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[akritas]

The idea I took from Big Takis and his signature :laugh: :laugh: . So I initial this thread with one rule.You must show the link.
Have fun with the Skopjans.


Ancient Kretans spoke (or at least big part of them) slavic dialect. Some toponims prove it (without Phaistos disk).
from Antioch

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

The Proto-Slavic of Macedonia, predates the arrival of the Greeks to the aegean, whether you prescribe by the theory they arrived around 2000BC or 1400BC.

from Paul

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=953
Mother Theresa was also from Macedonia.

from Ilir

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636&start=0

[Otto]

I can find better quotes from Skopjians and just as smart:



"I have written new novel called the MakCode (I liked Davinci code!). It has conclusive proof that Alexander sired hundreds of children which are all living in Skopje from DNA evidence collected by the Veterinary school in Skopje. In fact I found out that I am one of them."
Risto Stefov, Direct Descendent of Alexander the Great.



"Madonna, 50 cent, and Ice cube are all Slavic people and descendants from Macedonia. Furthermore, they are Alexander the Great's progeny."
Risto Stefov

"I went back into time machine long time ago and found out every Greek was a Bulgarian Slav that came from Russian Area. Very quickly they learned Greek from Fishes in Aegean but they were Slavs... Notice also we Slavs do not have any ancient Greek words anymore. We dont like them (maybe they disappeared), nor do we like fishes. We like water though and plan to somehow trick people into giving us the land to the sea (Macedonia, Greece) by creating a load of @#@ on the internet that some idiots will believe (including our own people). "
Risto Stefov honourary Ph.D M.D M.Sc. MBA from BS University from Skopjian Institute Highest Ranked in all villages in Skopje.


"We have conclusive proof all Greeks are Eskimoes, and Skopjians are direct descendents of Alexander the Great, although we cannot show you at this time, nor at a later time, nor never. Just believe me as I am a scholar from Skopjian Village Polytechnic and have studied the sexual propagation of Sheep." Makform secret Professor
John Doe and Risto Stefov Collaborator

[Otto]

The most solid evidence from Skopjian Scholars from the Amazing institute of Nobel Prize producing Scholars - Skopje:
http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=geekcrno14.jpg
Above: An original painted clay mask of a Greek man, on display in the British Museum, London. Diosopolis Parva, from the Roman Period in Egypt, ca. AD 100, showing the obvious effect of racial mixing. Alongside, his skull, also on display in the British Museum.

From the scholarly site :lol: :lol:
http://macedoniancivilization.blog.com.mk/node/1301

I guess from the Face representation from a skull thousands of years old Skopjian Molecular Biologists can tell the skin colour, that the man had a black mother, and that he ate peanuts before he died. AMAZING. :blink::laugh::rolleyes::laugh::lol:

[admin]

Skopjian Logical Progression:

Spartans did not like Athenians.
Athenians thought Spartans were Barbarians.

Doesnt matter that they spoke Greek dialects, worshipped Greek gods the works! just the fact they hated each other means they were not Greek.
Therefore Spartans are not Greek and all Greek Tribes are not Greek.
(Uh thats why they were called Greek Tribes because there wasnt a Greece?)

In 200 years the Skopjians in Texas will proclaim:
We were never part of the US. Texans speak different dialect of english and like different music. Thus,
Give us take the land, and the oil please.

[admin]

I never laughed so hard in my life:

http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=acebel01.jpg A detail from the Alexander Sarcophagus, showing Alexander on a horse supported by an infantryman. Alexander's hair is portrayed as blond-red, as is the pubic hair of the infantryman on the left - sure indicators of the racial types present. The Sarcophagus dates from the 4th Century BC, and is currently in the Istanbul Archeological Museum.

http://macedoniancivilization.blog.com.mk/node/1301


I really cant argue with that, thats the most influential evidence EVER to come out of archaeology. Yes the Greeks were and are Black. Whats wrong with that? Whats wrong with being black SLAVS? Are you racist?

[admin]

http://ancientmacedonianscript.blog.com.mk/system/files?file=geekcrno101.jpg Three pots, dating from the 5th Century BC, showing the racial types in Ancient Greece: One is clearly Semitic, another Black. These pots are on public display at the National Museum, Athens.

Geniouses at Skopje University

[akritas]

Original name of Stip is ASTIBO......... With the Time it became Stibo =>than Stip

Strumica is named by the name of the River Strymon wich is Thracian name..........


Bitola according to the legend is: Some Man, Warrior named Tole, or Tolo, used the ancient technik to enter the city unremarked, to fight the Turks, and when he started, the People were saing Bi Tolo Bi gi... wich ruff translated means beat them down Tolo...

from mk(mkont)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=814

Also, it is interesting that his name is GEORGI KASTRIOT...not Gjergj Kastrioti as Albanians call him

There, they were called by the Italians Golobardani = people from Golo Brdo.

from Yannis

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1356

[Amarantos]

If we compare the word Salonica or
in Greek version as Θεσσαλονίκη( Thessalonikí) with the their official state's name
Ελληνική Δημοκρατία (Ellinikí Dimokratía )
we will noted that in bout cases the word νική (nikí) is involved

Now about the possible name's meaning of our south neighbours state?

Could we say that the possible meaning of the word
Ελληνική is :

"..gaining a victory (nike) over the Helens (in Greek) ?

from Homer MakeDonski
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1048&highlight=thessaliniki+elliniki




:lol: :lol: :lol: Well,to be sincere,i was left traumatized by this syllogism.
But you know what the wise men say."The only difference between stupidity and intelligence,is that the latter has a limit."

[Ptolemy]

This Homer Moronovski guy had once posted somewhere the following and i kept it because...well its too hard to find again such an amount of unique idiocy.

Homer_Moronovski trying to explain the meaning of the word "Macedonia". Enjoy!!

Make means Mother Don could have the meaning of the World because according to the fact that one word could have more meanings than is more than officialy that in our language Zemja mean Eart ot the Planet Earth or the World Don->*Dzon->*Dzeme->*Zeme->*Zemia->Zemja-with meaning the World or Makedonija Mother's World

[admin]

Don->*Dzon->*Dzeme->*Zeme->*Zemia->Zemja

only in 5 steps....

Don = Zemja ?

wow thats amazing and the proof of it all.

what will the Skopjians think of next....

:lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

lol @ the kretans

maybe we should move this to the anti propaganda forum and pin it there

[Voulgaroktonos]

In reality all their revisionism has its humerous side. Everything from ancient macedonia to tsar samoil to the vmro to WW2 but this thread should keep the aboslute gems and one-liners only. I may as well copy my sig to this thread:


They were also women in the macedonian ancient army and also they were part of macedonian olympic games


-Antioch on maknews forum

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1361

[akritas]

Threska (or Threskia in Greek) is generally Slavic word.... meaning in Croatian it means the same
from Yannis (aka lier)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1338

This Homeric Macedonian speaking language was increasing and gradually evolving into a more modern language, spreding and using a distinctive dialect from which later came Russian, Polish, Chroatian, Serbian, Chechian, Slovakian, Bulgarian, and other tongues, today they are known as Slavic languages, based on the Macedonian

from Jordan Piperkata

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1247&start=0
Before 'Albanian' was standardized the Tosk spoke a language more heavily influenced by Latin. The Gheg language was more 'Ottoman'. Slavic was common to both.

Modern Albanian [just the language] is a mix of Latin [Vlach], Slavic [Macedonian and Serb], Greek [Greeks] and Turkic [Ottomans].


from Paul(aka Pelister)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
I actually believe that the oldest Slavic inscription was found in the Kostur region of Greek occupied Macedonia, and was discovered by a Greek speaking archeologist from the University of Thessaloniki, who had the ancient Slavic artefact carbon dated to about 4000 BC......
from Paul(aka Pelister)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1236&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

It was Plato (500-600 BC) that said “most gods and their traditions we have received from the Barbarians.” A few hundred years later Herodotus confirms Plato’s statement.
by Odisej Belchevsky
http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/belchevsky/belchevsky_practical_mythology1.html


I don't know i've never been there to speak with them but it's possible that the peoples of that village (KALASH) are decendants of the greeks who were in Macedonian Army(as a hostages) and settled in todays Afghanistan to don't uprise against Macedonia and Macedonians.

by Alexander the Macedon

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2814&PN=1

[Amarantos]

yes, ancien macedonians were not ethnically greek.Bu they adopted some greek customs, and they viewed greek culture as a superior one.




There is no evidence they spoke an ancient greek dialect. This is still very much under dispute. What is undisputable is that they used the greek script, as did the Thracians, because that was the only script of the time.
from bg_turk

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9874&PN=3

[akritas]

hahahaha!!!:lol:
:laugh: :laugh: bg_turk:laugh: :laugh:

[Amyntas]

Pella has never been found lol......that shows how much of a brain this guys can call their own :lol:

[akritas]

I think this antioch will be the Skopjan b""""t champion.:clap2: :clapping: Mkont and Pelister are students compared with him.:laugh: :laugh:

Paul, the old name of Voden is Vydissa-Vodi-Voden. Greeks made some varriant of it in the vord Edessa.


by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411

[Ptolemy]

actually not!!! the Ultimate title of "Skopjan moron of the year" goes rightly to...

Don Zuan!!!! :worshippy

From the huge Don Zuan collection

Posted: Apr 25, 2006 3:21 AM

like you are saying Alexandros and Philippos....thats your name made by the greeks..it also has macedonian name like PHILIP AND ALEXANDAR.....and you can see that very clear from their monets (money) whit their face and everithing, and on that money its not the name Alexandros and Philippos its the names Philip and Alexandar.....and if can be proved by logic, where is your logic, logic doesnt seems anything to me, she gave you facts, now where are your facts?

[Ptolemy]

This was his best post so far. Whenever i need to have a laugh i went back and read it again.

Posted: Apr 25, 2006 8:32 AM

can u read this my friend?


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1158/untitled13cp.jpg

well every Macedonian can

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Voulgaroktonos]

This was his best post so far. Whenever i need to have a laugh i went back and read it again.



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I dont understand. Did a Skop say that every 'Macedonian' (Slav) could read the writing?

DO you have a link my Persea?

[Ptolemy]

I dont understand. Did a Skop say that every 'Macedonian' (Slav) could read the writing?

DO you have a link my Persea?

