Nεα Σκοπιανη προκληση - Ο Τρωες ηταν ΣΛΑΒΟΙ

[Vasot]

Ενάντια σε κάθε σοβαρή ιστορική μελέτη, ενάντια στα ευρήματα της αρχαιολογίας, οι Σκοπιανοί επιμένουν ότι είναι οι κατ’ ευθείαν απόγονοι του Μεγάλου Αλεξάνδρου!
Επιχειρώντας, λοιπόν, να δώσουν επιστημονική χροιά και βάση στους ανιστόρητους ισχυρισμούς τους, έχουν προχωρήσει σε τέτοιες τερατολογίες που είναι αδιανόητο να συλλάβει ανθρώπινος νους! Έφθασαν στο σημείο να γράφουν ότι έχουν αποκρυπτογραφήσει την Γραμμική Α και ότι αυτή είναι… σλαβική γλώσσα!

Η δε σύγχρονη «λόγιος» Μπελτσέφσκι έχει γράψει μελέτη σύμφωνα με τη οποία η Ιλιάδα και η Οδύσσεια είναι γραμμένες σε μια πρωτοσλαβική διάκεκτο πολύ κοντά στην λεγόμενη σλαβομακεδονική !!!!!!!
Όπως λοιπόν ισχυρίζονται μεταξύ άλλων καθηγητές της ιστορίας των Πανεπιστημίων τους, εξετάζοντας τα πολιτιστικά στοιχεία οι Τρώες ήταν ένας σλαβικός λαός! Μάλιστα ο ιστορικός Αλέξανδρος Ντόνσκι γράφει ότι διαβάζοντας κανείς την περιγραφή του κάστρου της Τροίας, όπως αυτή υπάρχει στην Ιλιάδα του Ομήρου, έχει την εντύπωση ότι περιγράφεται μία σλαβική πόλη! Δεν τους έφθαναν όμως οι Τρώες. Σλάβοι για αυτούς ήταν και οι αρχαίοι Πελασγοί καθώς και οι Παίονες, οι Δάρδανοι, οι Φρύγες, οι Ιλλυριοί αλλά και οι… Κρητικοί της εποχής του Μίνωα!!! Επειδή όμως το παραλήρημά τους δεν έχει όρια, μιλούν για λείψανα αρχαίων επιγραφών, τα οποία «αποδεικνύουν» τους ισχυρισμούς τους. Ιδού μερικά από τα ονόματα των περιφήμων αυτών «ιστορικών», που γράφουν αυτές τις παλαβομάρες: Βασίλ Ιλίοφ, Σεργκέι Ρατζίκοφ, Ματέι Μπορ, Άντονι Άμπροζιτς κλπ. Έφθασαν στο σημείο οι άνθρωποι να γράφουν ότι έχουν αποκρυπτογραφήσει την Γραμμική Α και ότι αυτή είναι… σλαβική γλώσσα! Η δε σύγχρονη λόγιος Μπελτσέφσκι έχει γράψει μελέτη σύμφωνα με τη οποία η Ιλιάδα και η Οδύσσεια είναι γραμμένη σε μια πρωτοσλαβική γλώσσα πολύ κοντά στην λεγόμενη σλαβομακεδονική!

Όσο για τους Αχαιούς, αυτούς δεν τους θεωρούν δικούς τους. Σύμφωνα με τις τερατολογίες τους μάλιστα η Πελοπόννησος είχε κατοικηθεί από Αιγύπτιους, Αιθίοπες και Αφρικανούς!!!

[TALOS]

[Μόνο τα ελληνικά επιτρέπονται εδώ]

[Makedonomaxos2008]

Δεν το ξέρατε ρε παιδιά;;;

Επίσης ανακάλυψαν την Αμερική... πολλά χρόνια πριν τον Κολόμβο... ενώ οι αχριτέκτονες των σκοπίων ήταν αυτοί που έφιαξαν τα σχέδια για το σινικό τείχος!!

