The idea I took from Big Takis and his signature :laugh: :laugh: . So I initial this thread with one rule.You must show the link.
Have fun with the Skopjans.


Ancient Kretans spoke (or at least big part of them) slavic dialect. Some toponims prove it (without Phaistos disk).
from Antioch

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

The Proto-Slavic of Macedonia, predates the arrival of the Greeks to the aegean, whether you prescribe by the theory they arrived around 2000BC or 1400BC.

from Paul

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=953
Mother Theresa was also from Macedonia.

from Ilir

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636&start=0

I can find better quotes from Skopjians and just as smart:



"I have written new novel called the MakCode (I liked Davinci code!). It has conclusive proof that Alexander sired hundreds of children which are all living in Skopje from DNA evidence collected by the Veterinary school in Skopje. In fact I found out that I am one of them."
Risto Stefov, Direct Descendent of Alexander the Great.



"Madonna, 50 cent, and Ice cube are all Slavic people and descendants from Macedonia. Furthermore, they are Alexander the Great's progeny."
Risto Stefov

"I went back into time machine long time ago and found out every Greek was a Bulgarian Slav that came from Russian Area. Very quickly they learned Greek from Fishes in Aegean but they were Slavs... Notice also we Slavs do not have any ancient Greek words anymore. We dont like them (maybe they disappeared), nor do we like fishes. We like water though and plan to somehow trick people into giving us the land to the sea (Macedonia, Greece) by creating a load of @#@ on the internet that some idiots will believe (including our own people). "
Risto Stefov honourary Ph.D M.D M.Sc. MBA from BS University from Skopjian Institute Highest Ranked in all villages in Skopje.


"We have conclusive proof all Greeks are Eskimoes, and Skopjians are direct descendents of Alexander the Great, although we cannot show you at this time, nor at a later time, nor never. Just believe me as I am a scholar from Skopjian Village Polytechnic and have studied the sexual propagation of Sheep." Makform secret Professor
John Doe and Risto Stefov Collaborator

The most solid evidence from Skopjian Scholars from the Amazing institute of Nobel Prize producing Scholars - Skopje:
http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=geekcrno14.jpg
Above: An original painted clay mask of a Greek man, on display in the British Museum, London. Diosopolis Parva, from the Roman Period in Egypt, ca. AD 100, showing the obvious effect of racial mixing. Alongside, his skull, also on display in the British Museum.

From the scholarly site :lol: :lol:
http://macedoniancivilization.blog.com.mk/node/1301

I guess from the Face representation from a skull thousands of years old Skopjian Molecular Biologists can tell the skin colour, that the man had a black mother, and that he ate peanuts before he died. AMAZING. :blink::laugh::rolleyes::laugh::lol:

Skopjian Logical Progression:

Spartans did not like Athenians.
Athenians thought Spartans were Barbarians.

Doesnt matter that they spoke Greek dialects, worshipped Greek gods the works! just the fact they hated each other means they were not Greek.
Therefore Spartans are not Greek and all Greek Tribes are not Greek.
(Uh thats why they were called Greek Tribes because there wasnt a Greece?)

In 200 years the Skopjians in Texas will proclaim:
We were never part of the US. Texans speak different dialect of english and like different music. Thus,
Give us take the land, and the oil please.

I never laughed so hard in my life:

http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=acebel01.jpg A detail from the Alexander Sarcophagus, showing Alexander on a horse supported by an infantryman. Alexander's hair is portrayed as blond-red, as is the pubic hair of the infantryman on the left - sure indicators of the racial types present. The Sarcophagus dates from the 4th Century BC, and is currently in the Istanbul Archeological Museum.

http://macedoniancivilization.blog.com.mk/node/1301


I really cant argue with that, thats the most influential evidence EVER to come out of archaeology. Yes the Greeks were and are Black. Whats wrong with that? Whats wrong with being black SLAVS? Are you racist?

http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=geekcrno101.jpg Three pots, dating from the 5th Century BC, showing the racial types in Ancient Greece: One is clearly Semitic, another Black. These pots are on public display at the National Museum, Athens.

Geniouses at Skopje University

Original name of Stip is ASTIBO......... With the Time it became Stibo =>than Stip

Strumica is named by the name of the River Strymon wich is Thracian name..........


Bitola according to the legend is: Some Man, Warrior named Tole, or Tolo, used the ancient technik to enter the city unremarked, to fight the Turks, and when he started, the People were saing Bi Tolo Bi gi... wich ruff translated means beat them down Tolo...

from mk(mkont)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=814

Also, it is interesting that his name is GEORGI KASTRIOT...not Gjergj Kastrioti as Albanians call him

There, they were called by the Italians Golobardani = people from Golo Brdo.

from Yannis

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1356

If we compare the word Salonica or
in Greek version as Θεσσαλονίκη( Thessalonikí) with the their official state's name
Ελληνική Δημοκρατία (Ellinikí Dimokratía )
we will noted that in bout cases the word νική (nikí) is involved

Now about the possible name's meaning of our south neighbours state?

Could we say that the possible meaning of the word
Ελληνική is :

"..gaining a victory (nike) over the Helens (in Greek) ?

from Homer MakeDonski
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1048&highlight=thessaliniki+elliniki




:lol: :lol: :lol: Well,to be sincere,i was left traumatized by this syllogism.
But you know what the wise men say."The only difference between stupidity and intelligence,is that the latter has a limit."

This Homer Moronovski guy had once posted somewhere the following and i kept it because...well its too hard to find again such an amount of unique idiocy.

Homer_Moronovski trying to explain the meaning of the word "Macedonia". Enjoy!!

Make means Mother Don could have the meaning of the World because according to the fact that one word could have more meanings than is more than officialy that in our language Zemja mean Eart ot the Planet Earth or the World Don->*Dzon->*Dzeme->*Zeme->*Zemia->Zemja-with meaning the World or Makedonija Mother's World

Don->*Dzon->*Dzeme->*Zeme->*Zemia->Zemja

only in 5 steps....

Don = Zemja ?

wow thats amazing and the proof of it all.

what will the Skopjians think of next....

:lol:

lol @ the kretans

maybe we should move this to the anti propaganda forum and pin it there

In reality all their revisionism has its humerous side. Everything from ancient macedonia to tsar samoil to the vmro to WW2 but this thread should keep the aboslute gems and one-liners only. I may as well copy my sig to this thread:


They were also women in the macedonian ancient army and also they were part of macedonian olympic games


-Antioch on maknews forum

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1361

Threska (or Threskia in Greek) is generally Slavic word.... meaning in Croatian it means the same
from Yannis (aka lier)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1338

This Homeric Macedonian speaking language was increasing and gradually evolving into a more modern language, spreding and using a distinctive dialect from which later came Russian, Polish, Chroatian, Serbian, Chechian, Slovakian, Bulgarian, and other tongues, today they are known as Slavic languages, based on the Macedonian

from Jordan Piperkata

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1247&start=0
Before 'Albanian' was standardized the Tosk spoke a language more heavily influenced by Latin. The Gheg language was more 'Ottoman'. Slavic was common to both.

Modern Albanian [just the language] is a mix of Latin [Vlach], Slavic [Macedonian and Serb], Greek [Greeks] and Turkic [Ottomans].


from Paul(aka Pelister)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
I actually believe that the oldest Slavic inscription was found in the Kostur region of Greek occupied Macedonia, and was discovered by a Greek speaking archeologist from the University of Thessaloniki, who had the ancient Slavic artefact carbon dated to about 4000 BC......
from Paul(aka Pelister)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1236&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

It was Plato (500-600 BC) that said “most gods and their traditions we have received from the Barbarians.” A few hundred years later Herodotus confirms Plato’s statement.
by Odisej Belchevsky
http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/belchevsky/belchevsky_practical_mythology1.html


I don't know i've never been there to speak with them but it's possible that the peoples of that village (KALASH) are decendants of the greeks who were in Macedonian Army(as a hostages) and settled in todays Afghanistan to don't uprise against Macedonia and Macedonians.

by Alexander the Macedon

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2814&PN=1

yes, ancien macedonians were not ethnically greek.Bu they adopted some greek customs, and they viewed greek culture as a superior one.




There is no evidence they spoke an ancient greek dialect. This is still very much under dispute. What is undisputable is that they used the greek script, as did the Thracians, because that was the only script of the time.
from bg_turk

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9874&PN=3

hahahaha!!!:lol:
:laugh: :laugh: bg_turk:laugh: :laugh:

Pella has never been found lol......that shows how much of a brain this guys can call their own :lol:

I think this antioch will be the Skopjan b""""t champion.:clap2: :clapping: Mkont and Pelister are students compared with him.:laugh: :laugh:

Paul, the old name of Voden is Vydissa-Vodi-Voden. Greeks made some varriant of it in the vord Edessa.


by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411

actually not!!! the Ultimate title of "Skopjan moron of the year" goes rightly to...

Don Zuan!!!! :worshippy

From the huge Don Zuan collection

Posted: Apr 25, 2006 3:21 AM

like you are saying Alexandros and Philippos....thats your name made by the greeks..it also has macedonian name like PHILIP AND ALEXANDAR.....and you can see that very clear from their monets (money) whit their face and everithing, and on that money its not the name Alexandros and Philippos its the names Philip and Alexandar.....and if can be proved by logic, where is your logic, logic doesnt seems anything to me, she gave you facts, now where are your facts?

This was his best post so far. Whenever i need to have a laugh i went back and read it again.

Posted: Apr 25, 2006 8:32 AM

can u read this my friend?


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1158/untitled13cp.jpg

well every Macedonian can

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

This was his best post so far. Whenever i need to have a laugh i went back and read it again.



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I dont understand. Did a Skop say that every 'Macedonian' (Slav) could read the writing?

DO you have a link my Persea?

I dont understand. Did a Skop say that every 'Macedonian' (Slav) could read the writing?