Indeed! One of these morons posted the image and claimed that skopjans could read it but not greeks. Later he understood he made an ass of himself and stopped posting images.

Its from a private group. Cant post a link.

But now i just went first time to the forum boys posted before, spent about 2 mins reading one topic and i can hardly keep myself from laughing.
You are right Akritas. That antioch guy is a natural-born moron.

Ancient Kretans spoke (or at least big part of them) slavic dialect. Some toponims prove it (without Phaistos disk). If you get the disc additionally the situation is even more revealing...

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

[Voulgaroktonos]

I think at a set date we should award one of the users on their with the award 'The maknews user with the blockest head' or something.

Antioch is the front runner for that award by far from what I can see

[Slayer]

SOM on maknews:

"These people know that Greek was not the mother-tongue of their grand-parents and the ancestors prior, that is why they come here trying to attack real Macedonians so they can feel "hardcore" Greek, as it turns out, they all end up looking like hardcore morons and the result of it is people like whats his face claiming to be a direct descended of Plato's uncle in Negoussa."

Guys did you know all our Granparents did not have Greek as their mother Toungue?

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1415

[nsminc]

Re sees, these monkeys should have their findings published.

Ti malakes.What else can one say.

[The Blood of Dorus]

One of the Maknews posters that I find ridiculously funny is Slovak - to him everything is Slavic and as such he really comes up with some classics. Below are some of Slovak's recent gems:

Such a Slavic name in ancient Macedonia (and later Rome) was Claudius. Klado, Klada, Hlado...
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398

Ambrozic said that Muski was how the Assyrians called the Phrygians. There are Serbian scholars who found evidence that Assyrians were Serbs-Slavs.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411

Pythagoras - Pelasgian
Pythagoras was born before Greeks occupied the island. In fact Samos in Slavic would mean the Desolate (Island).
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1387

Quote:
Look at the next closest city Veria. First mentioned by Thucydides as Veria.
Another Slavic word.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28223&highlight=#28223

Gaius Julius Caesar pronounced in original Kajus Julius Kaesar.
Kaesar comes from three words Ka e Sar>Kaj je Car=Kaj is Emperor.
The word Sar or Car (Tsar) is very ancient. It exist in ancient Vedic Sanskrit and is used quite frequently in ancient Russian folk tales. The theory that Tsar comes from Caesar is meaningless as Sanskrit-Slavic language proves.
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26834&highlight=#26834

Name Greece derives from a Slav word gora=hill; Goraci=Hillmen. In this form it was recieved by the Romans who built their civilization on Slavic tribes of Italy. So Greece means Highland.

I just call ancient Greece 'Southern Balkans', or more precissely Morea since that was the Goraci's mainland - Peloponeese.

Pelop-Belov, neese-niz. Belov's lowland?
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25907&highlight=#25907

[akritas]

Before you Grecophiles get to excited, what you call Greece is called Achaia as it was always known.

The term Graeciae is what the Romans called the region. Most probably what we know today as The Balkans

by Mikail and his map. Check the map and :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THESSALONICA
THESSALY

Phillip was prisoner to the Thessalians from a young age was he not?

He waged a war against them and defeated them in battle did he not?
by Mikail
A "Homer Makedonski" derivation of where Thessaloniki get hers name.Of course Phillip,Thessalians e.t.c. are :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


all the above came from

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398&start=0

[akritas]

:wacko: Mikail, I read Article, excertp from Donskis book Jesus Christ and the Macedonians, where he elaborates that the first paintings(oldest one) with the Eight rayed Star on the forhead of Mother of God is found in Macedonia, IX Century(Im not sure, must look again)...

Before were no Frescoes and Icons found, thus they were new Invention in the Church..... He Elaborates that the Symbol was drawn on the Mother of God, because she paid visit to Macedonia. :laugh: :laugh:

As support of the Thesis, he gives a legend about, and points out to the fact that she was in Anatolia(present day Turkey) in some Monestry....:laugh: :laugh: From Anatolia to Macedonia is not to far, and concidering that St. Paul was first to visit Macedonia, the chance that Mother of God was also in Macedonia is Great, thus thats why, as rememberance the Star on her Head, which lately spread out through the Ortodox World with all the Painters of Ochrid Eparchy..... :p :wacko: :laugh: :laugh:

because, Russian Icons have the 8th and 16th rayed Star too, and it is well known that the wife of the Russian Duke, Olga, was baptized in Ohrid, and they invited Macedonian Fresco Painters to paint there...

from Donski via mk(mkont)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1454

[The Blood of Dorus]

Now for Antioch Phoenicians and Macedonians are related and both are Slavs. :lol: He even spoke to a "Phoenician" about it but got no response :wacko: - another time traveler!!!

Slovak, did you read my previous post in which I explain that Carthaginians were wearing macedonian battle dress in italy under Hannibal?

I try to link Macedonians with Phoenicians but no big success till know. I had a clue that Tyrrenians spoke same language as Macedonians but I can't confirm it with other sources. Its also accepted the Phoenicians spoke semitic language (on their inscriptions) but some toponims are clearly venetic. I don't get it?

I try to consider is it possible they used 2 languages. (like Macedonians). One semitic (like Hebraic) for science and literature and the second one (venetic-slavic) for usual life. I suggested this to a Phoenician but he didn't respond after it...

Antioch

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425

[Ptolemy]

Newsflash!!! The 'Phoenician', antioch contacted, is now on the hospital with a serious Continuously Laughing Disorder. I doubt he will be able to respond soon. :laugh:

[Ptolemy]

I just paid a visit to that forum and found this. Attila and the Huns were...slavs. How could we miss it all these years?

Attila was a Slav. Haven't you read my article on the Maknews?
http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/spevak/the_kievans.html

For God's sake people...

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1472

I agree with his last quote. For god's sake people.

[akritas]

Guyes I just saw that our thread was been famous in macbourda forum. Actually with the title of Arkritas (Istor, Ellinas Etc) again showing his true colors (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1496)

I don't care what Skopjans write about me (I think also and Istor) but I am sad that point me and use my name that was the one that opened the specific thread in the racistic Stormfront. And people like Maknews that carry on the same nationalistic and racistic ideas (as the majority of the Strormfront) as about the puricity of Skopjan nation and spread lies and illysions.

and back in the thread:

Komita, very simple! Byzantium is Eastern Roman Empire-occupation country.

by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40 (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40)

[Amarantos]

Dont you remember that there was a macedonian dynasty in the Byzantine Empire.Holy Emperor Justinian The Great was born outside of todays Skopje..

by Komita
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1469&start=40


There sure was a Macedonian dynasty in the Byzantine Empire.Among Emperors of this dynasty one can find Nikiforos II Fokas,Ioannis I Tsimiskis and oh,almost forgotten...VASILEIOS II o VULGAROKTONOS(Basil II the Bulgar-slayer)

[Voulgaroktonos]

These gays have to options to extract some pride from falsifications:

1) Claim Tsar Samuil and his state as ethnic Slav Macedonian

2) Claim the Byzantine Macedonian dynasty, including its most famous emperor, Basil the Bulgar Slayer, who got his name fighting against Samuil as Slav Macedonian.

You CANNOT claim both.

Then again maybe the battles between Basil Boulgaroktonos and Samuil was a Slav Macedonian civil war. Uh oh what have I done. Next week we will see Stefou's "Big fat Greek lie # 300 - Basil and Samuil the civil war"

[akritas]

But Homer used 'many' langauges and his epic poems were written in many langauges.


by Paul (aka Pelister)
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1426&start=20

[akritas]

Homer Makedonski strike again!!!!


Word Helens carved into two verbs


-first one as ela or “to come here� :lol: :lol:



what's my view over the primary meaning of the word Heleni



Heleni

*H-*>X->*K`S
*Xeleni
K`S E LENI
(K)`SELENI
''`SELENIJE->migration :clap2: :clap2:
Hellas




K/SELLas
' /SELLO -village (Polises , )
' SEL -
*L->*O (palatalisation )





'/ SEL



SEO -(SEDNAL) -v. to sit;to live ;to stay

*SEL-SSEL-ZSEL-ZASEL :-ZA SEDNAL:laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :clapping: :clapping:






KAI H APOTHEOSI


I have a small pocket Latin-English ,English -Latin dictionary by S.A.Handford and Mary Herberg ,printed in Germany 1955,1966 by Langenscheidt KG ,Berlin and Munich and on page 148 we read




grates-f/pl. thanks,thanksgiving





gratia,ae f.1.a)charm,lovelines,grace;


b)favour,credit,influence,regard;;gratia inire-ab albo find favour,

c)friendship,love; in gratiam redire cum alco to be reconciled;

2.favour,kindness,courtesy,service;gratiam facere to excuse (alci alcis rei);a)in gratiamalcis to please;

b)thanks,thankfulness,gratitude,requital,recompenc e;gratias agere to return thanks;gratiam habere to be thankfull,gratiam referre to recquite,recompense; c)abl.gratia (with gen.)for the sake of,on account of,in favour of ;

d)grat(i)is out of kindness,for nothing ,gratuitously


My guess is that all of these gratefuly explainations

can be taken as rooth for the word Greece since Selloi people have had their own freedom out of Macedonian slavery after the third, 167-168 B.C. Roman-Macedonian War .























http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1501

as Perseas make a derivation of the word Slanoi


slavoi>blavoi>blakoi>blakes.

