Macedonia in 1813-no <Makedontsi> again

[kostas68]

Another foreign traveller who visited Macedonia,the English Henry Holland in 1812-13 didn't find any <Makedontsi>.What the hell,when did they appear?
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He went from Larisa to Thessaloniki.When he passed Litochoro(Pieria region,Macedonia),he wrote:
<On the northern skirts of the mountain are several towns and villages,some of considerable size and almost entirely peopled by Greeks>.
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And when he arrived in Thessaloniki:
<The population(of Thessaloniki)is composed of four distinct classes,Turks,Greeks,Jews and Franks>.
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[Andrew]

Kosta , can you give a better resolution of the texts ??

*** Ok .. I've read them don't worry , I found the book in the internet!!!

Damn the traveller arrived until Methoni (Leutherokhori) in horse ..and there took a ship to Saloniki to avoid the marshes of my region !!! It would be nice if he had passed from my village Gidas in Roumlouki (northeast Emathia between the rivers Haliakmon and Ludias) ...every comment of 1813 would be well accepted !

[johnalexis]

Also a good read : Come over into Macedonia by Harold B. Allen.
You can find it on the Internet.

A census in 1904 in Kozani, West Macedonia, Greece while still under the control of the Ottoman Empire, showed the following :

Greeks 12.000 Vlachs 300

"the city was pillaged by Turkish beys in 1770. A subsequent incursion by Aslan bey, in 1830, ravaged the city immensely. According to the 1904 population census, 12,000 Greeks and 350 Vlachs were living in Kozani at the time. [11]

The Greek army entered Kozani on 11 October 1912, during the First Balkan War, after its victory against the Ottoman army in the Battle of Sarantaporo. By this time, the population of the town was 12,000 Orthodox Greeks.[12] In 1923, during the population exchange between Greece and Turkey, about 1,400 Greek families from Pontus and Asia minor were settled in Kozani."


Where were the Slavs?

[johnalexis]

1845 Macedonians were considered Greeks


"Protocol of Macedonians in New Pella, written in 1845
Posted by: admin in Modern Historians, Modern Macedonian History
We have already adressed in this blog, the fact that a large number of Macedonians after the breakdown of the Greek revolution in Macedonia, fled from their native lands and scattered in the newly emerged kingdom of Greece.

These Macedonian refugees founded settlements, like New Pella in Atalanti where its evident even of the settlement’s name, the love and nostalgia about their ancestral lands.

In 20th August of 1845, a protocol was written by these Macedonians and sent later to the Greek ministry of Home Department. The infos were taken from the collection of Mr Chionidis while the original protocol exists in the manuscript section of the National Library of Athens. Its evident from the protocol, all Macedonians were of course Greeks back in 1845.

Here is the first page from a photocopy of the original paper."

full text at http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/2008/05/14/protocol-of-macedonians-in-new-pella-written-in-1845/