DO you have a link my Persea?

Indeed! One of these morons posted the image and claimed that skopjans could read it but not greeks. Later he understood he made an ass of himself and stopped posting images.

Its from a private group. Cant post a link.

But now i just went first time to the forum boys posted before, spent about 2 mins reading one topic and i can hardly keep myself from laughing.
You are right Akritas. That antioch guy is a natural-born moron.

Ancient Kretans spoke (or at least big part of them) slavic dialect. Some toponims prove it (without Phaistos disk). If you get the disc additionally the situation is even more revealing...

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

I think at a set date we should award one of the users on their with the award 'The maknews user with the blockest head' or something.

Antioch is the front runner for that award by far from what I can see

SOM on maknews:

"These people know that Greek was not the mother-tongue of their grand-parents and the ancestors prior, that is why they come here trying to attack real Macedonians so they can feel "hardcore" Greek, as it turns out, they all end up looking like hardcore morons and the result of it is people like whats his face claiming to be a direct descended of Plato's uncle in Negoussa."

Guys did you know all our Granparents did not have Greek as their mother Toungue?

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1415

Re sees, these monkeys should have their findings published.

Ti malakes.What else can one say.

One of the Maknews posters that I find ridiculously funny is Slovak - to him everything is Slavic and as such he really comes up with some classics. Below are some of Slovak's recent gems:

Such a Slavic name in ancient Macedonia (and later Rome) was Claudius. Klado, Klada, Hlado...
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398

Ambrozic said that Muski was how the Assyrians called the Phrygians. There are Serbian scholars who found evidence that Assyrians were Serbs-Slavs.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411

Pythagoras - Pelasgian
Pythagoras was born before Greeks occupied the island. In fact Samos in Slavic would mean the Desolate (Island).
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

Quote:
Look at the next closest city Veria. First mentioned by Thucydides as Veria.
Another Slavic word.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28223&highlight=#28223

Gaius Julius Caesar pronounced in original Kajus Julius Kaesar.
Kaesar comes from three words Ka e Sar>Kaj je Car=Kaj is Emperor.
The word Sar or Car (Tsar) is very ancient. It exist in ancient Vedic Sanskrit and is used quite frequently in ancient Russian folk tales. The theory that Tsar comes from Caesar is meaningless as Sanskrit-Slavic language proves.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26834&highlight=#26834

Name Greece derives from a Slav word gora=hill; Goraci=Hillmen. In this form it was recieved by the Romans who built their civilization on Slavic tribes of Italy. So Greece means Highland.

I just call ancient Greece 'Southern Balkans', or more precissely Morea since that was the Goraci's mainland - Peloponeese.

Pelop-Belov, neese-niz. Belov's lowland?
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25907&highlight=#25907

Before you Grecophiles get to excited, what you call Greece is called Achaia as it was always known.

The term Graeciae is what the Romans called the region. Most probably what we know today as The Balkans

by Mikail and his map. Check the map and :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THESSALONICA
THESSALY

Phillip was prisoner to the Thessalians from a young age was he not?

He waged a war against them and defeated them in battle did he not?
by Mikail
A "Homer Makedonski" derivation of where Thessaloniki get hers name.Of course Phillip,Thessalians e.t.c. are :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


all the above came from

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398&start=0

:wacko: Mikail, I read Article, excertp from Donskis book Jesus Christ and the Macedonians, where he elaborates that the first paintings(oldest one) with the Eight rayed Star on the forhead of Mother of God is found in Macedonia, IX Century(Im not sure, must look again)...

Before were no Frescoes and Icons found, thus they were new Invention in the Church..... He Elaborates that the Symbol was drawn on the Mother of God, because she paid visit to Macedonia. :laugh: :laugh:

As support of the Thesis, he gives a legend about, and points out to the fact that she was in Anatolia(present day Turkey) in some Monestry....:laugh: :laugh: From Anatolia to Macedonia is not to far, and concidering that St. Paul was first to visit Macedonia, the chance that Mother of God was also in Macedonia is Great, thus thats why, as rememberance the Star on her Head, which lately spread out through the Ortodox World with all the Painters of Ochrid Eparchy..... :p :wacko: :laugh: :laugh:

because, Russian Icons have the 8th and 16th rayed Star too, and it is well known that the wife of the Russian Duke, Olga, was baptized in Ohrid, and they invited Macedonian Fresco Painters to paint there...

from Donski via mk(mkont)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1454

Now for Antioch Phoenicians and Macedonians are related and both are Slavs. :lol: He even spoke to a "Phoenician" about it but got no response :wacko: - another time traveler!!!

Slovak, did you read my previous post in which I explain that Carthaginians were wearing macedonian battle dress in italy under Hannibal?

I try to link Macedonians with Phoenicians but no big success till know. I had a clue that Tyrrenians spoke same language as Macedonians but I can't confirm it with other sources. Its also accepted the Phoenicians spoke semitic language (on their inscriptions) but some toponims are clearly venetic. I don't get it?

I try to consider is it possible they used 2 languages. (like Macedonians). One semitic (like Hebraic) for science and literature and the second one (venetic-slavic) for usual life. I suggested this to a Phoenician but he didn't respond after it...

Antioch

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425

Newsflash!!! The 'Phoenician', antioch contacted, is now on the hospital with a serious Continuously Laughing Disorder. I doubt he will be able to respond soon. :laugh:

I just paid a visit to that forum and found this. Attila and the Huns were...slavs. How could we miss it all these years?

Attila was a Slav. Haven't you read my article on the Maknews?
http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/spevak/the_kievans.html

For God's sake people...

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1472

I agree with his last quote. For god's sake people.

Guyes I just saw that our thread was been famous in macbourda forum. Actually with the title of Arkritas (Istor, Ellinas Etc) again showing his true colors (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1496)

I don't care what Skopjans write about me (I think also and Istor) but I am sad that point me and use my name that was the one that opened the specific thread in the racistic Stormfront. And people like Maknews that carry on the same nationalistic and racistic ideas (as the majority of the Strormfront) as about the puricity of Skopjan nation and spread lies and illysions.

and back in the thread:

Komita, very simple! Byzantium is Eastern Roman Empire-occupation country.

by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40 (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40)

Dont you remember that there was a macedonian dynasty in the Byzantine Empire.Holy Emperor Justinian The Great was born outside of todays Skopje..

by Komita
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40


There sure was a Macedonian dynasty in the Byzantine Empire.Among Emperors of this dynasty one can find Nikiforos II Fokas,Ioannis I Tsimiskis and oh,almost forgotten...VASILEIOS II o VULGAROKTONOS(Basil II the Bulgar-slayer)

These gays have to options to extract some pride from falsifications:

1) Claim Tsar Samuil and his state as ethnic Slav Macedonian

2) Claim the Byzantine Macedonian dynasty, including its most famous emperor, Basil the Bulgar Slayer, who got his name fighting against Samuil as Slav Macedonian.

You CANNOT claim both.

Then again maybe the battles between Basil Boulgaroktonos and Samuil was a Slav Macedonian civil war. Uh oh what have I done. Next week we will see Stefou's "Big fat Greek lie # 300 - Basil and Samuil the civil war"

But Homer used 'many' langauges and his epic poems were written in many langauges.


by Paul (aka Pelister)
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1426&start=20

Homer Makedonski strike again!!!!


Word Helens carved into two verbs


-first one as ela or “to come here� :lol: :lol:



what's my view over the primary meaning of the word Heleni



Heleni

*H-*>X->*K`S
*Xeleni
K`S E LENI
(K)`SELENI
''`SELENIJE->migration :clap2: :clap2:
Hellas




K/SELLas
' /SELLO -village (Polises , )
' SEL -
*L->*O (palatalisation )





'/ SEL



SEO -(SEDNAL) -v. to sit;to live ;to stay

*SEL-SSEL-ZSEL-ZASEL :-ZA SEDNAL:laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :clapping: :clapping:






KAI H APOTHEOSI


I have a small pocket Latin-English ,English -Latin dictionary by S.A.Handford and Mary Herberg ,printed in Germany 1955,1966 by Langenscheidt KG ,Berlin and Munich and on page 148 we read




grates-f/pl. thanks,thanksgiving





gratia,ae f.1.a)charm,lovelines,grace;


b)favour,credit,influence,regard;;gratia inire-ab albo find favour,

c)friendship,love; in gratiam redire cum alco to be reconciled;

2.favour,kindness,courtesy,service;gratiam facere to excuse (alci alcis rei);a)in gratiamalcis to please;

b)thanks,thankfulness,gratitude,requital,recompenc e;gratias agere to return thanks;gratiam habere to be thankfull,gratiam referre to recquite,recompense; c)abl.gratia (with gen.)for the sake of,on account of,in favour of ;

d)grat(i)is out of kindness,for nothing ,gratuitously


My guess is that all of these gratefuly explainations

can be taken as rooth for the word Greece since Selloi people have had their own freedom out of Macedonian slavery after the third, 167-168 B.C. Roman-Macedonian War .























http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1501

as Perseas make a derivation of the word Slanoi


slavoi>blavoi>blakoi>blakes.