[Ptolemy]

Long ago this guy had posted this one. Enjoy laughing!!! :lol:


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------
1.In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,..
In the beginning was The Word and the Word was Duma
In the beginning was *Duma and *Duma was with Bog
*M->N
In the beginning was *DoMa and *DoNa was with Boga

In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *Bagae
*G->K
In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *BaeKae
*B->M
pub37.ezboard.com/fistori...D=87.topic

In the beginning was *Dona and Dona was with *MaeKae
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with *MaiKae
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with *Majka
In the beginning was Dona and Dona was with*MaKe


"and the Word was God. "
and *Duma was God
and *Dona was God
Dona~God

ADonai-Jews
Deon-Portugal
Dion-espanol
Dieu-France
Juma la -Finnish~*D+juma~*Djumala~*Duma~Don
Dieu-French~*Dieu(n)-*D ie N-*Don

Dio, idolo-Italian
Diyos-(lat inf), (bathala, ang lumikha)-Tagalog(Filipino)
Dumnezeu-Romanian~*Dumne-Duma

Dduw, nuw, Celi, Dofydd, celi, cheli, geli, ngheli-Welsh
Deus-Latin
D->T-TH
Theos -Greek
------------

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
-The Word was in the beginning with God
-*Don was in the beginning with* MaKe

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Dona->*Dzona-Dzomae-Dzemae-dZemae-Zemae-Zeme-Zemia-Zemja
Dona->*uDona-vDona-VoDona-Vodona-Voda
Dona->*Dzona-oDzona-OdZona-Ozon
Dona->*oDona-oGona-Ogona-Ogan

And all four elements had been created from *Dona



p.s. Take a note pls all of you who endeed do not understand Macedonian language
Note:
Mother-Majka
God-Bog
Word-Zbor-Rec-Duma
Earth-Zemja
Air-Vozduh
Water-Voda
Fire-Ogan

Then we do analyse based on coparation with some foren language area
lets say English one

If we supposed thet the letter N deaviated into the letter R via letter L
eg. viewing the word Sun
soNce - in Macedonian
soLem-in latin
suRia -in hindy language
*N->L->R
Than instead of Don -Tera as a word appearing

Don
D-*T
O-*Oe-oE-E
N-*R
--------
DON
TERA
-----------
Via Tera all of the text would be on the way :

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

-In the beginning was *Tera and *Tera was with *Make-Ma(ke)-Ma
..and Tera was God
(this part will never be explained via Tera,exept one name only Tor,as for the Scandinavians

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
-Tera was in the beginning with Ma


.
.
.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

English version


Tera-*Terra-La Ter--Earth-
Tera->*W+Tera-Watera-Water
Tera->*-T-Era-eAER-AERA-Aero-Air
Tera->*(T-P-F)Pera-Pira-Fira-Fire
All four elements are here again

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was Ma/Tera-Mater
or
Mother


In the beginning was the Word
and word was about *MakeDona


someone would prefer to say that this is 4000 years greek name based od word
makednos ,and grounding its claiming on possible conclusions done from the archeologist side ,

Archeologist , can you believe



regards


Homer MakeDonski

[Ptolemy]

More from my fave pet-hate Homer-Makedonski discussions on the net. Read this one




Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"

The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".

The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.

Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.

Now go to sleep


Of course that you or anybody else can make a lot of word researches
what most of all must to be well grouded

now you have to think how you could



Well, I saw your way of providing grounds for your suggestions, and I used exactly the same method: I took it out of my arse

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Amarantos]

After seeing postcards of Thessaloniki.....
-One question, why do a lot of them have greek writing? I understand the presence of French and Turkish (Arabic script), but not the presence of Greek.
MKD

-i'm not exactly sure why of the Greek writing. I guess they had more influence there...Solun (to my knowledge) wasn't exactly a strict controlled city by Macedonians, you know how it was in Macedonia back in those days.
dejance
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29765#29765
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

fyromians....WAKE UP!!!!!!!

[Reaper]

"I have written new novel called the MakCode (I liked Davinci code!). It has conclusive proof that Alexander sired hundreds of children which are all living in Skopje from DNA evidence collected by the Veterinary school in Skopje. In fact I found out that I am one of them."

I have just read through them all, but this early one is still my favorite as well as the questioning of the salonika postcards being in Greek.


Here is one of my favorites from a forum called Xtratime controlled by Fyromians. Here a vocal member no longer living in FYROM talks about his past visits to FYROM in response to a Greek suggesting he may be of slavic descent:

I dont know who you know or who you talk to, but thats not how most people think. In fact no1 in Macedonia really thinks about that issue. Ask Harry or Romanticar they can tell you. But, I do go back every 3 to 4 years and have never heard anyone say anything about being a Slav. In fact there are things being built now in Macedonia that will have Aleksandar riding his horse. I think in 4 Macedonian cities.

[Voulgaroktonos]

This isnt exaclty a one-liner but I had to post this here:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8767/bulgarianlaugh9gz.jpg

[akritas]

hahahahahahaha!!!!!
QUEEN CLEOPATRA PTOLOMAYOVA :laugh:
ARISTOTEL NIKOMACHOV :laugh:
KING ZEVS:clap2:

[akritas]

I've heard that in Struga-the municipality, there are Macedonian Muslims who write that they are Albanians...
by dejance
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1526

I read these days about a vilage in Iran which inhabitants also consider themselves with macedonian ancestry...

How many Macedonians were really spread in the world???

by Antioch
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1527
Your incredibly emotional about it Imo, Solun is our spiritual capital one day all Greeks will be removed from it a great Arab Army that will conquer Europe after the anti-Christ makes his appearance will spare Macedonia. But Greece and all of the European Continent will be burnt to the ground Solun and all of Macedonia will be re-united, amen.
by Frank
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[akritas]

The Illyrians were a proto-Slavic people who worshiped their sun god Iliy. In case Greeks are wondering, Macedonia - Make-don-ija means "mother's-domain", the territory where a selection of ancient "northern" proto-Slav tribes united.


Please note the presence of "Iliy" in the following words;

Civilization: Zivil-ization

Aleksandar : Ale/ile and Dar/gift (Gift of the sun god Iliy)

or: Ale/ile - San/"sonce"/sun - dar/gift (Gift of Iliy, the sun god)

Philip: Friend of Iliy (as in Phil-Hellene)

Achilles: Could he have been an Aegean proto-slav Pelasgian?

Aristotle; Totle - le - ile (at least half Macedonian)

Hellen: elle - ile - (a proto-Slavic name?)

Ptolemy: Tole - ole - ile.

And Ptole - Bitole - Bitola

Clietus: Klit - Li - ile

What about Trajan: Traj - Troj - Troy (a proto-Slav people)

Cleopatra: Cleo - leo -iliy

Following are some post 6th century to 11th AD names;

Cyril : Cyr - il (Sir/zemja/soil and il. Perhaps, fertilized soil from Iliy)

Samoil : Samo/only - il/iliy (only Iliy)

Basil : Vasil - Perhaps Vas/vash//your, as in the peoples iliy


Leo 1 : Iliy Byzantine emperor from the Macedonian dynasty
.

By Zac I -Australia

ILLY ILLY KAI TRIS-ALLYYYYYYYY:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


The name Greece is derived from the Slav word "gora" which in English means "hill"; Goraci=Hillman.

I believe it was received in this form by the Romans who built their civilization on the Slavic tribes of Italy.

So Greece means Highland. I just call ancient Greece 'Southern Balkans', or more precisely Morea since that was the Goraci's mainland - Peloponnesus.

Pelop-Belov, neese-niz. Belov's lowland?


By Slovak

Slovak is characteristic Pan-Slavic brainwash believer.:lol:

[Amyntas]

you know that ily stuff (êáöÃ�ò ðñÃ�ðåé Ã*á åßÃ*áé) that they sell in greece? :D

[akritas]

Yes and if the Skopjans read this thread will say that the Proto- Slav ic presence is alive.
BTW Illi mean Thee mou!!!!!Aramaika
my Illi and not the Skopjan Illy:laugh:

:clap2:Skopjans you are tottaly brainwash!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :laugh:

[Amyntas]

A skop in a german forum said that they found "ancient macedonian writings inside the bosnian pyramids :D " he also says that this is evidence that they were slavs :D

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News_files/image10681.jpg

[Amarantos]

These guys are out of their minds!!!!:lol:
I wonder how on earth they forgot to claim the espresso caffè("illy",Giourkas is talking about),as slavo-skopian!But yesss...espresso is italian and according to them italians are.....:band: ....proto-slavs.:headbonk:
And there's another proof for this:rolleyes: :

DONNA DI MACEDONIA=MACEDONIAN WOMAN
not Greek, not Turkish, not Bulgar, not Serb and not Slav.......
WE ARE MACEDONIANS!
Jordan Piperkata
:blink:
.......italian maybe?And then

Today there is still a Female name DONKA, DONE , there is...The Name is derived from MakeDONKA....
mk

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30116#30116
In the end,please agree on what does Macedonia mean!

[Amyntas]

omg a skop posted this on that german forum..........now i know for sure....he is a stefov pupil :laugh: :lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

Akrita, the one about muslim slavs in fyrom calling themselves albanians is true. due to their common faith with the kosovar refugees they refer to themselves that one.

[akritas]

Akrita, the one about muslim slavs in fyrom calling themselves albanians is true. due to their common faith with the kosovar refugees they refer to themselves that one.
I don't know if they are Kosovar refugees or natives but the Jockers is that they want to vaptize as Macedonian Muslims!!!!:laugh:

[Amarantos]

I paid a visit to maksh$t forum and read this:
When nationalism goes terribly wrong in Greece
by Risto the Great

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1542

and comments like:
If racial murders are committed by greek children, what will the future hold if things keep going the way they are??
by MKD


I believe that it is outrageous to use such an episodic event that shocked the whole public opinion of Greece(exactly as it happened in England in the James Bulger case-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Venables#Appeal_and_release - or in other cases all over the world)only TO PROMOTE YOUR SICK PROPAGANDA!THIS GUY,risto,SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF!THOSE THAT APPLAUD HIM WITHOUT USING THEIR BRAINS(I DOUBT IF THEY HAVE ONE)TOO!
SHAME ON YOU MORONS!!!:throwup:

[Voulgaroktonos]

I don't know if they are Kosovar refugees or natives but the Jockers is that they want to vaptize as Macedonian Muslims!!!!:laugh:

Its true. the muslims under Tito would have all called themselves Macedonians. but now they see they can benefit from being albanains.

[The Blood of Dorus]

SoM and Aleksandar, the ultimate etymologists:

Eirene was a daughter of Zeus and an ancient goddess of Peace. In modern Greek the words for peace are Eirene and Isouhasmos, the former being the obvious match.

In Macedonian the word for Peace is Mir, and has variants in the form of Mira, Mirna, Mirena, Mirjana, e.t.c. This word, which is obviously connected to Eirene = Mirene, is not present in any other indo-European language families except Balto-Slavic and Greek.

IF this is a Greek word in origin, why do people as far as Russia, Slovenia and Latvia all share it? Because it is originally a Slavic word.

An interesting comparison with this word would be that of Edessa. We know that this word derives from Vodica meaning waters or waterfall, notice how the first letter has dropped out just like in (M)irene.