[Andrew]

Μάλιστα ο ιστορικός Αλέξανδρος Ντόνσκι γράφει ότι διαβάζοντας κανείς την περιγραφή του κάστρου της Τροίας, όπως αυτή υπάρχει στην Ιλιάδα του Ομήρου, έχει την εντύπωση ότι περιγράφεται μία σλαβική πόλη

Μάλλον ο Don(s)k(e)y «κουμπώνεται»με LSD όταν διαβάζει αρχαία κείμενα. Όταν αρχίζει η επήρεια βλέπει Σλάβους και πράσινα ανθρωπάκια παντού

:D:D:D:jump::headbonk:

[Ariadni_Nefeli]

Εγώ προτείνω να αφήσουμε αλβανους, σκοπιανους και τούρκους να σκοτωθουν μεταξύ τους για τα ωραία μάτια μας!:p

[Flipper]

Παιδία αυτό είναι το καλύτερο απ'όλα! To έγγραψε ένας γείτωνας όταν πήρε βαριά ναρκωτικά, μετά τις απαντήσεις που του έδωσα. By the power of Maaaaa! LOL



It takes a lot of time to prove a point, and a lot of love for humanity to be able to see the truth. It is pointless to do it in front of people who would not even think of accepting anything else but what their policy makers have determined to boost their pride, vested in supposed objectivity, to a viewpoint that is dying out. A viewpoint that has damaged the world to a great extent, that we as humans living in this new era, should learn from and do better than those before us. It is still a shame for many not to be able to see the light of the new world descending from the highest of all human endeavors. It is the light that once the Macedonians gave to the world uniting it as one, under a single cosmopolitan umbrella. The Macedonians are again calling for the world to listen and see the truth behind the veil and undo the wrongs that were done in the past. Therefore, I depart from this assembly with only this more to say:

Ma'at and Ishfet-Macedonia and Greece



In the ancient times Egypt was the Sun Kingdom and the Jewish hoards their Ishfet! Let me clarify, in those times civilizations were created on several places in the world: Tibet, Egypt, Macedonia, the Andes... However, due to climate changes, there were migrations of hoards, looking for better pastures! The Kingdoms were created upon a heroic lineage! In other words you had to have a descendant of a God to establish a Kingdom, in any other case you are just a hoard, or tribe!

The history of Egypt is divided in several stages, which are fairly different! However there is a drastic change in cultural life during the Second intermediate period! Apparently before 1650 BC the Egyptians lived peacefully and in accordance with the Sun god, a culture they called Ma'at!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'at

"Ma'at as a principle was at least partially codified into a set of laws, and expressed a ubiquitous concept of correct from wrong characterized by concepts of truth and a respect for, and adherence to, this divine order believed to be set forth by her at the time of the world's creation. This divine order was primarily conceived of as being modeled in various environmental, agricultural, and social relationships."

In the 1650's BC the Hebrew tribes invaded Egypt, in search for pastures! This is even recorded in the Bible with the story of Joseph in Egypt! The Hebrew tribes took over one part of Egypt and forced the Pharaoh to relocate its seat to Thebes!

"Around 1650 BC, as the power of the Middle Kingdom pharaohs weakened, Asiatic immigrants living in the Eastern Delta town of Avaris seized control of the region and forced the central government to retreat to Thebes, where the pharaoh was treated as a vassal and expected to pay tribute.[42] The Hyksos ("foreign rulers") imitated Egyptian models of government and portrayed themselves as pharaohs, thus integrating Egyptian elements into their Middle Bronze Age culture."

These "foreign rulers" or Hyksos as a term can be traced down in Coptic as a phrase that means: "Desert Princes". As we know from the Bible the Jewish spent a lot of time in the desert! Egypt lived in the Ma'at principle and were therefore non-violent and allowed these foreigners to settle in their territory which caused the decline of the Egyptian rule and the relocation of the seat of the Pharaoh! The new principle of rule, based on lucid territorial theft by imitating the system of the Ma'at in Egypt became known as Ishfet! Ma'at and Ishfet! This is the blueprint of any civilizational clash in history of mankind!

This was the first time the Ma'at kingdom of Egypt, also known as the Sun Kingdom of Egypt, met the "shadow of Ishfet". The main antidote to the Sun god of Egypt was the snake Apophis! IT was the carrier of the Ishfet! Ishfet was opposite of any principle of Ma'at!

The reason I am telling this is that the House of Macedon was another heroic lineage of the Sun god! It was a Ma'at Kingdom! In fact, in the Rosetta stone the Macedonians are literally described as "the children of Ma"! Alexander was welcomed as a Sun God in Egypt when he took it from the Persian! The Macedonian codex which later became the Justinian Law or Roman Law, created upon traditions and customs of the Emperor's native folks, and we know he came from Skupi, or Skopje! This codex has been our legacy since the most ancient of times since we are descendants of a heroic lineage! It is woven in our traditions, songs, dances, respect for all, love of freedom, human rights, equality through diversity!