Long ago this guy had posted this one. Enjoy laughing!!! :lol:


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------
1.In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,..
In the beginning was The Word and the Word was Duma
In the beginning was *Duma and *Duma was with Bog
*M->N
In the beginning was *DoMa and *DoNa was with Boga

In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *Bagae
*G->K
In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *BaeKae
*B->M
pub37.ezboard.com/fistori...D=87.topic

In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *MaeKae
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with *MaiKae
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with *Majka
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with*MaKe


"and the Word was God. "
and *Duma was God
and *Dona was God
Dona~God

ADonai-Jews
Deon-Portugal
Dion-espanol
Dieu-France
Juma la -Finnish~*D+juma~*Djumala~*Duma~Don
Dieu-French~*Dieu(n)-*D ie N-*Don

Dio, idolo-Italian
Diyos-(lat inf), (bathala, ang lumikha)-Tagalog(Filipino)
Dumnezeu-Romanian~*Dumne-Duma

Dduw, nuw, Celi, Dofydd, celi, cheli, geli, ngheli-Welsh
Deus-Latin
D->T-TH
Theos -Greek
------------

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
-The Word was in the beginning with God
-*Don was in the beginning with* MaKe

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Dona->*Dzona-Dzomae-Dzemae-dZemae-Zemae-Zeme-Zemia-Zemja
Dona->*uDona-vDona-VoDona-Vodona-Voda
Dona->*Dzona-oDzona-OdZona-Ozon
Dona->*oDona-oGona-Ogona-Ogan

And all four elements had been created from *Dona



p.s. Take a note pls all of you who endeed do not understand Macedonian language
Note:
Mother-Majka
God-Bog
Word-Zbor-Rec-Duma
Earth-Zemja
Air-Vozduh
Water-Voda
Fire-Ogan

Then we do analyse based on coparation with some foren language area
lets say English one

If we supposed thet the letter N deaviated into the letter R via letter L
eg. viewing the word Sun
soNce - in Macedonian
soLem-in latin
suRia -in hindy language
*N->L->R
Than instead of Don -Tera as a word appearing

Don
D-*T
O-*Oe-oE-E
N-*R
--------
DON
TERA
-----------
Via Tera all of the text would be on the way :

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

-In the beginning was *Tera and *Tera was with *Make-Ma(ke)-Ma
..and Tera was God
(this part will never be explained via Tera,exept one name only Tor,as for the Scandinavians

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
-Tera was in the beginning with Ma


.
.
.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

English version


Tera-*Terra-La Ter--Earth-
Tera->*W+Tera-Watera-Water
Tera->*-T-Era-eAER-AERA-Aero-Air
Tera->*(T-P-F)Pera-Pira-Fira-Fire
All four elements are here again

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was Ma/Tera-Mater
or
Mother


In the beginning was the Word
and word was about *MakeDona


someone would prefer to say that this is 4000 years greek name based od word
makednos ,and grounding its claiming on possible conclusions done from the archeologist side ,

Archeologist , can you believe



regards


Homer MakeDonski

More from my fave pet-hate Homer-Makedonski discussions on the net. Read this one




Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"

The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".

The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.

Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.

Now go to sleep


Of course that you or anybody else can make a lot of word researches
what most of all must to be well grouded

now you have to think how you could



Well, I saw your way of providing grounds for your suggestions, and I used exactly the same method: I took it out of my arse

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

After seeing postcards of Thessaloniki.....
-One question, why do a lot of them have greek writing? I understand the presence of French and Turkish (Arabic script), but not the presence of Greek.
MKD

-i'm not exactly sure why of the Greek writing. I guess they had more influence there...Solun (to my knowledge) wasn't exactly a strict controlled city by Macedonians, you know how it was in Macedonia back in those days.
dejance
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29765#29765
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

fyromians....WAKE UP!!!!!!!

"I have written new novel called the MakCode (I liked Davinci code!). It has conclusive proof that Alexander sired hundreds of children which are all living in Skopje from DNA evidence collected by the Veterinary school in Skopje. In fact I found out that I am one of them."

I have just read through them all, but this early one is still my favorite as well as the questioning of the salonika postcards being in Greek.


Here is one of my favorites from a forum called Xtratime controlled by Fyromians. Here a vocal member no longer living in FYROM talks about his past visits to FYROM in response to a Greek suggesting he may be of slavic descent:

I dont know who you know or who you talk to, but thats not how most people think. In fact no1 in Macedonia really thinks about that issue. Ask Harry or Romanticar they can tell you. But, I do go back every 3 to 4 years and have never heard anyone say anything about being a Slav. In fact there are things being built now in Macedonia that will have Aleksandar riding his horse. I think in 4 Macedonian cities.

This isnt exaclty a one-liner but I had to post this here:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8767/bulgarianlaugh9gz.jpg

hahahahahahaha!!!!!
QUEEN CLEOPATRA PTOLOMAYOVA :laugh:
ARISTOTEL NIKOMACHOV :laugh:
KING ZEVS:clap2:

I've heard that in Struga-the municipality, there are Macedonian Muslims who write that they are Albanians...
by dejance
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1526

I read these days about a vilage in Iran which inhabitants also consider themselves with macedonian ancestry...

How many Macedonians were really spread in the world???

by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1527
Your incredibly emotional about it Imo, Solun is our spiritual capital one day all Greeks will be removed from it a great Arab Army that will conquer Europe after the anti-Christ makes his appearance will spare Macedonia. But Greece and all of the European Continent will be burnt to the ground Solun and all of Macedonia will be re-united, amen.
by Frank
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

The Illyrians were a proto-Slavic people who worshiped their sun god Iliy. In case Greeks are wondering, Macedonia - Make-don-ija means "mother's-domain", the territory where a selection of ancient "northern" proto-Slav tribes united.


Please note the presence of "Iliy" in the following words;

Civilization: Zivil-ization

Aleksandar : Ale/ile and Dar/gift (Gift of the sun god Iliy)

or: Ale/ile - San/"sonce"/sun - dar/gift (Gift of Iliy, the sun god)

Philip: Friend of Iliy (as in Phil-Hellene)

Achilles: Could he have been an Aegean proto-slav Pelasgian?

Aristotle; Totle - le - ile (at least half Macedonian)

Hellen: elle - ile - (a proto-Slavic name?)

Ptolemy: Tole - ole - ile.

And Ptole - Bitole - Bitola

Clietus: Klit - Li - ile

What about Trajan: Traj - Troj - Troy (a proto-Slav people)

Cleopatra: Cleo - leo -iliy

Following are some post 6th century to 11th AD names;

Cyril : Cyr - il (Sir/zemja/soil and il. Perhaps, fertilized soil from Iliy)

Samoil : Samo/only - il/iliy (only Iliy)

Basil : Vasil - Perhaps Vas/vash//your, as in the peoples iliy


Leo 1 : Iliy Byzantine emperor from the Macedonian dynasty
.

By Zac I -Australia

ILLY ILLY KAI TRIS-ALLYYYYYYYY:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


The name Greece is derived from the Slav word "gora" which in English means "hill"; Goraci=Hillman.

I believe it was received in this form by the Romans who built their civilization on the Slavic tribes of Italy.

So Greece means Highland. I just call ancient Greece 'Southern Balkans', or more precisely Morea since that was the Goraci's mainland - Peloponnesus.

Pelop-Belov, neese-niz. Belov's lowland?


By Slovak

Slovak is characteristic Pan-Slavic brainwash believer.:lol:

you know that ily stuff (êáöÃ�ò ðñÃ�ðåé Ã*á åßÃ*áé) that they sell in greece? :D

Yes and if the Skopjans read this thread will say that the Proto- Slav ic presence is alive.
BTW Illi mean Thee mou!!!!!Aramaika
my Illi and not the Skopjan Illy:laugh:

:clap2:Skopjans you are tottaly brainwash!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :laugh:

A skop in a german forum said that they found "ancient macedonian writings inside the bosnian pyramids :D " he also says that this is evidence that they were slavs :D

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News_files/image10681.jpg

These guys are out of their minds!!!!:lol:
I wonder how on earth they forgot to claim the espresso caffè("illy",Giourkas is talking about),as slavo-skopian!But yesss...espresso is italian and according to them italians are.....:band: ....proto-slavs.:headbonk:
And there's another proof for this:rolleyes: :

DONNA DI MACEDONIA=MACEDONIAN WOMAN
not Greek, not Turkish, not Bulgar, not Serb and not Slav.......
WE ARE MACEDONIANS!
Jordan Piperkata
:blink:
.......italian maybe?And then

Today there is still a Female name DONKA, DONE , there is...The Name is derived from MakeDONKA....
mk

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30116#30116
In the end,please agree on what does Macedonia mean!

omg a skop posted this on that german forum..........now i know for sure....he is a stefov pupil :laugh: :lol:

Akrita, the one about muslim slavs in fyrom calling themselves albanians is true. due to their common faith with the kosovar refugees they refer to themselves that one.

Akrita, the one about muslim slavs in fyrom calling themselves albanians is true. due to their common faith with the kosovar refugees they refer to themselves that one.
I don't know if they are Kosovar refugees or natives but the Jockers is that they want to vaptize as Macedonian Muslims!!!!:laugh:

I paid a visit to maksh$t forum and read this:
When nationalism goes terribly wrong in Greece
by Risto the Great

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1542

and comments like:
If racial murders are committed by greek children, what will the future hold if things keep going the way they are??
by MKD


I believe that it is outrageous to use such an episodic event that shocked the whole public opinion of Greece(exactly as it happened in England in the James Bulger case-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Venables#Appeal_and_release - or in other cases all over the world)only TO PROMOTE YOUR SICK PROPAGANDA!THIS GUY,risto,SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF!THOSE THAT APPLAUD HIM WITHOUT USING THEIR BRAINS(I DOUBT IF THEY HAVE ONE)TOO!
SHAME ON YOU MORONS!!!:throwup:

I don't know if they are Kosovar refugees or natives but the Jockers is that they want to vaptize as Macedonian Muslims!!!!:laugh:

Its true. the muslims under Tito would have all called themselves Macedonians. but now they see they can benefit from being albanains.

SoM and Aleksandar, the ultimate etymologists:

Eirene was a daughter of Zeus and an ancient goddess of Peace. In modern Greek the words for peace are Eirene and Isouhasmos, the former being the obvious match.

In Macedonian the word for Peace is Mir, and has variants in the form of Mira, Mirna, Mirena, Mirjana, e.t.c. This word, which is obviously connected to Eirene = Mirene, is not present in any other indo-European language families except Balto-Slavic and Greek.