SOM, potni or spotna is a twisted version of vodni, or zvodna.

I have said this before potamos = vodamos.

Here is more, pontian/pontus is the misspeled maco word for water, vodian, vodus. The greeks like to replace the "D" with "NT" for whatever psycotic reason i do not know.

With this in mind let us all now think about what meshopotamia really means and also... xip-po-potamus

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=540&start=200

[The Blood of Dorus]

An absolute cracker from that goon Antioch in deciding whether or not to send Borza an email:

Ok KM I'm in. We can try to analize and to send him a mail. Or we simply invite him to visit and post in our forum

Antioch

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1181&start=20

Yes Antioch, you can all try and ANALIZE and then send him an email. Funny, you must still be analizing as you mob never did send him that email or invite him to post on your pathetic nationalistic forum. As if he would. So keep analizing as you are good at that.

[akritas]

Skopjan Etymology of the Dervenion

The last line reads DERVEN for those of you not familiar with cyrilic.
A perfect match to the name DERVENI, minus the I on the end.

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/8489/derven4gx.jpg

Not like the Turkish DERBENT....¨



by Jordan Piperkata

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1149627147/last-1149708529/NEW+EVIDENCE+UNCOVERED+PROVING+MACEDONIA+WAS+ALWAY S+GREEK..+EUROPES+OLDEST+MANUSCRIPT


The word Derveni-Δερβένιον is a Turkish origin word and has two meanings:
-narrow pass(Modern Greece: A Narrative of a Residence and Travels in that Country by Henry Martyn Baird
(page 265)

-a military company that guard a narrow pass (Narrative of a Journey in the Morea by William Gell , page 169)

a Turkish show me one other link

Dictionary of turkish language institude (http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/sozbul.asp?KELIME=derbent+&YENIARAMA=+++Ara)

and the explainations are:

Propably derivative of persian word derbend or derbent.
1.Narrow pass between mountains
2.Small border fortress

what coincidence :laugh: :laugh:

[Amarantos]

In a country that teaches people to despise all that is not greek.
by Risto the Great


now,this guy seems that he just can't help laying himself open to ridicule.I remembered of my first post.Lets see... http://www.junioreurovision.tv/english/603.htm
name:STEFAN KRSTEVSKI
age:14
wish:"that the Republic of Macedonia would to be recognized by its constitutional name"
Can a 14 year old boy know what the constitutional name of a country is?
Can a 14 year old boy understand what the recognition of a state under its constitutional name,is all about?
So,which is the state that "indoctrinates" its people and worse its children?
Shame!!!

[akritas]

I've read all the threads and its facsinating stuff, just wondering, have any of you sent your work in like to a university, or a proffesor or something?
by SkopjanSoldier
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1555

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Please contribute your Jocking stuff Worldwide, day to day the rest of the world realize how brainwash you are:)

[akritas]

Skopjan argyments from Samovila


Third, just because Alexander the Great unified Greece, spread Hellenism, and was the King of a large territory that encompassed even present-day Greece, doesn't prove he was Greek at all




:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:






The Greeks have since had King Otto of Bavaria, King George of Denmark, and they all intermarried with other Germans, Danes, Russians, etc. They were all foreigners. Just because they ruled over Greece, learned to speak Greek, adapted to the culture, etc., doesn't give them a single drop of any Greek blood.


I think the Skopjans live in the 20th cent and they think that Greece has Royal family in hers leadership.Skopjans the Kings-Queens and e.t.c was a part of our History.Offer a lot as also took a lot from the Greek people. Fought for the Greece but the Greek people punished them in 1975. Today only the 40% of the Greek people lived at the past under the Royla rulership.Wake up Skopjans!!!

[akritas]

I understand that is hard for you Grks to understand the difference because you are missing the letter B in your alphabet.... B is written in Greek as MP......


So therefor you should respect when I say how WE DO IT... understand.....


latin B=MP in greek

by Jordan Piperkata

CAN ANYONE TELL IF THE GREEKS HAS THE LETTER B IN THE ALPHABETE???:laugh: :laugh:

[The Blood of Dorus]

Now the so-called "Macedonians" are Scots!!!!!! according to the dribblers at Maknews:

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1556

From Kassander:
I have been noticed that there are many similarities between the Macedonian culture & Scottish one. IE:

Both have a form of Haggis
Both have bagpipes
Both have a standing lion as a symbol.

Can anyone elaborate on this? I have been told before that it is a result of the Celtic invasions of early AD.

:laugh: So are Macedonians now Celts???!!! :laugh:

From MK:
I have Map on my Wall at home, so I post it here tomorrow.

On this map it is easy to see that:

Phrygians are migrating to Middle East and some of them even to Phoencia.

Phoencians on the other hand migrate to the Cartago(Kartago)

than some of them migrate to Spain

and from Spain some go to British Islands


So maybe this would be the Connection...

I have read that Phoencians had Simlar Symbols as the Ancient Macedonians, meaning the Star, and the common Language Features of the Phrygian and the Macedonian today are well known(Gordian Knot Unbound)..

So maybe this wold be interesting connection, however I never really did any researches on the topic..

:lol: So the Macedonians are now Phrygians who became Phoenicians, then Carthaginians, then Celto-Iberians and then migrated to Britain as Picts and Scots. Yes malaka, you obviously "never really did any researches on the topic" as you state, you just blow it out your ass!!!!!

From MKD:
Yes, for some reason, I also think there is a link between Scotland and Macedonia, but I don't have any specific examples. I guess it is just a hunch.

As a side thought, did you guys notice that the Macedonians in that crappy Oliver Stone film were speaking with scottish accents? Interesting..

A hunch - yep, like all your other stupid theories, they are all based on "hunches". And BTW, the accents in the movie where Irish, not Scottish.

From gornichvo:
My grandfather always told me the Scottish desended from Macedonia. I always laughed at him untill he got upset sat me down and gave me his facts i will share them with u guys here i go. "The Scottish are a people who once lived in Macedonia they got tired of the wars always going on in and around Macedonia so they left searching for better life. They reached all the way to England where they wernt treated well by the people of that land so the jumped (scocna) into Scotland. They settled nicely in this new land which looked like Macedonia." Then he went on about similarities like the bagpipes dress and the best one is the game KOTKA which became golf i remember playing kotka in my village when i was a kid . My grandfather is 90 years old never read a book or watched tv. When i asked who told him his answer was dedo.

Ah yes, good old illiterate dedo, never read a book in his life but he knows the truth - that the Scots are really Macedonians in disguise.

From KM:
I've heard that the Scottish are close to Macedonians also. And I've always been told I look Welsh. I can't count how many times people have asked me if I was Welsh, it was years before I realized that Wales was just south of Scotland. Is Welsh culture similar as well?

I didn't know there was a Macedonian form of Haggis

Apparently I heard that they used to keep the Gajda in a museum with a dedication to Macedonia where the bagpipes came from, but Greek pressure forced them to change it. I think it now says it was brought to Scotland by the Romans. And I've always wanted to throttle that wretched actor who portrayed Alexander in Stone's film for declaring on television that the Greeks invented the bagpipes

Yes, Welsh are really Macedonians too!!! And yes, the nasty Greeks applied "pressure" (whatever that means - red hot metal pokers perhaps???) to the Scots to make them change the dedication in the museum because the Scots were fools - Oh please!!!!!!! What idiots!!!!!

[Amarantos]

Big communist mouth strikes again
Kolokotroni did not lead his troops for the liberation of Greece. He fought for the freedom of man against a barbarious oppressor.
by Mikail
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30773#30773

as far as racist theories and facts are concerned check this http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/macedonia-news/750-romani-youth-last-seen-alive-while-being-chased-police-skopje.html#post5190

[Slayer]

Hey Guys been away for a while but I`m back

i was just reading the forums and i just realised how every greek claims that he is blue eye blonde haired and tall and denys the fact they are dark and short, i always read about them but barely see them, i have read this alot of times and they always bring this comment along to "im blonde and everyone else in my family is blonde, and then if there dark and short and you know they are dark and short its "im dark but everyone else in my family is fair and blonde" it seizes to amaze me, reading this stuff, when people throw the "your a turk comment to a greek".

has anyone else noticed this

Toska http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1604

Another interesting fact is that if you look at the art in ancient greece all the people are with dar hair, some even black, and quite a few african related art (clearly showing the africans) has been found...


Whereas the art in ancient Macedonia there is clearly blond haired people...
something to think about

Volk http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1604

Ok, I realy get sick of this lame non existent argument from the Skops.
They think we all walk around telling everyone we are a pure race which within my experiences as a Greek is not the case at all.
One must remember that the ancient Greeks were a combination of many tribes that bacame the Hellenic Race of people.
Greeks are well aware that their was other influences in the Greek gene pool during thousands of years of existence. Just like there are many races who have had a great deal of greek blodd injected into their gene pool.
The reason why I pointed out both of these quotes is to show how weak their arguments are. For a Skop if a Greek is dark then he can`t be related to the ancients because he is not Blonde Haired and blue eyed like a number of Greeks of today.
Also for a Skop if a Greek is blonde Haired Blue eyed then he is not related to the ancients because our ancient pottery depicts us as Dark Haired and brown eyed people, just like many Greeks of today. Once again the Skops are having a two way bet to justify their stupidity.

[Amyntas]

I never heard any greek saying that the ancient greeks were blonde and blue eyed.....infact they had dark hair and eyes. Just like most greeks have today. Of course there are greeks with blue eyes and blond hair, this is because of influence of other people within the greek gene pool.

[Voulgaroktonos]

Blondes were in the minority in Ancient Greece, this can be seen through both art and literature when people who were blonde were emphasised. today they are in the minority as well.

btw whenever these slavs start with the blonde vs dark thing I just rip out this pic lol. as for them being tall LOL. skops are short like typical balkan slavs. And before a skop gets excited because hes blonde with rascist theories I would ask him to remember the many slavs who were blonde in ukraine and russia and what the inventors of the aryan race/ blonde blue eyed superiority theory (nazis) did to them in WW2 and what they thought of blonde slavs and slavs in general.:p


http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1353/gypsies18hw5at.jpg

BTW why does this guy have the name Volk? lol silly slavs trying to be germanized.

[Ptolemy]

I never heard any greek saying that the ancient greeks were blonde and blue eyed.....infact they had dark hair and eyes. Just like most greeks have today. Of course there are greeks with blue eyes and blond hair, this is because of influence of other people within the greek gene pool.

