians into one entity. Its equivalent in Albanian - Shqipƫria e Madhe - is rarely used, usually in translations. The term notes a desire for territorial expansion.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Ethnic_albania.jpg/403px-Ethnic_albania.jpg

full article and source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Albania

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
08-06-2006, 07:15 PM
Excellent post. Minimalistix. This is something I've been hearing about for a while, but the island part is new to me. Listen guys, its like this, if we gave in to all the calims by everyone, there would be a tiny part of the Peloponese left to Greeks, actually, that TINY part, may not really be a reality either. Lets be clear, other ethnicities, etc.. not only lay claim to Hellas but to Hellenism itself. Look at the Black Athena thread.

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/anti-greek-macedonia-propaganda/148-black-athena.html

Look at the Albanians themselves, some actually believe that Alexander was Albanian. They are as ridiculous as the Skops. What is really crazy on the Skops part is this, they look at the Hellenes as the enemy and the devil. Are they insane as to think the Albanians are going to play nice with them. I think in Skopville itself, although crazy anti-Hellen, they know they don't want to get into it with the Albanians, they will not play nice.

pankration
08-07-2006, 03:06 AM
The Albanians are a third world country that has little going for it. Its various governments have beat the people down for decades and what little they have they need for survival so it is not surprising that the propagandists are out in force.
As for Corfu (Kerkira to Greeks) its GNP is probably greater than all of Albania's no wonder they want it.

olvios
08-07-2006, 03:33 AM
I have spoken to young albanians and this map is like god to them they believe that ancient greeks did not exist and that we must be anihilated completely so they will create the real albania that will include most of greece.

HellenicPride
08-07-2006, 05:40 AM
Albanians are not Eurpean period. So I really dont know how they can see their and back up their hilarious claims. Albanians are Azerbaijan people a Turkic people. They are backwards and primitive and they will always remain that way.

olvios
08-07-2006, 06:26 AM
They will attack in terrorist manner (they have attacked already) and will attack again .

Minimalistix
08-07-2006, 07:39 AM
proof Albanians are an Azerbaijan people

look at the top right

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Kurdish_Kingdoms_of_Corduene-Sophene.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/StraboArmenia.jpg/797px-StraboArmenia.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Persian_gulf_sasanian_empire.gif

Ervald
01-19-2007, 08:14 AM
Albanians are not Eurpean period. So I really dont know how they can see their and back up their hilarious claims. Albanians are Azerbaijan people a Turkic people. They are backwards and primitive and they will always remain that way.

no im not in matter of fact im sure im more european than you :)

kalh sou mera

Ervald
01-19-2007, 08:15 AM
albanian were an Illyrian tribe, many countries were called Albania,

Scotland was called Albania also etc

Alban=celto/latin word, of celtic origin

alba=white etc

Read some history before playing with serbian maps!

Euklid
01-19-2007, 08:48 AM
Kalimera Ervald, kai kalos irthes.

You know, the same way the Skops are nationalists, the same way the Albanians are dreaming of a greater Albania...and believe that Alexander was Albanian.

He, The same way some Greeks consider the Albanian's As Turco-Mongols.

Ofc, as you propably already know since you live in Greece, our people and your people and getting to know each other, and they are working out great in Greece.

Most of these super-theories come from the diaspora as most of the crazy theories generally.

HellenicPride
01-19-2007, 02:11 PM
no im not in matter of fact im sure im more european than you :)

kalh sou mera


I seriously doubt that Albo your a mongol slav mixed people so dream on.

HellenicPride
01-19-2007, 02:13 PM
Kalimera Ervald, kai kalos irthes.

You know, the same way the Skops are nationalists, the same way the Albanians are dreaming of a greater Albania...and believe that Alexander was Albanian.

He, The same way some Greeks consider the Albanian's As Turco-Mongols.

Ofc, as you propably already know since you live in Greece, our people and your people and getting to know each other, and they are working out great in Greece.

Most of these super-theories come from the diaspora as most of the crazy theories generally.


Yeah go play with your brothers the Albanians and get to know eachother even better!

Euklid
01-19-2007, 03:19 PM
:laugh: .......:nono:

This attitude is the worst piece of shit that must be cleaned.

HellenicPride
01-19-2007, 03:35 PM
My attitude you cant be serious. Im not the one befriending Albanians who helped Turks slaughter Greeks and who have their eyes set on Greek lands. Like I said go and play with your Albanian brothers. If Greece was full of people like you their would be no Greece left.

MakedonasGR
01-19-2007, 04:07 PM
I think Albania is not real a Prob for Greece.

The own Prob for Greece is USA

Ciao Amigos

Euklid
01-19-2007, 05:15 PM
These threads deserve nothing, and the language used works negatively.

This comes first and then any befriendships. Or whatever.

This is very wrong image.

akritas
01-19-2007, 05:31 PM
You are right:angry:
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