IF this is a Greek word in origin, why do people as far as Russia, Slovenia and Latvia all share it? Because it is originally a Slavic word.

An interesting comparison with this word would be that of Edessa. We know that this word derives from Vodica meaning waters or waterfall, notice how the first letter has dropped out just like in (M)irene.

SOM, potni or spotna is a twisted version of vodni, or zvodna.

I have said this before potamos = vodamos.

Here is more, pontian/pontus is the misspeled maco word for water, vodian, vodus. The greeks like to replace the "D" with "NT" for whatever psycotic reason i do not know.

With this in mind let us all now think about what meshopotamia really means and also... xip-po-potamus

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=540&start=200

An absolute cracker from that goon Antioch in deciding whether or not to send Borza an email:

Ok KM I'm in. We can try to analize and to send him a mail. Or we simply invite him to visit and post in our forum

Antioch

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1181&start=20

Yes Antioch, you can all try and ANALIZE and then send him an email. Funny, you must still be analizing as you mob never did send him that email or invite him to post on your pathetic nationalistic forum. As if he would. So keep analizing as you are good at that.

Skopjan Etymology of the Dervenion

The last line reads DERVEN for those of you not familiar with cyrilic.
A perfect match to the name DERVENI, minus the I on the end.

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/8489/derven4gx.jpg

Not like the Turkish DERBENT....¨



by Jordan Piperkata

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1149627147/last-1149708529/NEW+EVIDENCE+UNCOVERED+PROVING+MACEDONIA+WAS+ALWAY S+GREEK..+EUROPES+OLDEST+MANUSCRIPT


The word Derveni-Δερβένιον is a Turkish origin word and has two meanings:
-narrow pass(Modern Greece: A Narrative of a Residence and Travels in that Country by Henry Martyn Baird
(page 265)

-a military company that guard a narrow pass (Narrative of a Journey in the Morea by William Gell , page 169)

a Turkish show me one other link

Dictionary of turkish language institude (http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/sozbul.asp?KELIME=derbent+&YENIARAMA=+++Ara)

and the explainations are:

Propably derivative of persian word derbend or derbent.
1.Narrow pass between mountains
2.Small border fortress

what coincidence :laugh: :laugh:

In a country that teaches people to despise all that is not greek.
by Risto the Great


now,this guy seems that he just can't help laying himself open to ridicule.I remembered of my first post.Lets see... http://www.junioreurovision.tv/english/603.htm
name:STEFAN KRSTEVSKI
age:14
wish:"that the Republic of Macedonia would to be recognized by its constitutional name"
Can a 14 year old boy know what the constitutional name of a country is?
Can a 14 year old boy understand what the recognition of a state under its constitutional name,is all about?
So,which is the state that "indoctrinates" its people and worse its children?
Shame!!!

I've read all the threads and its facsinating stuff, just wondering, have any of you sent your work in like to a university, or a proffesor or something?
by SkopjanSoldier
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1555

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Please contribute your Jocking stuff Worldwide, day to day the rest of the world realize how brainwash you are:)

Skopjan argyments from Samovila


Third, just because Alexander the Great unified Greece, spread Hellenism, and was the King of a large territory that encompassed even present-day Greece, doesn't prove he was Greek at all




:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:






The Greeks have since had King Otto of Bavaria, King George of Denmark, and they all intermarried with other Germans, Danes, Russians, etc. They were all foreigners. Just because they ruled over Greece, learned to speak Greek, adapted to the culture, etc., doesn't give them a single drop of any Greek blood.


I think the Skopjans live in the 20th cent and they think that Greece has Royal family in hers leadership.Skopjans the Kings-Queens and e.t.c was a part of our History.Offer a lot as also took a lot from the Greek people. Fought for the Greece but the Greek people punished them in 1975. Today only the 40% of the Greek people lived at the past under the Royla rulership.Wake up Skopjans!!!

I understand that is hard for you Grks to understand the difference because you are missing the letter B in your alphabet.... B is written in Greek as MP......


So therefor you should respect when I say how WE DO IT... understand.....


latin B=MP in greek

by Jordan Piperkata

CAN ANYONE TELL IF THE GREEKS HAS THE LETTER B IN THE ALPHABETE???:laugh: :laugh:

Now the so-called "Macedonians" are Scots!!!!!! according to the dribblers at Maknews:

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1556

From Kassander:
I have been noticed that there are many similarities between the Macedonian culture & Scottish one. IE:

Both have a form of Haggis
Both have bagpipes
Both have a standing lion as a symbol.

Can anyone elaborate on this? I have been told before that it is a result of the Celtic invasions of early AD.

:laugh: So are Macedonians now Celts???!!! :laugh:

From MK:
I have Map on my Wall at home, so I post it here tomorrow.

On this map it is easy to see that:

Phrygians are migrating to Middle East and some of them even to Phoencia.

Phoencians on the other hand migrate to the Cartago(Kartago)

than some of them migrate to Spain

and from Spain some go to British Islands


So maybe this would be the Connection...

I have read that Phoencians had Simlar Symbols as the Ancient Macedonians, meaning the Star, and the common Language Features of the Phrygian and the Macedonian today are well known(Gordian Knot Unbound)..

So maybe this wold be interesting connection, however I never really did any researches on the topic..

:lol: So the Macedonians are now Phrygians who became Phoenicians, then Carthaginians, then Celto-Iberians and then migrated to Britain as Picts and Scots. Yes malaka, you obviously "never really did any researches on the topic" as you state, you just blow it out your ass!!!!!

From MKD:
Yes, for some reason, I also think there is a link between Scotland and Macedonia, but I don't have any specific examples. I guess it is just a hunch.

As a side thought, did you guys notice that the Macedonians in that crappy Oliver Stone film were speaking with scottish accents? Interesting..

A hunch - yep, like all your other stupid theories, they are all based on "hunches". And BTW, the accents in the movie where Irish, not Scottish.

From gornichvo:
My grandfather always told me the Scottish desended from Macedonia. I always laughed at him untill he got upset sat me down and gave me his facts i will share them with u guys here i go. "The Scottish are a people who once lived in Macedonia they got tired of the wars always going on in and around Macedonia so they left searching for better life. They reached all the way to England where they wernt treated well by the people of that land so the jumped (scocna) into Scotland. They settled nicely in this new land which looked like Macedonia." Then he went on about similarities like the bagpipes dress and the best one is the game KOTKA which became golf i remember playing kotka in my village when i was a kid . My grandfather is 90 years old never read a book or watched tv. When i asked who told him his answer was dedo.

Ah yes, good old illiterate dedo, never read a book in his life but he knows the truth - that the Scots are really Macedonians in disguise.

From KM:
I've heard that the Scottish are close to Macedonians also. And I've always been told I look Welsh. I can't count how many times people have asked me if I was Welsh, it was years before I realized that Wales was just south of Scotland. Is Welsh culture similar as well?

I didn't know there was a Macedonian form of Haggis

Apparently I heard that they used to keep the Gajda in a museum with a dedication to Macedonia where the bagpipes came from, but Greek pressure forced them to change it. I think it now says it was brought to Scotland by the Romans. And I've always wanted to throttle that wretched actor who portrayed Alexander in Stone's film for declaring on television that the Greeks invented the bagpipes

Yes, Welsh are really Macedonians too!!! And yes, the nasty Greeks applied "pressure" (whatever that means - red hot metal pokers perhaps???) to the Scots to make them change the dedication in the museum because the Scots were fools - Oh please!!!!!!! What idiots!!!!!

Big communist mouth strikes again
Kolokotroni did not lead his troops for the liberation of Greece. He fought for the freedom of man against a barbarious oppressor.
by Mikail
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30773#30773

as far as racist theories and facts are concerned check this http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/macedonia-news/750-romani-youth-last-seen-alive-while-being-chased-police-skopje.html#post5190

Hey Guys been away for a while but I`m back

i was just reading the forums and i just realised how every greek claims that he is blue eye blonde haired and tall and denys the fact they are dark and short, i always read about them but barely see them, i have read this alot of times and they always bring this comment along to "im blonde and everyone else in my family is blonde, and then if there dark and short and you know they are dark and short its "im dark but everyone else in my family is fair and blonde" it seizes to amaze me, reading this stuff, when people throw the "your a turk comment to a greek".

has anyone else noticed this

Toska http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1604

Another interesting fact is that if you look at the art in ancient greece all the people are with dar hair, some even black, and quite a few african related art (clearly showing the africans) has been found...


Whereas the art in ancient Macedonia there is clearly blond haired people...
something to think about

Volk http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1604

Ok, I realy get sick of this lame non existent argument from the Skops.
They think we all walk around telling everyone we are a pure race which within my experiences as a Greek is not the case at all.
One must remember that the ancient Greeks were a combination of many tribes that bacame the Hellenic Race of people.
Greeks are well aware that their was other influences in the Greek gene pool during thousands of years of existence. Just like there are many races who have had a great deal of greek blodd injected into their gene pool.
The reason why I pointed out both of these quotes is to show how weak their arguments are. For a Skop if a Greek is dark then he can`t be related to the ancients because he is not Blonde Haired and blue eyed like a number of Greeks of today.
Also for a Skop if a Greek is blonde Haired Blue eyed then he is not related to the ancients because our ancient pottery depicts us as Dark Haired and brown eyed people, just like many Greeks of today. Once again the Skops are having a two way bet to justify their stupidity.

I never heard any greek saying that the ancient greeks were blonde and blue eyed.....infact they had dark hair and eyes. Just like most greeks have today. Of course there are greeks with blue eyes and blond hair, this is because of influence of other people within the greek gene pool.