Unfortunately there is a notion, mainly among Greeks of diaspora, that ancient Greeks were blond with blue eyes. I have heard it many times from Greek-Americans (mostly these stories are coming from their grandmothers - oi gnostes "istories" pou metadidontai apo stoma se stoma) and i am tired all the time to explain them that the typical ancient Greek had dark hair and eyes.

[Amarantos]

http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/press/lestweforget/scan0030.jpg

and this is what the skopjians just don't dig!!!!
All the rest they say show only what miserable morons they are.

[Amyntas]

is anyone able to read the whole text on that pic? would be nice if someone could just write it down here for me :)

[Voulgaroktonos]

Courtesy of New York Journal - American

Greece will never die. She could not, indeed; for the is more of Western life and Western hope in a handful of dust on the Acropolis than in all the makeshift religions, philosophies and new orders that have come from the disearred (I cant read that word exactly) brains in Berlin

A.A Berle, Jr.
Assistant Secretary of State.






@Amarantos, you should see this picture on the front of a skop church in melbourne which has Alexander the Great spearing a Tsolia ;)

[akritas]

is anyone able to read the whole text on that pic? would be nice if someone could just write it down here for me :)

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/319/scan00307by.jpg

[admin]

I would really like to debate with a clever, intelligent, and smart Skopjian. I have looked for years and have never found one... either they are not educated well or really are not open minded. They remind me of the English in the dark ages... Thats what happens when the knowledge of Greeks is lost temporarily... sad stuff really.

Arthur C Clarke Said that if not for the Greek wars with the Turks, Man would have been in Space a thousand years earlier.... :)

[Amarantos]

@Amarantos, you should see this picture on the front of a skop church in melbourne which has Alexander the Great spearing a Tsolia ;)

The role of the skopjian church is very easy to understand.If one only reflects on the fact that it was practicaly established and baptised with the name it uses,by a communist regime :wacko: that had one precise aim.A complete joke.Just another propaganda tool.What a pity it acts like this though.

[Amyntas]

I would really like to debate with a clever, intelligent, and smart Skopjian. I have looked for years and have never found one... either they are not educated well or really are not open minded. They remind me of the English in the dark ages... Thats what happens when the knowledge of Greeks is lost temporarily... sad stuff really.

Arthur C Clarke Said that if not for the Greek wars with the Turks, Man would have been in Space a thousand years earlier.... :)

I found a skop on a german forum who seems to be pretty open minded i dont know about his english but i ll ask him about coming here :)

[akritas]

I think I was banned there in 4 posts. I got a warning after the second.

I posted quotations that went against thier beliefs (Greeks are a mixture of everyone & a small Hellenic portion may remanin) & it was deemed 'offensive to the members'.

Next time I'm in Solun, I'm gonna look up Chukalo. See if he'll speak to Kassander the way he writes on the net

by Kassander (aka Kassandra)

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1602

Look how a Skopjan say LIES as usual. Kassander is still member of the forum and never banned.He or better She posted 12 times!!!!

I will waiting you dear big mouth. Just PM if you have the axamna dear Kassandra :p

[akritas]

The term "Makedonen" doesn't exist in the German language either
by Makedon_Epoch
http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1151165443/last-1151419866/All+Macedonia+-+All+the+time

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Maybe this site
http://makedonen.know-library.net/ (http://makedonen.know-library.net/)


is a product of the Greek propagnda
:clapping: :clapping:

"Mazedonen - ein modernes, slawischsprachiges Volk, siehe Slawische Mazedonier"

This statement is strange Akritas? It contains words that are not even part of the German language? I took this one to my colleagues, and they agreed that this statement doesn't make sense.
by Makedon_Epoche
any German speaker to help in the translation please..My Germans are not good.
Are those Deutsche Wörter ???
any help...please

[Amyntas]

I speak german, i m born in germany and this is pure german language ;) :D

[Voulgaroktonos]

the avatar of one of the skops on maknews with aristotle:

http://www.maknews.com/forum/images/avatars/gallery/main/palatica.gif

the avatar of struja with zeus:

http://www.maknews.com/forum/images/avatars/gallery/main/zeus.jpg

[akritas]

this is the result of a brainwash person:wacko: :dry:


Samoil was a Macedonian native, he is not a Proto-Bulgar nor a Bulgar, the Empire was called Bulgarian just like that of the Germans was called Roman. It never ends with you people, the same shiit everyday, if what you wrote above makes us Bulgarian, then be sure to remind all the Germans and modern Greeks that they have no medieval history and it all belongs to the Italians as they are the rightful heirs of the Roman name.


by komitadji

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1151618705/last-1151703148/RACIAL+WHAT-------

[Amyntas]

I just had my history exam 2 weeks ago...and i remember that german empire that is called in german "das heilige römische reich deutscher nation" (eng.: Holy Roman Empire of German Nation) that "Roman" was just because of an alliance with the Katholic Pope......

[akritas]

I just had my history exam 2 weeks ago...and i remember that german empire that is called in german "das heilige römische reich deutscher nation" (eng.: Holy Roman Empire of German Nation) that "Roman" was just because of an alliance with the Katholic Pope......
Giourkas the Skopjan use this argyment a lot.Can you scan the page and bring us ? In German of course.

[Amyntas]

No scanner :wacko: but i googled a bit

http://www.dasheiligereich.de/

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiliges_R%C3%B6misches_Reich_Deutscher_Nation#Der _Name_des_Reiches

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire (english wikipedia has it too)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Names_and_designations_of_the_em pire

http://www.uni-muenster.de/FNZ-Online/recht/reich/unterpunkte/nation.htm (german university)

I could go on like this for a whole week..........

[akritas]

can anyone tell me about the Macedonian gods and pagan beliefs. If there is any book(s),sites,etc on it or if some of my Macedonian brothers have some info on them it would be greatly appreciated as I want to learn more about religious beliefs :clapping: before Aleksandar paved the way for Christianity:clapping:
by goce

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1645

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :clap2: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[akritas]

About the language I can tell you that antic macedonians were not speaking greek becouse romans give the power to Ciril and Metodious to develop a alphabet for the language spoken in Macedonia which was not Greek off course.

by zangelovski1


:clapping:http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/rba_daily7316;_ylt=Aje7cFS9SL0Vk6QryDnXjcShO84F;_y lu=X3oDMTBjamtzcG1mBHNlYwNoei1zdG9yeQ--?rf=78#comments :clap2: :boohoo: :w00t: :hyper: :toiletsmi


Ti eipe o poihths!!!!!!!!!!!
What the poet said!!!!!!!!!!

[Amyntas]

i love this thread, it like a tv show and everytime I see that there are new postings here its like a new episode is starting :lol:

[Ptolemy]

Is anyone reading the comments of the yahoo adventure in skopgypsyland?

Listen to this one.
http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=910#comments


Joke no2. A 'macedonian' (western Bulgarian) student got back at home and told his father - I have two news for you a bad and a good! Tell me the bad - said his father. I have poor on math - mumbled the son You have poor on math ? Uuuh...yes, but I have excellent on history! I know that you will have excellent on history ITS ONLY ONE PAGE!!! BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by bulgarian_pride on Thu, Jul 13, 2006 6:43 PM ET

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Ptolemy]

Skopjan logic...:lol:

...Fact No. 1: Here is an original quote from Quintus Curtius Rufus - a Roman historian; one of the most reliable historical sources for Alexander of Macedonia or simply Alexander the Macedonian (not "the Great", not even "of greece"). In his book - "History of Alexander the Macedonian" (in original: "De rebus gestis Alexandri Macedonis" written III centuries after Alexander's death, Curtius describes Alexander: "He had white tan on his skin, and on his cheeks and chest he had daintily blush; his hair was blond, slightly curly; he had nose as an eagle, and his eyes different: they say that his left eye was dark green, and the other one quite dark. But in his eyes he had some kind of a concealed strength, in a way that nobody could look in him with out respect and some sort of a strange fear... " So my question is: WHERE DO YOU SO CALLED "MODERN GREEKS" FIT IN THIS DISCTIPTION? WHAT HAVE YOU IN COMMEN WITH THIS DISCRIPTION OF ALEXANDER?...Posted by vicikus on Mon, Jul 17, 2006 7:40 AM ET

The famous quote "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" applies entirely to this moron.

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=1447#comments

[paniskos]

in the macedonia highlands under the hellenic sky

[Slayer]

had some grkomani in Egejska Makedonia boasting about how the greek language in this region was the purest in all of greece. You know, compared to those greeks from the south. After removing the knife from my heart ... I promptly replied that it is quite reasonable to assume that a region with no history of the language would not have the literary handicap of dialects to deal with. Therefore it is more than likely that this region will speak a very pure form of this new language.

I am sure you would agree with my observation.

pozdrav
Risto the Great

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1680

No history? Don`t they have an excuse thet Greek was an international language for trade therefore that is the reason why there are thousands of Greek inscriptions dating back over 2000 years in Macedonia, Didn`t the apostle speak and write in Greek in Macedonia?
Wasn`t Greek the language of the Byzantine empire, wasn`t Macedonia part of the Byzantine empire? Didn`t two Greek brothers translate Greek Christian texts into Slavic texts 1200 yeras after Alexander? Isn`t mount Athos part of Macedonia, aren't the monastaries mostly Greek?

[Slayer]

Quote by KM

Greeks are language nazi's, I can't see this theory fly anywhere south of mt olympus

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1680

If only KM was right, if anything the Greeks especialy the young are destroying the language, that`s what I notice in Greece last year..For once I wished one of them was right.

[Flipper]

This one seen today in the comments on Bangs article:

The rosetta stone is written in Egyptian, Greek and Macedonian.

[Voulgaroktonos]

This one seen today in the comments on Bangs article:

The rosetta stone is written in Egyptian, Greek and Macedonian.

I dont know why, considering the amount of "monty python worthy" posts in this thread already, but I read this and felt so fucking angry. how fucking pathetic can these people get.

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. GAMO TA SKOPIA SAS

[Minon]

May I remind you of Goebbels?
His statements about propaganda are very accurate.
A good example:

"truth" is a "message" repeated 1000 times.