The Macedonian identity is that of cosmopolitanism! It was Alexander's legacy ever since he mixed 10 000 of Macedonian men with Persian women! The most famous wedding ceremony of all times!!! We have the responsibility to carry on with the Ma'at principle of: "truth, order—law, morality, and justice (sometimes personified as a goddess)". Our Justice must prevail against the Ishfet that has been given to us! Who do you think is the Macedonian Ishfet, if the Hebrew tribes were for the Egyptians? Could it be that the Doric tribes who invaded the Balkans and destroyed the Mycenaean and Minoan civilizations, which were the predecessors of the House of Macedon! After all the Qumran scrolls reveal that the mythical fathers of the Macedonians were Myce, Mino, and Makedon! The Doric tribes introduced what was to be known as the Greek Dark Ages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_dark_ages

During that time: "The writing of Greek language appears to cease."

And it goes further:

"The Greeks of the Dark Age lived in fewer and smaller settlements suggesting famine and depopulation."
"The palace centers and outlying settlements of the Mycenaean’s highly organized culture began to be abandoned or destroyed."
"The kingdoms and elaborate systems of the Mycenaean culture were gone."
"Many explanations attribute the fall of the Mycenaean civilization to environmental catastrophe combined with a Dorian invasion. Whatever the reason, there was an irrevocable systems collapse which resulted in the complete failure of two civilizations in the Eastern Mediterranean region."

"In the Dark Ages after the collapse of the palace cultures, there were no more monumental stone buildings, writing ceased, vital trade links were lost, and towns and villages were abandoned. The population of Greece fell and the world of organized state armies, kings, officials, and redistributive systems disappeared."

And these facts reveal the pack mentality that replaced the Ma'at one!

"Greece in this time was divided into independent regions known as demos. A demos contained the main town and outlying settlements. The title of a war leader in this time was basileus; such a leader was not quite a king, but held a position of power with a limitation of his powers over others."

"The syllabary of the Mycenaean Linear B script was replaced with a new alphabet system, adopted from the Phoenicians. The Greeks adapted the Phoenician alphabet, notably introducing scripts for vowel sounds and creating the first truly alphabetic (as opposed to syllabic) writing system. The adapted alphabet quickly spread throughout the Mediterranean and was used to write not only the Greek language, but also other languages in the Eastern Mediterranean. As Greece sent out colonies west towards Sicily and Italy, the influence of their new alphabet extended further."

"Most Greeks did not live in isolated farmsteads but in small settlements. Law was customary and most disputes were resolved by the village chieftain (basileus) or a simple council of elders. Murder was a private affair with settlement through material compensation or exile."

This all caused a new period in Greece known as Archaic! Since the Archaic period followed the Greek Dark Ages, and saw significant advancements in political theory, and the rise of democracy, philosophy, theatre, poetry, as well as the revitalization of the written language (which had been lost during the Dark Ages), the term archaic was extended to these aspects as well.

The newly arrived Doric tribes who destroyed the two kingdoms established a new rule, since they could not provide the lineage, and they called it democracy! It was the city-states that started developing on these grounds that later saw themselves as civilized in comparison with the barbaric Macedonians to the north, who were still followers of the "old system", while the Greeks saw themselves as modern and civilized and democratic! It was this vision of democracy that has blinded the western mind in the 19th century, which proved beneficiary to Greece and so devastating to Macedonia!

The difference between the city-states ruled by a pack mentality or Ishfet, and the Sun God mentality of the Ma'at in the Kindom of Macedon was that of "democracy" (based on slavery and discrimination), and monarchy based on a heroic lineage and a Ma'at mentality!

Let me remind you that today some scholars have detected a lot of proto Slavic words in Homer's works. And we know he described events from before the Dorian invasions! There are lot of words that are still in use in modern day Macedonian that can be found in Homer's original work! They are written with the Greek script, but at that time it was not Greek, it was Phoenician! Used by many! As with the Demotic! IF we look at all this it turns out that what happened to Egypt, which had devastating consequences on the whole of the western civilizations (something we can discuss further, since we are talking about heroic lineages and they have a story of their own to tell), happened to Macedonia as well! Both Egypt and Macedonia were the Kingdoms of Ma'at and were created in a heroic age, only to be interwoven with the shadows, the packs or the desert princes, and thus create this fusion of lights and shadows that we call our world today! Similar thing is happening between Tibet and China.