Blondes were in the minority in Ancient Greece, this can be seen through both art and literature when people who were blonde were emphasised. today they are in the minority as well.

btw whenever these slavs start with the blonde vs dark thing I just rip out this pic lol. as for them being tall LOL. skops are short like typical balkan slavs. And before a skop gets excited because hes blonde with rascist theories I would ask him to remember the many slavs who were blonde in ukraine and russia and what the inventors of the aryan race/ blonde blue eyed superiority theory (nazis) did to them in WW2 and what they thought of blonde slavs and slavs in general.:p


http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1353/gypsies18hw5at.jpg

BTW why does this guy have the name Volk? lol silly slavs trying to be germanized.

I never heard any greek saying that the ancient greeks were blonde and blue eyed.....infact they had dark hair and eyes. Just like most greeks have today. Of course there are greeks with blue eyes and blond hair, this is because of influence of other people within the greek gene pool.

Unfortunately there is a notion, mainly among Greeks of diaspora, that ancient Greeks were blond with blue eyes. I have heard it many times from Greek-Americans (mostly these stories are coming from their grandmothers - oi gnostes "istories" pou metadidontai apo stoma se stoma) and i am tired all the time to explain them that the typical ancient Greek had dark hair and eyes.

http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/press/lestweforget/scan0030.jpg

and this is what the skopjians just don't dig!!!!
All the rest they say show only what miserable morons they are.

is anyone able to read the whole text on that pic? would be nice if someone could just write it down here for me :)

Courtesy of New York Journal - American

Greece will never die. She could not, indeed; for the is more of Western life and Western hope in a handful of dust on the Acropolis than in all the makeshift religions, philosophies and new orders that have come from the disearred (I cant read that word exactly) brains in Berlin

A.A Berle, Jr.
Assistant Secretary of State.






@Amarantos, you should see this picture on the front of a skop church in melbourne which has Alexander the Great spearing a Tsolia ;)

is anyone able to read the whole text on that pic? would be nice if someone could just write it down here for me :)

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/319/scan00307by.jpg

I would really like to debate with a clever, intelligent, and smart Skopjian. I have looked for years and have never found one... either they are not educated well or really are not open minded. They remind me of the English in the dark ages... Thats what happens when the knowledge of Greeks is lost temporarily... sad stuff really.

Arthur C Clarke Said that if not for the Greek wars with the Turks, Man would have been in Space a thousand years earlier.... :)

@Amarantos, you should see this picture on the front of a skop church in melbourne which has Alexander the Great spearing a Tsolia ;)

The role of the skopjian church is very easy to understand.If one only reflects on the fact that it was practicaly established and baptised with the name it uses,by a communist regime :wacko: that had one precise aim.A complete joke.Just another propaganda tool.What a pity it acts like this though.

I would really like to debate with a clever, intelligent, and smart Skopjian. I have looked for years and have never found one... either they are not educated well or really are not open minded. They remind me of the English in the dark ages... Thats what happens when the knowledge of Greeks is lost temporarily... sad stuff really.

Arthur C Clarke Said that if not for the Greek wars with the Turks, Man would have been in Space a thousand years earlier.... :)

I found a skop on a german forum who seems to be pretty open minded i dont know about his english but i ll ask him about coming here :)

I think I was banned there in 4 posts. I got a warning after the second.

I posted quotations that went against thier beliefs (Greeks are a mixture of everyone & a small Hellenic portion may remanin) & it was deemed 'offensive to the members'.

Next time I'm in Solun, I'm gonna look up Chukalo. See if he'll speak to Kassander the way he writes on the net

by Kassander (aka Kassandra)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1602

Look how a Skopjan say LIES as usual. Kassander is still member of the forum and never banned.He or better She posted 12 times!!!!

I will waiting you dear big mouth. Just PM if you have the axamna dear Kassandra :p

The term "Makedonen" doesn't exist in the German language either
by Makedon_Epoch
http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1151165443/last-1151419866/All+Macedonia+-+All+the+time

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Maybe this site
http://makedonen.know-library.net/ (http://makedonen.know-library.net/)


is a product of the Greek propagnda
:clapping: :clapping:

"Mazedonen - ein modernes, slawischsprachiges Volk, siehe Slawische Mazedonier"

This statement is strange Akritas? It contains words that are not even part of the German language? I took this one to my colleagues, and they agreed that this statement doesn't make sense.
by Makedon_Epoche
any German speaker to help in the translation please..My Germans are not good.
Are those Deutsche Wörter ???
any help...please

I speak german, i m born in germany and this is pure german language ;) :D

the avatar of one of the skops on maknews with aristotle:

http://www.maknews.com/forum/images/avatars/gallery/main/palatica.gif

the avatar of struja with zeus:

http://www.maknews.com/forum/images/avatars/gallery/main/zeus.jpg

this is the result of a brainwash person:wacko: :dry:


Samoil was a Macedonian native, he is not a Proto-Bulgar nor a Bulgar, the Empire was called Bulgarian just like that of the Germans was called Roman. It never ends with you people, the same shiit everyday, if what you wrote above makes us Bulgarian, then be sure to remind all the Germans and modern Greeks that they have no medieval history and it all belongs to the Italians as they are the rightful heirs of the Roman name.


by komitadji

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1151618705/last-1151703148/RACIAL+WHAT-------

I just had my history exam 2 weeks ago...and i remember that german empire that is called in german "das heilige römische reich deutscher nation" (eng.: Holy Roman Empire of German Nation) that "Roman" was just because of an alliance with the Katholic Pope......

I just had my history exam 2 weeks ago...and i remember that german empire that is called in german "das heilige römische reich deutscher nation" (eng.: Holy Roman Empire of German Nation) that "Roman" was just because of an alliance with the Katholic Pope......
Giourkas the Skopjan use this argyment a lot.Can you scan the page and bring us ? In German of course.

No scanner :wacko: but i googled a bit

http://www.dasheiligereich.de/

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiliges_R%C3%B6misches_Reich_Deutscher_Nation#Der _Name_des_Reiches

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire (english wikipedia has it too)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Names_and_designations_of_the_em pire

http://www.uni-muenster.de/FNZ-Online/recht/reich/unterpunkte/nation.htm (german university)

I could go on like this for a whole week..........

can anyone tell me about the Macedonian gods and pagan beliefs. If there is any book(s),sites,etc on it or if some of my Macedonian brothers have some info on them it would be greatly appreciated as I want to learn more about religious beliefs :clapping: before Aleksandar paved the way for Christianity:clapping:
by goce

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1645

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

About the language I can tell you that antic macedonians were not speaking greek becouse romans give the power to Ciril and Metodious to develop a alphabet for the language spoken in Macedonia which was not Greek off course.

by zangelovski1


:clapping:http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/rba_daily7316;_ylt=Aje7cFS9SL0Vk6QryDnXjcShO84F;_y lu=X3oDMTBjamtzcG1mBHNlYwNoei1zdG9yeQ--?rf=78#comments :clap2: :boohoo: :w00t: :hyper: :toiletsmi


Ti eipe o poihths!!!!!!!!!!!
What the poet said!!!!!!!!!!

i love this thread, it like a tv show and everytime I see that there are new postings here its like a new episode is starting :lol:

Is anyone reading the comments of the yahoo adventure in skopgypsyland?

Listen to this one.
http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=910#comments


Joke no2. A 'macedonian' (western Bulgarian) student got back at home and told his father - I have two news for you a bad and a good! Tell me the bad - said his father. I have poor on math - mumbled the son You have poor on math ? Uuuh...yes, but I have excellent on history! I know that you will have excellent on history ITS ONLY ONE PAGE!!! BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by bulgarian_pride on Thu, Jul 13, 2006 6:43 PM ET

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Skopjan logic...:lol:

...Fact No. 1: Here is an original quote from Quintus Curtius Rufus - a Roman historian; one of the most reliable historical sources for Alexander of Macedonia or simply Alexander the Macedonian (not "the Great", not even "of greece"). In his book - "History of Alexander the Macedonian" (in original: "De rebus gestis Alexandri Macedonis" written III centuries after Alexander's death, Curtius describes Alexander: "He had white tan on his skin, and on his cheeks and chest he had daintily blush; his hair was blond, slightly curly; he had nose as an eagle, and his eyes different: they say that his left eye was dark green, and the other one quite dark. But in his eyes he had some kind of a concealed strength, in a way that nobody could look in him with out respect and some sort of a strange fear... " So my question is: WHERE DO YOU SO CALLED "MODERN GREEKS" FIT IN THIS DISCTIPTION? WHAT HAVE YOU IN COMMEN WITH THIS DISCRIPTION OF ALEXANDER?...Posted by vicikus on Mon, Jul 17, 2006 7:40 AM ET

The famous quote "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" applies entirely to this moron.

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=1447#comments

in the macedonia highlands under the hellenic sky

had some grkomani in Egejska Makedonia boasting about how the greek language in this region was the purest in all of greece. You know, compared to those greeks from the south. After removing the knife from my heart ... I promptly replied that it is quite reasonable to assume that a region with no history of the language would not have the literary handicap of dialects to deal with. Therefore it is more than likely that this region will speak a very pure form of this new language.

I am sure you would agree with my observation.

pozdrav
Risto the Great

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1680

No history? Don`t they have an excuse thet Greek was an international language for trade therefore that is the reason why there are thousands of Greek inscriptions dating back over 2000 years in Macedonia, Didn`t the apostle speak and write in Greek in Macedonia?
Wasn`t Greek the language of the Byzantine empire, wasn`t Macedonia part of the Byzantine empire? Didn`t two Greek brothers translate Greek Christian texts into Slavic texts 1200 yeras after Alexander? Isn`t mount Athos part of Macedonia, aren't the monastaries mostly Greek?

Quote by KM

Greeks are language nazi's, I can't see this theory fly anywhere south of mt olympus

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1680

If only KM was right, if anything the Greeks especialy the young are destroying the language, that`s what I notice in Greece last year..For once I wished one of them was right.