This is what Skopjians are doing. (probably, they have said the same BS so many times, they actually believe that it's the truth)

[Orphic_Hymn]

I dont know why, considering the amount of "monty python worthy" posts in this thread already, but I read this and felt so fucking angry. how fucking pathetic can these people get.

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. GAMO TA SKOPIA SAS

They continue it and posted it in another unsigned (of course) trash article titled : "Eight wonders of Macedonia" (http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/20060707/rba_daily/rba_daily7316)

) The Rosetta Stone

Discovered in Egypt in 1799, the writings on the Rosetta Stone date to 196 B.C. The text is transcribed in three languages, and the stone is considered a critical key to deciphering ancient script, especially the hieroglyphics of ancient Egypt. Just last month Macedonian scholars said that the third language on the stone was Macedonian, and not a form of ancient Egyptian known as Demotic, as had been thought. It makes sense: the Macedonians ruled Egypt under Alexander the Great and his appointed regent, Ptolemy Sotir, founder of the last dynasty. For more on the Rosetta Stone, visit Wikipedia.

The funniest part of the whole story, is that their source for further reading, wiki.. actually trashes their claim..

The Rosetta Stone is a stone with writing on it in two languages (Egyptian and Greek), using three scripts (hieroglyphic, demotic and Greek).The Rosetta Stone is written in three scripts because when it was written, there were three scripts being used in Egypt. The first was hieroglyphic which was the script used for important or religious documents.The second was demotic which was the common script of Egypt.The third was Greek which was the language of the rulers of Egypt at that time.

These people are simply pittyfull.:lol: :lol:

[The Blood of Dorus]

The "Eight wonders of Macedonia" website - Oops! Looks like they stuffed up their editing here:

Heraclea

Founded by Phillip II of Macedon and named for the hero Heracles, this fourth century B.C. town stands today as monument to Macedonia's classic past. When the Romans conquered Macedonia in the second century B.C., Heraclea became a main stop on the Romans' newly constructed Via Egnatia (see below). Before World War I, archaeologists found a small theater ticket (for row 14 out of 20) made of bone. Two world wars prevented further excavation, so it was not until decades later that archaeologists unearthed the 20-row gladiator theater in the center of town, and an early Christian basilica with mosaics depicting a menagerie of exotic and mythical animals on its floors. The Greeks built many cities named Heraclea; this one is known as Heraclea Lyncestis.
http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rba_daily/20060707/rba_daily/rba_daily7316

[Ptolemy]

From the same site...A skop replying to a girls post about Rosetta stone and ancient Macedonian writings.

Regarding blackbeltkoukla and no Macedonian writings. In those times it didn't matter where you came from or what your nationality was. Everyone wrote in Greek, whether you were Roman, Turkish, Macedonian, etc. It was the written language. In Roman times if you were Greek, Jewish, etc, the language and alphatbet were Roman. And to tell you the truth, Greece wasn't even Greece back then. You were either Athenian, Spartan, Creten or, yes, Macedonian! You know that saying the Greeks have, "Macedonia is Greece." Well, I think "Greece is Macedonia" Read you history a little bit more, you'll be better iformed. "Makdaddi"Posted by dragan.c@rogers.com on Thu, Jul 20, 2006 9:09 PM ET

[Ptolemy]

I think we found the winner!! Marjaneva for President!!:clapping:

Antic Macedonians has spoken HIS ANTIK MACEDON language, what other people from Balkan doesnt understand, and Aleksander King of MACEDON has spoken one more language that is from his mother Olympia, and that was an Old EPIRUS language, close to old Yunistian (Athenian) language.
Posted by marjaneva on Sun, Jul 23, 2006 2:22 PM ET

:wacko: :wacko:


What are you talking above what anticue thesaloniki, it was from always SOLUNIKA (SOLUN!) Even Bulgarians what you blame on it too, they saying SOLUN, Turks saying SELANIK, you renamed in tesaloniki in middle of last century, including 1665 mor places cities, villages, streets, rivers, etc...etc.... and you now what: you hawe hidden that yust like ostrich head in the sand, but everyhting else is outside!!! Nobody cant Never Ever Hidden the THRUT!
Posted by marjaneva on Sun, Jul 23, 2006 3:01 PM ET

She is right. You evil Greeks Dont hide the THRUT!!! :lol:

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3160#comments

[nsminc]

I didn't see the previous pages but look what I found posted:

1-
Even before Alexander the Great, Macedonia evoked power from which to steer clear. When the ancient Greeks held the Olympics they forbade the participation of the mountainous neighbor to the north because the hunter-warriors there were too strong, too fast, too good — favored by the geographic and genetic equivalent of steroids. It was believed the Macedonians were descendants of Zeus, after all. When Alexander decided to enter the Olympics, he proved the dread justifiable: he won. Then again, he was the emperor.

Alexander had proven himself a brilliant general and decisive conqueror even before his father, Phillip II of Macedon, died. Then, between 336 and 323 B.C., the young leader embarked on a mission to conquer and unite the known world, becoming what some have called the first true global leader — bringing classic Greek (and Macedonian) culture as far north as the Danube, east to India, south to the Nile. The last Egyptian pharoahs were Macedonian, the Ptolemaic Dynasty, descendants of Alexander's general Ptolemy Soter.

After Alexander died, at the seasoned age of 32, Macedonia became the Catena Mundi, the link between the worlds, the mystic cultural crossroads, the nexus of epochs. Over the following millennia almost everyone passed across this junction, most of them to put the stamp of conquest on it — the Romans, the Huns, the Goths, the Normans, the Byzantines, the Bulgarians, the Ottomans, the Serbs, and of course the Germans during World War II.

After the war, the core of this country was assimilated into Yugoslavia as its southernmost province, and for 47 years it endured the ignominy of anonymity. But in 1991 the nationalistic spirit reasserted itself, and bloodlessly it re-created a nation, the Republic of Macedonia.

2-Well... Let's start this...
Present day Macedonia.. has ancient macedonians' and slavic blood... Alexander the Macedonian (or the great) as greeks love to say because it's a threat for them if the ethnic borders of the real macedonia will be back to present day Macedonia.. as it should be.. Give me some good facts to prove that i am wrong.... i don't think you can... The history is clear.. The history says present day macedonians are related with ancient macedonians.. The hellens.. or hellada.. didn't even exist that time as a country.. they were like city states.... and they didn't love each other... Alexander the Macedonian connected them together and as every smart macedonian, he used their toughness because he didn't want to have a war with someone who got nothing but rocks...

Bulgarians, we taught you tha language you speak.. Kiril and Metodij did. What do you say about your propaganda and fake VMRO? you are all fake.. all of your country is fake.. you came here on that land before being tatars... then mixing with slavs.. and that's it.. you don't have any macedonian blood... I don't want any greek to speak about similarity of bulgarian and macedonian language... because macedonian language is connected with all slavic languages.. and what? they are all macedonians or otherwise? what about cyprus greeks? that's turkish? or macedonian? or greek? what do you say..? it was macedonian at first.. then turkish now half is greek half turkish... right? you're just making fronts everywhere.. Republic of Macedonia was recognized by Russia, USA, and China.. and a lot more countries.. That means they are recognizing our history too.. not yours.. They are the biggest countries in the world right? or greece is? anyway.. just reply.. we'll see what you have to say my dearest macedonians....

3-
Skopje is not a serbian city... and kosovo is not serbian teritory , not anymore... Macedonia has it's own part of greece and it's own part of Bulgaria. The macedonian church was the first ortodox church. In Ohrid. You know where the name russia comes from? From the word "rus" which only exist in macedonian language that is spoken today in the resent day macedonia. That is a word for blondes, like russians are. Yes Mr. Serbian... I'll be much more civilized then you and i'll not offend you like you do all the time. Maybe you want big serbia... but that is just a wish... you don't have sea anymore.. right? Milosevic wanted the same as you.. and do you know where he finished?)))) You are all macedonians, but betradors.. and just want to be something else.. beleive me you are worst then albanians that live in Kosovo. I totally beleive them now... You are terrorists and want everything for you...
OK. I made a lot of people laugh, but they made just a grin. You are so afraid from the truth.. because it's just like you know the truth about death. Greece will not longer exist if the ethnic borders are back. By the Bucurest contract.. in 2013 Pirin and Aegian Macedonia should be given back to the present day MACEDONIA!!! THE REAL MACEDONIA!!! Be happy that you have 7 more years. Don't try to make borders with serbia, because they are further away from you now. They lost Kosovo... You are gonna loose Golden Cemeria... They lost their sea... You see when you want just more... You will lose everything...!!! Just count the people living in USA, Russia, China and the other smaller countries that recognized us... That's a half of the world... and please shut up... if you don't want the bucurest contract make true!!!
Thank you!!!

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

[Voulgaroktonos]

I didn't see the previous pages but look what I found posted:

1-
Even before Alexander the Great, Macedonia evoked power from which to steer clear. When the ancient Greeks held the Olympics they forbade the participation of the mountainous neighbor to the north because the hunter-warriors there were too strong, too fast, too good — favored by the geographic and genetic equivalent of steroids. It was believed the Macedonians were descendants of Zeus, after all. When Alexander decided to enter the Olympics, he proved the dread justifiable: he won. Then again, he was the emperor.


The amount of times Ive seen Skops mix up Alexander the 3rd with Alex the 1st is ridiculous.

the funniest thing is how he keeps referring to bucharest treaty. As if the Bucharest treaty mentioned a macedonian ethnicity and not just Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians.

Why dont these clowns try and come up with a consensus line for their bullshit instead of making it worse. Seeing as no macedonian race was ever mentioned in any treaty, why dont they say that EVERYONE, and EVERY western power conspired against them:rolleyes:

[nsminc]

"The macedonian church was the first ortodox church."


:huh: :huh: :huh:

[Ptolemy]

If you carefully study the articles and facts on the site: http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/ you will learn that the Macedonians that lived 4000 years ago, spoked on almost the same languagen, as the todays Macedonians speak.