By the way have you seen the Tibetan flag:

http://www.savetibet.org/images/images/TibetFlag.gif

And since history repeats itself, all we need to do is take a deep look in it and recognize the patterns. IN that way we can prevent unwanted events from repeating to us and thus heal our karma! The best way to heal one's karma is to love and forgive! And since we hold the legacy of "this divine order that we should remodel in accordance to various environmental, agricultural, and social relationships", we should realize that those who took over our land and history, similarly to "the Hyksos ("foreign rulers") who imitated Egyptian models of government and portrayed themselves as pharaohs", are imitating our Ma'at! They are trying to learn how we are doing it! My dear Macedonians let us show them then! Let us show the Macedonian love and forgiveness for all that the Greek Ishfet has done to the Macedonian Ma'at! Let us open our hearts and allow them to help those in the shadow see the true light of the Sun! The time is closing up! We need to be truthful to our teachings!

It was the Macedonians who preached the Gospel in the New Testament! Marco, Luke, Philip and even Mary Mary Magdalene, who was Philip's sister, were ethnic Macedonians not Greeks! Marco was never a Greek name, neither was Luka nor Philip! The man who appeared in St.Paul's dream was a Macedonian, and Lydia the first European to be Christened was also Macedonian! Why Macedonians! Why the children of Ma? Why were we the Word-bearers, to give the light to many who have derived from us in the past and maybe even wandered away from the flock! We have done it many times, why not now! Do not detest the Greeks, detest their ignorance! Love the people who have done you harm, after all that is what Christ teacher us! That is that way dear children of Ma! Follow it!

[kostas68]

Oh,no,not again an Albano-Scopian dispute!!!
Helios you don't seem to follow that advice !!!!
So far you said that : Albanians , Tyrrhenians , Carthageans , Trojans , Romans etc are the same thing ..right ??
Tyrhenians, Troyans, Romans, Albans YES
Toulahiston auti ti fora oi gaidaroi de malonoun sto diko mas ahyrona!

[kostas68]

Παιδία αυτό είναι το καλύτερο απ'όλα! To έγγραψε ένας γείτωνας όταν πήρε βαριά ναρκωτικά, μετά τις απαντήσεις που του έδωσα. By the power of Maaaaa! LOL
Τώρα το πρόσεξα!Τι έγραψε το άτομο!!!!Αυτός πρέπει να πάει οπωσδήποτε για το χρυσό μετάλλιο!Τους έχει ξεπεράσει όλους,ποιος Στέφοφ,ποιός Ντόνσκι και ποιός Χόμερ Μακεντόνσκι τώρα,όλοι τους ωχριούν μπροστά του!Άκου εκεί,η Μαρία η Μαγδαληνή...Μακεντόνσκι!!!Μου φαίνεται θ'άνοίξουν μεγάλο μέτωπο με τους Εβραίους!

[Andrew]

Παιδία αυτό είναι το καλύτερο απ'όλα! To έγγραψε ένας γείτωνας όταν πήρε βαριά ναρκωτικά, μετά τις απαντήσεις που του έδωσα. By the power of Maaaaa! LOL

The man who appeared in St.Paul's dream was a Macedonian


Εδώ δε μπορούμε να βρούμε στοιχεία για ιστορικά υπαρκτά πρόσωπα και αυτός είναι σίγουρος για τον «ανθρωπο που εμφανίστηκε στο όνειρο του Παύλου». Πωπωπω

..τι δυτικοβουλγάρικο μαργαριτάρι είναι αυτό !!!!!!

[Hellas]

χαχαχα!! Κάτι μου θυμίζει το ύφος αυτού του Φυρομίτη... Καμμένο ανθρωπάκι που γυρνοβολάει σε δεκάδες φόρα και παλεύει για την υστεροφημία του...

Ντιπ για ντιπ βλάκας :d

[Paulos Melas]

Κακομοιροι σκοπιανοι. Κατσε να τελειωσουν το δημοτικο πρωτα και μετα ΝΑΤΟ και ΕΕ.
Μακαριοι οι πτωχοι τω πνευματι παιδια.
Γιατι νσ τους στεναχωρησουμε.
Ακομα και οι Αρειανοι Σλαβοι ηταν. Και ο πρωτος ανθρωπος στο διαστημα ηταν σκοπιανος ο Δρ. Ufofyromian.

[Dimitra]

Κακομοιροι σκοπιανοι. Κατσε να τελειωσουν το δημοτικο πρωτα και μετα ΝΑΤΟ και ΕΕ.
Μακαριοι οι πτωχοι τω πνευματι παιδια.
Γιατι νσ τους στεναχωρησουμε.
Ακομα και οι Αρειανοι Σλαβοι ηταν. Και ο πρωτος ανθρωπος στο διαστημα ηταν σκοπιανος ο Δρ. Ufofyromian.

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