This one seen today in the comments on Bangs article:

The rosetta stone is written in Egyptian, Greek and Macedonian.

This one seen today in the comments on Bangs article:

The rosetta stone is written in Egyptian, Greek and Macedonian.

I dont know why, considering the amount of "monty python worthy" posts in this thread already, but I read this and felt so fucking angry. how fucking pathetic can these people get.

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. GAMO TA SKOPIA SAS

May I remind you of Goebbels?
His statements about propaganda are very accurate.
A good example:

"truth" is a "message" repeated 1000 times.

This is what Skopjians are doing. (probably, they have said the same BS so many times, they actually believe that it's the truth)

I dont know why, considering the amount of "monty python worthy" posts in this thread already, but I read this and felt so fucking angry. how fucking pathetic can these people get.

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. GAMO TA SKOPIA SAS

They continue it and posted it in another unsigned (of course) trash article titled : "Eight wonders of Macedonia" (http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/20060707/rba_daily/rba_daily7316)

) The Rosetta Stone

Discovered in Egypt in 1799, the writings on the Rosetta Stone date to 196 B.C. The text is transcribed in three languages, and the stone is considered a critical key to deciphering ancient script, especially the hieroglyphics of ancient Egypt. Just last month Macedonian scholars said that the third language on the stone was Macedonian, and not a form of ancient Egyptian known as Demotic, as had been thought. It makes sense: the Macedonians ruled Egypt under Alexander the Great and his appointed regent, Ptolemy Sotir, founder of the last dynasty. For more on the Rosetta Stone, visit Wikipedia.

The funniest part of the whole story, is that their source for further reading, wiki.. actually trashes their claim..

The Rosetta Stone is a stone with writing on it in two languages (Egyptian and Greek), using three scripts (hieroglyphic, demotic and Greek).The Rosetta Stone is written in three scripts because when it was written, there were three scripts being used in Egypt. The first was hieroglyphic which was the script used for important or religious documents.The second was demotic which was the common script of Egypt.The third was Greek which was the language of the rulers of Egypt at that time.

These people are simply pittyfull.:lol: :lol:

The "Eight wonders of Macedonia" website - Oops! Looks like they stuffed up their editing here:

Heraclea

Founded by Phillip II of Macedon and named for the hero Heracles, this fourth century B.C. town stands today as monument to Macedonia's classic past. When the Romans conquered Macedonia in the second century B.C., Heraclea became a main stop on the Romans' newly constructed Via Egnatia (see below). Before World War I, archaeologists found a small theater ticket (for row 14 out of 20) made of bone. Two world wars prevented further excavation, so it was not until decades later that archaeologists unearthed the 20-row gladiator theater in the center of town, and an early Christian basilica with mosaics depicting a menagerie of exotic and mythical animals on its floors. The Greeks built many cities named Heraclea; this one is known as Heraclea Lyncestis.
http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/20060707/rba_daily/rba_daily7316

From the same site...A skop replying to a girls post about Rosetta stone and ancient Macedonian writings.

Regarding blackbeltkoukla and no Macedonian writings. In those times it didn't matter where you came from or what your nationality was. Everyone wrote in Greek, whether you were Roman, Turkish, Macedonian, etc. It was the written language. In Roman times if you were Greek, Jewish, etc, the language and alphatbet were Roman. And to tell you the truth, Greece wasn't even Greece back then. You were either Athenian, Spartan, Creten or, yes, Macedonian! You know that saying the Greeks have, "Macedonia is Greece." Well, I think "Greece is Macedonia" Read you history a little bit more, you'll be better iformed. "Makdaddi"Posted by dragan.c@rogers.com on Thu, Jul 20, 2006 9:09 PM ET

I think we found the winner!! Marjaneva for President!!:clapping:

Antic Macedonians has spoken HIS ANTIK MACEDON language, what other people from Balkan doesnt understand, and Aleksander King of MACEDON has spoken one more language that is from his mother Olympia, and that was an Old EPIRUS language, close to old Yunistian (Athenian) language.
Posted by marjaneva on Sun, Jul 23, 2006 2:22 PM ET

:wacko: :wacko:


What are you talking above what anticue thesaloniki, it was from always SOLUNIKA (SOLUN!) Even Bulgarians what you blame on it too, they saying SOLUN, Turks saying SELANIK, you renamed in tesaloniki in middle of last century, including 1665 mor places cities, villages, streets, rivers, etc...etc.... and you now what: you hawe hidden that yust like ostrich head in the sand, but everyhting else is outside!!! Nobody cant Never Ever Hidden the THRUT!
Posted by marjaneva on Sun, Jul 23, 2006 3:01 PM ET

She is right. You evil Greeks Dont hide the THRUT!!! :lol:

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3160#comments

I didn't see the previous pages but look what I found posted:

1-
Even before Alexander the Great, Macedonia evoked power from which to steer clear. When the ancient Greeks held the Olympics they forbade the participation of the mountainous neighbor to the north because the hunter-warriors there were too strong, too fast, too good — favored by the geographic and genetic equivalent of steroids. It was believed the Macedonians were descendants of Zeus, after all. When Alexander decided to enter the Olympics, he proved the dread justifiable: he won. Then again, he was the emperor.

Alexander had proven himself a brilliant general and decisive conqueror even before his father, Phillip II of Macedon, died. Then, between 336 and 323 B.C., the young leader embarked on a mission to conquer and unite the known world, becoming what some have called the first true global leader — bringing classic Greek (and Macedonian) culture as far north as the Danube, east to India, south to the Nile. The last Egyptian pharoahs were Macedonian, the Ptolemaic Dynasty, descendants of Alexander's general Ptolemy Soter.

After Alexander died, at the seasoned age of 32, Macedonia became the Catena Mundi, the link between the worlds, the mystic cultural crossroads, the nexus of epochs. Over the following millennia almost everyone passed across this junction, most of them to put the stamp of conquest on it — the Romans, the Huns, the Goths, the Normans, the Byzantines, the Bulgarians, the Ottomans, the Serbs, and of course the Germans during World War II.

After the war, the core of this country was assimilated into Yugoslavia as its southernmost province, and for 47 years it endured the ignominy of anonymity. But in 1991 the nationalistic spirit reasserted itself, and bloodlessly it re-created a nation, the Republic of Macedonia.

2-Well... Let's start this...
Present day Macedonia.. has ancient macedonians' and slavic blood... Alexander the Macedonian (or the great) as greeks love to say because it's a threat for them if the ethnic borders of the real macedonia will be back to present day Macedonia.. as it should be.. Give me some good facts to prove that i am wrong.... i don't think you can... The history is clear.. The history says present day macedonians are related with ancient macedonians.. The hellens.. or hellada.. didn't even exist that time as a country.. they were like city states.... and they didn't love each other... Alexander the Macedonian connected them together and as every smart macedonian, he used their toughness because he didn't want to have a war with someone who got nothing but rocks...

Bulgarians, we taught you tha language you speak.. Kiril and Metodij did. What do you say about your propaganda and fake VMRO? you are all fake.. all of your country is fake.. you came here on that land before being tatars... then mixing with slavs.. and that's it.. you don't have any macedonian blood... I don't want any greek to speak about similarity of bulgarian and macedonian language... because macedonian language is connected with all slavic languages.. and what? they are all macedonians or otherwise? what about cyprus greeks? that's turkish? or macedonian? or greek? what do you say..? it was macedonian at first.. then turkish now half is greek half turkish... right? you're just making fronts everywhere.. Republic of Macedonia was recognized by Russia, USA, and China.. and a lot more countries.. That means they are recognizing our history too.. not yours.. They are the biggest countries in the world right? or greece is? anyway.. just reply.. we'll see what you have to say my dearest macedonians....

3-
Skopje is not a serbian city... and kosovo is not serbian teritory , not anymore... Macedonia has it's own part of greece and it's own part of Bulgaria. The macedonian church was the first ortodox church. In Ohrid. You know where the name russia comes from? From the word "rus" which only exist in macedonian language that is spoken today in the resent day macedonia. That is a word for blondes, like russians are. Yes Mr. Serbian... I'll be much more civilized then you and i'll not offend you like you do all the time. Maybe you want big serbia... but that is just a wish... you don't have sea anymore.. right? Milosevic wanted the same as you.. and do you know where he finished?)))) You are all macedonians, but betradors.. and just want to be something else.. beleive me you are worst then albanians that live in Kosovo. I totally beleive them now... You are terrorists and want everything for you...
OK. I made a lot of people laugh, but they made just a grin. You are so afraid from the truth.. because it's just like you know the truth about death. Greece will not longer exist if the ethnic borders are back. By the Bucurest contract.. in 2013 Pirin and Aegian Macedonia should be given back to the present day MACEDONIA!!! THE REAL MACEDONIA!!! Be happy that you have 7 more years. Don't try to make borders with serbia, because they are further away from you now. They lost Kosovo... You are gonna loose Golden Cemeria... They lost their sea... You see when you want just more... You will lose everything...!!! Just count the people living in USA, Russia, China and the other smaller countries that recognized us... That's a half of the world... and please shut up... if you don't want the bucurest contract make true!!!
Thank you!!!

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I didn't see the previous pages but look what I found posted:

1-
Even before Alexander the Great, Macedonia evoked power from which to steer clear. When the ancient Greeks held the Olympics they forbade the participation of the mountainous neighbor to the north because the hunter-warriors there were too strong, too fast, too good — favored by the geographic and genetic equivalent of steroids. It was believed the Macedonians were descendants of Zeus, after all. When Alexander decided to enter the Olympics, he proved the dread justifiable: he won. Then again, he was the emperor.


The amount of times Ive seen Skops mix up Alexander the 3rd with Alex the 1st is ridiculous.

the funniest thing is how he keeps referring to bucharest treaty. As if the Bucharest treaty mentioned a macedonian ethnicity and not just Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians.