:worshippy :worshippy

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3491#comments

[Ptolemy]

According to the many years of painstaking researching, it could be concluded that these Balkan spaces the Macedonians did not steale from nowhere, but they are instead aborigines at least from the period of the matriarch, that is from the time of the great Macedonian mythological empire on three continents; the Macedonians are the oldest people with their own language and their own sound (phonetic) alphabet with a specific but variable social order through the millenniums with a rich four generation old mythology which from monotheism and polytheism (chaos, uran geae with the titans and titanesses, cyclopes and hundred handedones), kron - rhea with the sons Zeus - ruler of the world, Poseidon - ruler of the seas and Hades - ruler of the underworld, so the daughters: Hestia, Demetra and Hera, that is the almighty mischievous 12 olimpic gods among which Macedon too, the eponym of Macedonia and with whom inviolably rules Zeus who sees everything, knows every thing and can do everything and he is helped by his sister and wife Hera, later on turns into a monotheistic religion (Zeus - Maria and their son Jesus Christ, that is the son of god "sos krstot" (with the cross)) with a science which was made up of "higher" and "lower" sciences, with a graded system of education with it own oldest prehistoric rulers who were named zets (son - in - laws) and who with the oldest prehistoric form of ruling who had the zeting (son - in - lawing) and after that in the developed dynastic period that is in the IVth cent B.C. as a narrower form of the united kingdom of upper and lower Macedonia created, that is renewed a historic empire across three continents 3.8 million square kilometres big which in the later historic period via the roman, byzantine, turkish empire left its own noticeable influence unto the development of culture and humanity.

Vasil Ilyov :clapping:

http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/spomenici-e.htm

Reading this, Darwin would NOT be pleased to see how inefficiently evolution sometimes works!!!

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Quote:
If you carefully study the articles and facts on the site: http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians-part2/ you will learn that the Macedonians that lived 4000 years ago, spoked on almost the same languagen, as the todays Macedonians speak.


:worshippy :worshippy

http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=3491#comments


Is it gentically possible for human beings to be this stupid?

[Ptolemy]

tsakirides Alexander's father was not called Filipos he was called Philip
Posted by jvtmv on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:16 AM ET

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[Ptolemy]

aha! so let me go through it again, he fought the greeks in a period when persia had planning an invasion of the Greek cities. ok now can you guess why? cuz i sure can't. why would he fight agains athenians and spartians and trojans all together when danger was coming from persia???
Posted by dtr_bt on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 7:05 AM ET

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH Sorry couldnt help it!!!

[Ptolemy]

I just went to have my daily "come and laugh" minute with the skopjans at yahoo adventure and our latest pearls are:

bumbarbt, excellent quotes-all facts! As for the meaning of the word MACEDONIA it comes from the great goddess ( from the matriarchal age) called "MA". The figure of this goddess is found all over Macedonia.(dating from the Neolithic age). And MACEDONIA means - MOTHERLAND.
Posted by vicikus on Thu, Jul 27, 2006 6:00 AM ET

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Remember when I asked if it was genetically possible for humans to be as stupid as the Skops advocating this stuff? Well apparently their "grandparents" passed on some hearty genes.

[akritas]

Yes its true. Tsar Dushan was entitled:
Macedonian Tsar, Lord of all Serbs and Romans.


by Slovák


King Dushan titled himself as macedonian king Dushan and that you hear it first time is not surprising, you still have to learn some things about macedonian history. And we don't say he is a macedonian king although his main theritory and capital (Skopje) was also in Macedonia...

Bitola inscription is not sure it is original and you must know about it...


As for Cyril and Methodius please (but really) show me ANY historical source claiming their greek nationality!!! Please do it! As far as I know such source is not existing and we can presume that they may very well be macedonian ethnicity since macedonians were majority in this part of Byzantiom...
by Antioch

[Foti66]

Hello All (first time poster here),

I found this on the adventures yahoo website and was stunned by the logic this guy used. I had to share. I edited the original post because it was too long.

First post written by a brilliant Fyromian observer.

I was in Pela and in Vergina,too.I VISITED VIRGINA WITH MY FRENDS FROM CROATIA, SLOVENIA AND WHEN THEY SOW THE VILAGE THEIR FIRST REACTION WAS: O MY GOD! HERE IS EVERYTHING LIKE IN YOUR MACEDONIA.AND ABOUT THE ROYAL TOMB.DID YOU NOTE SOME VERY IMPORTANT THING THERE? I DID THIS. PLEASE, WHAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SIGN OF ANICENT GREEKS: IT WAS OLIVE BRUNCH. AND WHAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SIGN OF ANICENT MCEDONIANS: IT WAS OACEN BRUNCH. DID YOU SEE THAT IN ALL OF FHILIP'S THING STARTING OF HIS CROWN, HIS HORSE CROWN, HIS WOMEN CROWN, EVERY WHERE THERE WAS OAKEN BRUNCH. AND, DO YOU KNOU THAT HERE IN MACEDONIA EVERY YEAR ON CHRISTMAS EVE, ALL MACEDONIANC COLLECT OAKEN BRUNCH AND PUT THEM IN FRONT OF THEIR DOORS FOR HAPPY NEW YEAR. DO YOU HAVE THE SAME TRADITION IN GREESE?

The reply by a thoughtful individual.

I eat chocolate bunnies at Easter time does that mean the Easter bunny exists? You think Fyrom is the only place in the world that hangs wreaths on their doors at Christmas time?? Seriously! There are tribes in Ghana that do also, they have Ancient Macedonian ancestry too? I guess you overlooked all the Greek inscriptions and Greek motifs and the formal Greek burial arrangements, rights and offerings at Vergina? You overlooked the Greek names that are inscribed on stelae like Alcetas, Philotas, Theophanes, Leander and others?? Are you sure you got further than the car park there? I really can't understand how you would miss so much critical information.

Original link:
http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228?rf=8033#comments

[Ptolemy]

I looked the same url. Skops seem to create fake greek profiles. Take a look to this "greek_gay_69" moron.

[akritas]

Modern Bulgarians are escential Tartars,Thracians and Macedonians.


bulgarians have stealed the language from macedonians and occupy a part of macedonia

by jovan tasevski

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13393


Wanna be brainwash Skopjan idiot!!!:laugh: :laugh:

[admin]

:lol: some golden stuff there...

[akritas]

Moutska -- Moutsina -- Moustaki -- Mouska

Mouth -- Lips -- Moustache -- Suck

No ancient Greek sources required.

Perhaps the ancient Greeks and the ancient Macedonians had a common root for this term. Perhaps there is an older Indo European term waiting to appear.

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

bravo to Battle of Cannae!!!!:)
moustache came from the dorian word mystax

Ο Λούμπι θα έχει ξυρίσει ήδη τα μουστάκια του :laugh:

[Ptolemy]

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)


Lubi Uzunovski??? the "chairman" of an alledged 'Canadian Macedonian Human Rights Committee' writing letters to the greek state officials???

What a small world!

http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/english/pressrelease/cama19-9-98.html

some more infos here.

http://www.macedonianhr.org.au/pollitecon.htm

[akritas]

The poor ancient Greeks didn't know how to distinguish, mouth, jaw, chewing, gnashing of teeth, upper lip and moustache.

You'll pardon us but most Anglo etymologies end at Greek because that's as far as they ever researched. That's the limit of their idyllic knowledge base.

You have to wonder where the ancient Greeks got it from. Doesn't stoma also mean mouth?

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

Skopjan Lubi continue his Makedonski etymologies:laugh: :laugh:

Maybe the medical terms (95% Greek origin) also are came from the invisible ancient nation, that you and Stefou try to teach in your funs.

Gnathos,stomion,Siagonas, xeilos are unknown words from the brainwash Skopjans like Lubi Uzunovski

Battle of Cannae good, job:clapping:

[Ptolemy]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m308/Balkanman/NavalBattleofNavarinobyCarneray1827.jpg

It was painted by Carneray in 1827. It is an oil painting of a Naval Battle of Navarino. What is the flag in the middle of the painting?! Red backbround with what APPEARS TO BE A YELLOW 16-RAY VERGINA STAR IN THE MIDDLE... looks very similar to the old Macedonian flag doesn't it? You know the flag Greece made Macedonia change

by one Aleksandar the great

Skopjan retards really believe that...Turks used a flag...with the 16-ray Vergina flag in...Navarino :laugh:

and i found out this pic with the help of Orphic that inthe end the so called ...vergina star flag...was essentially...the ol' ottoman crescent flag. :laugh:

http://www.culture.gr/4/42/421/42104/42104a/00/lk04a004.jpg

The turkish ottoman flag with the characteristic yellow crescent

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Ottoman_Sultanate1453-1844.png

Ehm skopjans dont know it yet. I guess they will humiliate themselves publicly for about some time in the forums claiming that carneray painting of Navarino had a 'macedonian' flag and when they find it out their argument will be 'ottoman propagandists changed their 'macedonian' flag to a yellow crescent!!! :clapping: :lol:

[Ptolemy]

The same Aleksander of macedon in his latest spasmodic seizure from the same private group!!!


ALEXANDER I OF MACEDON SPEAKING TO ATHENEANS:


17.
Quote:
"Men of Athens... Had I not greatly AT HEART the COMMON welfare of GREECE I should not have come to tell you; but I AM MYSELF GREEK by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. ...If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the GREEK CAUSE, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am ALEXANDER of MACEDON.'"

[ Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45, translated by G.Rawlinson]


----------------------------------------------------
He is Alexander of Macedon damn right... NOT Alexander of Helles/Hellas. As far as him stating "Greek cause" Alexander had plans to TAKE OVER HELLAS from the beginning... he tried to do it without force and a strategy he used was saying "it was a greek cause" "I am you... i am greek" etc etc... smart guy
--------


Ladies & Gentlemen, in world premiere we learn that Alexander I the Philhellene wanted to...TAKE OVER HELLAS and that the title 'Alexander of Macedon"... proves he was not Greek!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Amyntas]

So Leonidas of Sparta wasnt greek eighter but ethnic spartan :lol::lol::lol:

[Hellas7]

re paidia, this is to much. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

OMG, this is too much.

I wish I could find the quote where they claimed to be Romans as well. Did any of you see that post anywhere? It was ridiculous. The Italians wouldn't even dignify it with a response, much like we used to do with those ridiculous claims. We now have to address them of course.

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)

Skopjan Lubi continue his Makedonski etymologies:laugh: :laugh:

Maybe the medical terms (95% Greek origin) also are came from the invisible ancient nation, that you and Stefou try to teach in your funs.

Gnathos,stomion,Siagonas, xeilos are unknown words from the brainwash Skopjans like Lubi Uzunovski

Battle of Cannae good, job:clapping:

Is Lubi really that stupid is Lubi just trying to be a master propagandist? No brains, and no class. Wonderful combination:wacko: :rolleyes: .

