Epirot Maps

[PAO123]

Does anyone have some maps proving that Epirus was always part of ancient Greece. Thanks.

[Tsontos]

http://home.triad.rr.com/warfford/ancient/grkmap.jpg

home.triad.rr.com/warfford/ancient/grkmain.html

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jenkinsm/Map-Ancient%20Greece.jpg

www.u.arizona.edu/~jenkinsm/phil260resources.html

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/beginnings_hist_greece.jpg

www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/greece.html



Medival map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/09/ShepherdByzempire1265.jpg


Map, The Byzantine Empire, 1265. The Historical Atlas, William R. Shepherd, 1911.

[Ptolemy]

Some ethnographic stats from North Epirus.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/technotut/hpeirosstats1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/technotut/hpeirosstats2.jpg

1913
16,682 Greeks
10,951 Albanians
27,633 Total

[akritas]

Does anyone have some maps proving that Epirus was always part of ancient Greece. Thanks.
Ptolemaic Map of 1480.It shows clearly Epirus as part of Greece.Located now in Benaki museum

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1823/mapofgreece1480benakimuseumakritastl7.jpg

[olvios]

olvios300 - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/) scroll down

There maps of greece here with epirus and macedon please put them in the multimedia section as well as i dont have an account.

[olvios]

More here and one of the campaign of pyrrhus

Maps of Ancient Greece - a photoset on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/sets/72157600180650809/)

[olvios]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/EPIRUS.jpg?t=1180697312
References
1. ^ Apollodorus, Library, 1.2.7 [1]
2. ^ Homer, Iliad, 18.35 [2]
3. ^ Hesiod, Theogony, 240 [3]
4. ^ Hyginus, Fabulae, Preface [4]
5. ^ Apollodorus, Library, 2.1.5 [5]
6. ^ Hyginus, Fabulae, 163 [6]
7. Parthenius, Love Stories, XXXII: The Story of Anthippe. [1]
8. Euripides. The Bacchae.

[Cadmus]

Hi Olvios!

According to maicar:

After having many children, Cadmus and Harmonia 1 left Thebes in order to defend the Encheleans, a people leaving in southern Illyria, which is the region north of Epirus, and there defeated the Illyrian intruders. During their absence, their son Polydorus 2 became king, but it is also said that Pentheus 1, son of the Sparti Echion 2 and Agave 2, daughter of Cadmus, succeeded him on the throne.

Agave 2 herself married King Lycotherses of Illyria, whom she murdered, handing the kingdom over to her father.

Now this Agave gained territory in Illyricum by killing the mysterious Lycotherses (he must be one of the proto Illyrian kings even preceding Dardanus/Illyrius ....in what time date should we place the Cadmus and Harmonia and their children era? 6000 b.c. as alledgedly Dionysos was born in the same time?? If that old the Lycothersus king must had been a proto Illyrian king as in one of the first of the dynasty.)

Agave could have ruled the Epirotic territory after Thebes and the Encheleans....but that is a whole other topic...as you know:)

[Flipper]

Haha, nice presentation Olvios!

[olvios]

Albanians say in their propaanda sites that epirus is just a geographic term and has no other affilitations with Greece.This is false of course.

[olvios]

IN GREEK
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/EPIRUSGR.jpg?t=1180807589

[olvios]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/Apeiros.jpg

[olvios]

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/free-speech-greek-forum/1965-pelasgians.html
The Hellenes and the pelasgi are one and the same
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/490978306_01386e6e06.jpg?v=0
Herodotus, The Histories (ed. A. D. Godley)

LVI. When he heard these verses, Croesus was pleased with them above all, for he thought that a mule would never be king of the Medes instead of a man, and therefore that he and his posterity would never lose his empire. Then he sought very carefully to discover who the mightiest of the Greeks were, whom he should make his friends. [2] He found by inquiry that the chief peoples were the Lacedaemonians among those of Doric, and the Athenians among those of Ionic stock. These races, Ionian and Dorian, were the foremost in ancient time, the first a Pelasgian and the second a Hellenic people. The Pelasgian race has never yet left its home; the Hellenic has wandered often and far. [3] For in the days of king Deucalion1 it inhabited the land of Phthia, then the country called Histiaean, under Ossa and Olympus, in the time of Dorus son of Hellen; driven from this Histiaean country by the Cadmeans, it settled about Pindus in the territory called Macedonian; from there again it migrated to Dryopia, and at last came from Dryopia into the Peloponnese, where it took the name of Dorian.2

And for the 10000000th time the illyrians are not pelasgic since they came here at 1000-1300 bc.And you are not illyrians.

[olvios]

Flickr: Photos from MapsoftheANcientWOrld (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapsoftheancientworld/)
Even more maps on Ancient Greece

[olvios]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/olvios300/LingGr2007.jpg