Why dont these clowns try and come up with a consensus line for their bullshit instead of making it worse. Seeing as no macedonian race was ever mentioned in any treaty, why dont they say that EVERYONE, and EVERY western power conspired against them:rolleyes:

"The macedonian church was the first ortodox church."


:huh: :huh: :huh:

If you carefully study the articles and facts on the site: http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/ you will learn that the Macedonians that lived 4000 years ago, spoked on almost the same languagen, as the todays Macedonians speak.

:worshippy :worshippy

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3491#comments

According to the many years of painstaking researching, it could be concluded that these Balkan spaces the Macedonians did not steale from nowhere, but they are instead aborigines at least from the period of the matriarch, that is from the time of the great Macedonian mythological empire on three continents; the Macedonians are the oldest people with their own language and their own sound (phonetic) alphabet with a specific but variable social order through the millenniums with a rich four generation old mythology which from monotheism and polytheism (chaos, uran geae with the titans and titanesses, cyclopes and hundred handedones), kron - rhea with the sons Zeus - ruler of the world, Poseidon - ruler of the seas and Hades - ruler of the underworld, so the daughters: Hestia, Demetra and Hera, that is the almighty mischievous 12 olimpic gods among which Macedon too, the eponym of Macedonia and with whom inviolably rules Zeus who sees everything, knows every thing and can do everything and he is helped by his sister and wife Hera, later on turns into a monotheistic religion (Zeus - Maria and their son Jesus Christ, that is the son of god "sos krstot" (with the cross)) with a science which was made up of "higher" and "lower" sciences, with a graded system of education with it own oldest prehistoric rulers who were named zets (son - in - laws) and who with the oldest prehistoric form of ruling who had the zeting (son - in - lawing) and after that in the developed dynastic period that is in the IVth cent B.C. as a narrower form of the united kingdom of upper and lower Macedonia created, that is renewed a historic empire across three continents 3.8 million square kilometres big which in the later historic period via the roman, byzantine, turkish empire left its own noticeable influence unto the development of culture and humanity.

Vasil Ilyov :clapping:

http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/spomenici-e.htm

Reading this, Darwin would NOT be pleased to see how inefficiently evolution sometimes works!!!

Quote:
If you carefully study the articles and facts on the site: http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/ you will learn that the Macedonians that lived 4000 years ago, spoked on almost the same languagen, as the todays Macedonians speak.


:worshippy :worshippy

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3491#comments


Is it gentically possible for human beings to be this stupid?

tsakirides Alexander's father was not called Filipos he was called Philip
Posted by jvtmv on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:16 AM ET

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

aha! so let me go through it again, he fought the greeks in a period when persia had planning an invasion of the Greek cities. ok now can you guess why? cuz i sure can't. why would he fight agains athenians and spartians and trojans all together when danger was coming from persia???
Posted by dtr_bt on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 7:05 AM ET

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH Sorry couldnt help it!!!

I just went to have my daily "come and laugh" minute with the skopjans at yahoo adventure and our latest pearls are:

bumbarbt, excellent quotes-all facts! As for the meaning of the word MACEDONIA it comes from the great goddess ( from the matriarchal age) called "MA". The figure of this goddess is found all over Macedonia.(dating from the Neolithic age). And MACEDONIA means - MOTHERLAND.
Posted by vicikus on Thu, Jul 27, 2006 6:00 AM ET

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

Remember when I asked if it was genetically possible for humans to be as stupid as the Skops advocating this stuff? Well apparently their "grandparents" passed on some hearty genes.

Yes its true. Tsar Dushan was entitled:
Macedonian Tsar, Lord of all Serbs and Romans.


by Slovák


King Dushan titled himself as macedonian king Dushan and that you hear it first time is not surprising, you still have to learn some things about macedonian history. And we don't say he is a macedonian king although his main theritory and capital (Skopje) was also in Macedonia...

Bitola inscription is not sure it is original and you must know about it...


As for Cyril and Methodius please (but really) show me ANY historical source claiming their greek nationality!!! Please do it! As far as I know such source is not existing and we can presume that they may very well be macedonian ethnicity since macedonians were majority in this part of Byzantiom...
by Antioch

Hello All (first time poster here),

I found this on the adventures yahoo website and was stunned by the logic this guy used. I had to share. I edited the original post because it was too long.

First post written by a brilliant Fyromian observer.

I was in Pela and in Vergina,too.I VISITED VIRGINA WITH MY FRENDS FROM CROATIA, SLOVENIA AND WHEN THEY SOW THE VILAGE THEIR FIRST REACTION WAS: O MY GOD! HERE IS EVERYTHING LIKE IN YOUR MACEDONIA.AND ABOUT THE ROYAL TOMB.DID YOU NOTE SOME VERY IMPORTANT THING THERE? I DID THIS. PLEASE, WHAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SIGN OF ANICENT GREEKS: IT WAS OLIVE BRUNCH. AND WHAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SIGN OF ANICENT MCEDONIANS: IT WAS OACEN BRUNCH. DID YOU SEE THAT IN ALL OF FHILIP'S THING STARTING OF HIS CROWN, HIS HORSE CROWN, HIS WOMEN CROWN, EVERY WHERE THERE WAS OAKEN BRUNCH. AND, DO YOU KNOU THAT HERE IN MACEDONIA EVERY YEAR ON CHRISTMAS EVE, ALL MACEDONIANC COLLECT OAKEN BRUNCH AND PUT THEM IN FRONT OF THEIR DOORS FOR HAPPY NEW YEAR. DO YOU HAVE THE SAME TRADITION IN GREESE?

The reply by a thoughtful individual.

I eat chocolate bunnies at Easter time does that mean the Easter bunny exists? You think Fyrom is the only place in the world that hangs wreaths on their doors at Christmas time?? Seriously! There are tribes in Ghana that do also, they have Ancient Macedonian ancestry too? I guess you overlooked all the Greek inscriptions and Greek motifs and the formal Greek burial arrangements, rights and offerings at Vergina? You overlooked the Greek names that are inscribed on stelae like Alcetas, Philotas, Theophanes, Leander and others?? Are you sure you got further than the car park there? I really can't understand how you would miss so much critical information.

Original link:
http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=8033#comments

I looked the same url. Skops seem to create fake greek profiles. Take a look to this "greek_gay_69" moron.

Modern Bulgarians are escential Tartars,Thracians and Macedonians.


bulgarians have stealed the language from macedonians and occupy a part of macedonia

by jovan tasevski

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13393


Wanna be brainwash Skopjan idiot!!!:laugh: :laugh:

:lol: some golden stuff there...

Moutska -- Moutsina -- Moustaki -- Mouska

Mouth -- Lips -- Moustache -- Suck

No ancient Greek sources required.

Perhaps the ancient Greeks and the ancient Macedonians had a common root for this term. Perhaps there is an older Indo European term waiting to appear.

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

bravo to Battle of Cannae!!!!:)
moustache came from the dorian word mystax

Ο Λούμπι θα έχει ξυρίσει ήδη τα μουστάκια του :laugh:

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)


Lubi Uzunovski??? the "chairman" of an alledged 'Canadian Macedonian Human Rights Committee' writing letters to the greek state officials???

What a small world!

http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/english/pressrelease/cama19-9-98.html

some more infos here.

http://www.macedonianhr.org.au/pollitecon.htm

The poor ancient Greeks didn't know how to distinguish, mouth, jaw, chewing, gnashing of teeth, upper lip and moustache.

You'll pardon us but most Anglo etymologies end at Greek because that's as far as they ever researched. That's the limit of their idyllic knowledge base.

You have to wonder where the ancient Greeks got it from. Doesn't stoma also mean mouth?

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

Skopjan Lubi continue his Makedonski etymologies:laugh: :laugh:

Maybe the medical terms (95% Greek origin) also are came from the invisible ancient nation, that you and Stefou try to teach in your funs.

Gnathos,stomion,Siagonas, xeilos are unknown words from the brainwash Skopjans like Lubi Uzunovski

Battle of Cannae good, job:clapping:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m308/Balkanman/NavalBattleofNavarinobyCarneray1827.jpg

It was painted by Carneray in 1827. It is an oil painting of a Naval Battle of Navarino. What is the flag in the middle of the painting?! Red backbround with what APPEARS TO BE A YELLOW 16-RAY VERGINA STAR IN THE MIDDLE... looks very similar to the old Macedonian flag doesn't it? You know the flag Greece made Macedonia change

by one Aleksandar the great

Skopjan retards really believe that...Turks used a flag...with the 16-ray Vergina flag in...Navarino :laugh:

and i found out this pic with the help of Orphic that inthe end the so called ...vergina star flag...was essentially...the ol' ottoman crescent flag. :laugh:

http://www.culture.gr/4/42/421/42104/42104a/00/lk04a004.jpg

The turkish ottoman flag with the characteristic yellow crescent

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Ottoman_Sultanate1453-1844.png

Ehm skopjans dont know it yet. I guess they will humiliate themselves publicly for about some time in the forums claiming that carneray painting of Navarino had a 'macedonian' flag and when they find it out their argument will be 'ottoman propagandists changed their 'macedonian' flag to a yellow crescent!!! :clapping: :lol:

The same Aleksander of macedon in his latest spasmodic seizure from the same private group!!!


ALEXANDER I OF MACEDON SPEAKING TO ATHENEANS:


17.
Quote:
"Men of Athens... Had I not greatly AT HEART the COMMON welfare of GREECE I should not have come to tell you; but I AM MYSELF GREEK by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. ...If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the GREEK CAUSE, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am ALEXANDER of MACEDON.'"

[ Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45, translated by G.Rawlinson]


----------------------------------------------------
He is Alexander of Macedon damn right... NOT Alexander of Helles/Hellas. As far as him stating "Greek cause" Alexander had plans to TAKE OVER HELLAS from the beginning... he tried to do it without force and a strategy he used was saying "it was a greek cause" "I am you... i am greek" etc etc... smart guy
--------


Ladies & Gentlemen, in world premiere we learn that Alexander I the Philhellene wanted to...TAKE OVER HELLAS and that the title 'Alexander of Macedon"... proves he was not Greek!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So Leonidas of Sparta wasnt greek eighter but ethnic spartan :lol::lol::lol:

re paidia, this is to much. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

OMG, this is too much.

I wish I could find the quote where they claimed to be Romans as well. Did any of you see that post anywhere? It was ridiculous. The Italians wouldn't even dignify it with a response, much like we used to do with those ridiculous claims. We now have to address them of course.

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

Skopjan Lubi continue his Makedonski etymologies:laugh: :laugh:

Maybe the medical terms (95% Greek origin) also are came from the invisible ancient nation, that you and Stefou try to teach in your funs.

Gnathos,stomion,Siagonas, xeilos are unknown words from the brainwash Skopjans like Lubi Uzunovski

Battle of Cannae good, job:clapping:

Is Lubi really that stupid is Lubi just trying to be a master propagandist? No brains, and no class. Wonderful combination:wacko: :rolleyes: .

Another classic from Slovak - he thinks that Thalassa is a place name, he believes that Proto Indo-European is Slavic, that Slavs are Proto Indo-Europeans, that Greek does not originate from the Proto Indo-European language and that Greeks "were born from the original Slavic population of Balkans and the oversea newcomers". My God, unbelievable.

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1632&start=40

Ok, I never been to Korinthos or Thalassa, but as for Zeus, I'm not nearly convinced.
Greek and Slavic do not originate from Proto Indo-European as this language was the same as Ancient Slavic. The oldest writings in Sanskrit that are over 5.000 years old (or even older) can be easily compared to modern Slavic with words intelligable over 50%. It is a fact that Slavs were once inhabiting large parts of the Old World but not as Slavs but as Proto Indo-Europeans. Certain tribes mingled with other and distanced themselves from the majority, this majority today we call Slavs. Greeks were born from the original Slavic population of Balkans and the oversea newcomers.
Slavs and Indians changed from the oldest Indo-Europeans much less than others so in these languages lies the key to discovering what this language was, not Greek, Romance or Germanic.

The Skopian Global Task : TO ENTERTAIN THE WORLD POPULATION!!! :clap2: :worshippy

The ONLY state in the world that EXISTS for this reason...

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

carnival ? :lol::lol: you can buy those for your kids to dress up for carnival :lol::lol:

I can't believe how far they go. Is this picture taken in Fyrom?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

WOW, they really are little people. An insult to all smaller adults really.

Apparently they are getting ready to spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World, like ancient Macedonians !!!!

:)

Apparently they are getting ready to spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World, like ancient Macedonians !!!!

:)

You forgot, naming their new cities with greek names :lol:

dedicated to Istor


Axios is the Macedonian name*1, because Macedonians are related to other Mediterraneans and do not show a close relationship with Greeks; however they do with Cretans. This supports the theory that Macedonians are one of the most ancient peoples exsiting in the Balakn peninsula, probably long before arrival of the Mycaenian civilization about 2000 B.C.

by Axios
άξιος, άξιος , άξιος... αει σιχτήρ:laugh: :laugh:

http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?t=1457

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

Hahahahahahaha lol hahahahahah you gotta be kidding me! That has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life!:lol: They are so insecure that they have to attempt to dress like Ancient Greek Macedonian soldiers this way they feel what? Fullfilled? Hahahahahaha:lol:

Akrita, you refer to the river, right ??

Well the name is Axios beyond any doubt, because this is the name that Homer had (Macedonians were fans of Homer) and because this is the name that Euripides has in tragedy Bacckhae written (and thus played) in Macedonia.

Akrita, you refer to the river, right ??

Well the name is Axios beyond any doubt, because this is the name that Homer had (Macedonians were fans of Homer) and because this is the name that Euripides has in tragedy Bacckhae written (and thus played) in Macedonia.
Yes Istor. The funny derivation came from a Skopjan member that use as usename the name of the river
ΑΞΙΟΣ-ΑΞΙΟΣ-ΑΞΙΟΣ:laugh:

how about giving an award to the "dumbest skopian of the year" ? i mean we have alot of people who you make a decent competition :P

I have it in my mind.The voting will start in couple months:)

Alexander could not defeat some tribes in the indian region when he decided to leave the victorious tribes th said to them in macedonian PA KI STANI which means it will happen again.""
by voden


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:clap2: unlimited brainwash:clap2:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1156308450/last-1156578720/Alexander+Spread+Hellenism-++Not+according+to+Berkley+U

well a yearly award isnt enough if you ask me. We should make it "dumbest skop of the month" because we have more than enough shit from them to give away a monthly award :laugh:

It's not a one liner, but please read the end of page 5 and page 6:

http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?t=1457&page=5


I don't know what to say.

There are some real morons on that site especially Lion of Macedon. For a good laugh take a look.

I desagree!

It would be really hard to choose one !!
:)

Even the most "enlightened" SalvoSkopian propagandists have their imbecile times!!

:laugh: :clapping: COINE language is NOT GREEK. IT'S MACEDONIAN.:clap2: :clapping: :laugh: :laugh:
by adzigogov2001
:laugh: :clap2: :laugh: :clapping:
http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?p=21760&posted=1#post21760

Tell me, why you do not have the blue hair if you are the descendants of Alehader Macedonian?

Man these Fyromians, actually do fill up your boring days.

The March of the Fyromians at the statue is ideal for Bloopers.

A new contestant...

This article is about places to visit in Macedonia, so it's totaly irelevant what greeks will comment. Althought i can write kilometres of text about this I'll try to be short :) First Macedonian that attended Olimpics is Alexander I Filhellen, some 150 years before Alexander the Great. Filhellen = Friend of Greeks. You shouldn't be a genius to understand that greek can't be a friend of his own people. All the greek city states united against Filip II, which destroyed greek cities and temples. Greeks never did that. Alexander the Great was impresed by greek culture (which was far more developed than Macedonian in that time), and tried to spread that culture in Macedonia and places which he conquered. That doesn't makes him greek. Macedonians don't speak the same language as our anchients because the influence of slavic people that came here and mixed with them. So maybe we are half the same as Alexander. Still that's 50% more than Greeks. And finally, yes Solun is in Greece. But since when? Solun (which Greeks in 1925 renamed it in Thessaloniki) was ocupied in 1913. Majority of Macedonians living in Aegeian Macedonia were expeled from Greece in 1949 after the civil war. Today in Greece live 80-100 000 Macedonians that doesn't have basic human rights. Before 1949 there were about 1 000 000 Macedonians, so everithing that happen in Aegeian Macedonian after 1949 is Greek, before that is anything but greek.


by one j_strezovski

from http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=9145#comments


Human idiocy along with ignorance in its highest order!! :clapping:

Well, here's the proof that skopians have contributed a lot to world cuisine.

Waffles > wafeles > afeles > feles > qfeles > qveles > qvales

Skopians should also claim that they're the ones that discovered waffles.
(still laughing-sorry I couldn't help it)

Do they actually believe that most greek words are slavic?

Lunacy which knows no bounds - Slovak on the Rosetta Stone:

My point is that the second (and to those who didn't know, the first as well) is written with two languages. If we read it in Egyptian we have an Egyptian text. If we read it in Slavic we have a Slavic text. And that is not an isolated case. Most Egyptian hieroghlyphs have Slavic meaning to them.

And the astounding conclusion:

Many hieroglyphic texts hold hidden meanings that can be read using a Slavic language.

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1821&start=40

To my Macedonian freinds, I hope by the end of September ....I will start compiling Greek signatures for the recognition of Macedonia.

Also a recognition of the Macedonian minority in Greece.

This is `a long time coming

ilir in Maknews

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1842

:lol: :lol: :lol:

However, the Ilyrians were named after Ilios. Today that land is inhabited by Croats and Serbs (ancd Bosnian and Montenegrins) and their names also derive from the Sun: Hor and Sur.

By Slovak
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http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

Hello all, last nite i was talking with my grandfather and i mentioned Kutlesh he told me to call the city Vergina when i asked why he said that its the citys real name and was founded by Macedonians a long time ago it was a place of worship. He also explained that the name derived from the macedonian words VERA and NEGINA

by gornichvo

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

Slovak wrote:

Because Greek word Vergina is a Macedonian word Vergina i.e. both Kutlesh and Vergina are Macedonian. Here's your kindergarden diploma.


We all know the name of the town is Kutlesh and it is how the Macedonians call it. However the name Greeks call, Vergina, is a Macedonian word, so both names are Macedonian. I see what your pointing out, that Kutlesh is the real name of the town. But we are here discussing the origin of the words not the name of the town.

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

And my favourite of them all at maknews Soldier_of_Macedon:

They are both Macedonian names and both correct. Kutlesh is more recent, Vergina more ancient, personally, I myself, although aware of both terms, use Vergina more often than Kutlesh. Vergina is as much a Greek word as Edessa.

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

yeah lets just ignore the ancient name "Aigai" :rolleyes:

The Macedonian city was originally named by a MACEDONIAN, due to the GREKK CULTURAL INFLUENCE in that era the city was given a Greek name, however the natives also had their own way of saying it, and they say it alternatively but it still represents the SAME THING.

by komitadji (aka Soldier of Macedon) or BARUFAS

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1157440470/last-1157925526/Nikilianos


:clap2: :laugh: :clapping: Why Kassander founding and name the city of Thessaloniki:laugh: :laugh:

As Istor say
Solun or Thessaloniki??

Stop guys' can't take it anymore :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: it's too much paidia :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hope to add some good ones. ;)

One strong contestant is this one here:

Cleopatra VII origin is from Macedonian dynasty of Ptolemaists!