[The Blood of Dorus]

Another classic from Slovak - he thinks that Thalassa is a place name, he believes that Proto Indo-European is Slavic, that Slavs are Proto Indo-Europeans, that Greek does not originate from the Proto Indo-European language and that Greeks "were born from the original Slavic population of Balkans and the oversea newcomers". My God, unbelievable.

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1632&start=40

Ok, I never been to Korinthos or Thalassa, but as for Zeus, I'm not nearly convinced.
Greek and Slavic do not originate from Proto Indo-European as this language was the same as Ancient Slavic. The oldest writings in Sanskrit that are over 5.000 years old (or even older) can be easily compared to modern Slavic with words intelligable over 50%. It is a fact that Slavs were once inhabiting large parts of the Old World but not as Slavs but as Proto Indo-Europeans. Certain tribes mingled with other and distanced themselves from the majority, this majority today we call Slavs. Greeks were born from the original Slavic population of Balkans and the oversea newcomers.
Slavs and Indians changed from the oldest Indo-Europeans much less than others so in these languages lies the key to discovering what this language was, not Greek, Romance or Germanic.

[Sol_Invictus]

The Skopian Global Task : TO ENTERTAIN THE WORLD POPULATION!!! :clap2: :worshippy

The ONLY state in the world that EXISTS for this reason...

[Ptolemy]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

[Amyntas]

carnival ? :lol::lol: you can buy those for your kids to dress up for carnival :lol::lol:

[Greece2006]

I can't believe how far they go. Is this picture taken in Fyrom?

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

WOW, they really are little people. An insult to all smaller adults really.

[Istor]

Apparently they are getting ready to spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World, like ancient Macedonians !!!!

:)

[Ptolemy]

Apparently they are getting ready to spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World, like ancient Macedonians !!!!

:)

You forgot, naming their new cities with greek names :lol:

[akritas]

dedicated to Istor


Axios is the Macedonian name*1, because Macedonians are related to other Mediterraneans and do not show a close relationship with Greeks; however they do with Cretans. This supports the theory that Macedonians are one of the most ancient peoples exsiting in the Balakn peninsula, probably long before arrival of the Mycaenian civilization about 2000 B.C.

by Axios
άξιος, άξιος , άξιος... αει σιχτήρ:laugh: :laugh:

http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?t=1457

[HellenicPride]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3968/hpim6496yb3.jpg

Couldnt stop laughing when i saw this. How far stupid will these skopjans be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look the face of the second one. :laugh:

Hahahahahahaha lol hahahahahah you gotta be kidding me! That has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life!:lol: They are so insecure that they have to attempt to dress like Ancient Greek Macedonian soldiers this way they feel what? Fullfilled? Hahahahahaha:lol:

[Istor]

Akrita, you refer to the river, right ??

Well the name is Axios beyond any doubt, because this is the name that Homer had (Macedonians were fans of Homer) and because this is the name that Euripides has in tragedy Bacckhae written (and thus played) in Macedonia.

[akritas]

Akrita, you refer to the river, right ??

Well the name is Axios beyond any doubt, because this is the name that Homer had (Macedonians were fans of Homer) and because this is the name that Euripides has in tragedy Bacckhae written (and thus played) in Macedonia.
Yes Istor. The funny derivation came from a Skopjan member that use as usename the name of the river
ΑΞΙΟΣ-ΑΞΙΟΣ-ΑΞΙΟΣ:laugh:

[Amyntas]

how about giving an award to the "dumbest skopian of the year" ? i mean we have alot of people who you make a decent competition :P

[akritas]

I have it in my mind.The voting will start in couple months:)

[akritas]

Alexander could not defeat some tribes in the indian region when he decided to leave the victorious tribes th said to them in macedonian PA KI STANI which means it will happen again.""
by voden


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:clap2: unlimited brainwash:clap2:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1156308450/last-1156578720/Alexander+Spread+Hellenism-++Not+according+to+Berkley+U

[Amyntas]

well a yearly award isnt enough if you ask me. We should make it "dumbest skop of the month" because we have more than enough shit from them to give away a monthly award :laugh:

[Hellas7]

It's not a one liner, but please read the end of page 5 and page 6:

http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?t=1457&page=5


I don't know what to say.

[pankration]

There are some real morons on that site especially Lion of Macedon. For a good laugh take a look.

[Istor]

I desagree!

It would be really hard to choose one !!
:)

Even the most "enlightened" SalvoSkopian propagandists have their imbecile times!!

[akritas]

:laugh: :clapping: COINE language is NOT GREEK. IT'S MACEDONIAN.:clap2: :clapping: :laugh: :laugh:
by adzigogov2001
:laugh: :clap2: :laugh: :clapping:
http://www.balkanium.com/showthread.php?p=21760&posted=1#post21760

[Euklid]

Tell me, why you do not have the blue hair if you are the descendants of Alehader Macedonian?

Man these Fyromians, actually do fill up your boring days.

The March of the Fyromians at the statue is ideal for Bloopers.

[Ptolemy]

A new contestant...

This article is about places to visit in Macedonia, so it's totaly irelevant what greeks will comment. Althought i can write kilometres of text about this I'll try to be short :) First Macedonian that attended Olimpics is Alexander I Filhellen, some 150 years before Alexander the Great. Filhellen = Friend of Greeks. You shouldn't be a genius to understand that greek can't be a friend of his own people. All the greek city states united against Filip II, which destroyed greek cities and temples. Greeks never did that. Alexander the Great was impresed by greek culture (which was far more developed than Macedonian in that time), and tried to spread that culture in Macedonia and places which he conquered. That doesn't makes him greek. Macedonians don't speak the same language as our anchients because the influence of slavic people that came here and mixed with them. So maybe we are half the same as Alexander. Still that's 50% more than Greeks. And finally, yes Solun is in Greece. But since when? Solun (which Greeks in 1925 renamed it in Thessaloniki) was ocupied in 1913. Majority of Macedonians living in Aegeian Macedonia were expeled from Greece in 1949 after the civil war. Today in Greece live 80-100 000 Macedonians that doesn't have basic human rights. Before 1949 there were about 1 000 000 Macedonians, so everithing that happen in Aegeian Macedonian after 1949 is Greek, before that is anything but greek.


by one j_strezovski

from http://adventures.yahoo.com/b/adventures/adventures7228;_ylt=AgcLjrQgT_RIk7Y1w1.J0GzCW8sF?r f=9145#comments


Human idiocy along with ignorance in its highest order!! :clapping:

[Minon]

Well, here's the proof that skopians have contributed a lot to world cuisine.

Waffles > wafeles > afeles > feles > qfeles > qveles > qvales

Skopians should also claim that they're the ones that discovered waffles.
(still laughing-sorry I couldn't help it)

Do they actually believe that most greek words are slavic?

[The Blood of Dorus]

Lunacy which knows no bounds - Slovak on the Rosetta Stone:

My point is that the second (and to those who didn't know, the first as well) is written with two languages. If we read it in Egyptian we have an Egyptian text. If we read it in Slavic we have a Slavic text. And that is not an isolated case. Most Egyptian hieroghlyphs have Slavic meaning to them.

And the astounding conclusion:

Many hieroglyphic texts hold hidden meanings that can be read using a Slavic language.

http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1821&start=40

[Slayer]

To my Macedonian freinds, I hope by the end of September ....I will start compiling Greek signatures for the recognition of Macedonia.

Also a recognition of the Macedonian minority in Greece.

This is `a long time coming

ilir in Maknews

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1842

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[akritas]

However, the Ilyrians were named after Ilios. Today that land is inhabited by Croats and Serbs (ancd Bosnian and Montenegrins) and their names also derive from the Sun: Hor and Sur.

By Slovak
:clap2: :clap2:
http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

[Slayer]

Hello all, last nite i was talking with my grandfather and i mentioned Kutlesh he told me to call the city Vergina when i asked why he said that its the citys real name and was founded by Macedonians a long time ago it was a place of worship. He also explained that the name derived from the macedonian words VERA and NEGINA

by gornichvo

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

[Slayer]

Slovak wrote:

Because Greek word Vergina is a Macedonian word Vergina i.e. both Kutlesh and Vergina are Macedonian. Here's your kindergarden diploma.


We all know the name of the town is Kutlesh and it is how the Macedonians call it. However the name Greeks call, Vergina, is a Macedonian word, so both names are Macedonian. I see what your pointing out, that Kutlesh is the real name of the town. But we are here discussing the origin of the words not the name of the town.

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

[Slayer]

And my favourite of them all at maknews Soldier_of_Macedon:

They are both Macedonian names and both correct. Kutlesh is more recent, Vergina more ancient, personally, I myself, although aware of both terms, use Vergina more often than Kutlesh. Vergina is as much a Greek word as Edessa.

http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853

[Amyntas]

yeah lets just ignore the ancient name "Aigai" :rolleyes:

[akritas]

The Macedonian city was originally named by a MACEDONIAN, due to the GREKK CULTURAL INFLUENCE in that era the city was given a Greek name, however the natives also had their own way of saying it, and they say it alternatively but it still represents the SAME THING.

by komitadji (aka Soldier of Macedon) or BARUFAS

http://www.network54.com/Forum/64595/thread/1157440470/last-1157925526/Nikilianos


:clap2: :laugh: :clapping: Why Kassander founding and name the city of Thessaloniki:laugh: :laugh:

As Istor say
Solun or Thessaloniki??

[Morphesau]

Stop guys' can't take it anymore :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: it's too much paidia :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hope to add some good ones. ;)

[Ptolemy]

One strong contestant is this one here:

Cleopatra VII origin is from Macedonian dynasty of Ptolemaists!

:wacko:

That means, that the most famous representative of the Macedonian Ptolemaic dynasty was the distant great-granddaughter of the Macedonian Ptolemy Lagov - the famous Egyptian Queen Cleopatra.

:clapping:

First ruler of the Ptolemaic dynasty was Ptolemy Logov (also known as Ptolemy I Soter).

So now he became Logov? Whats next?

His wife Arsigua (316-271 before Christ) helped him and has big influence in his ruling.

At least he didnt call her Arsinovska. :lol:

He waged war against Antioh IV (King of the Seleucids) and he was prisoniered

:clapping:

great-granddaughter of the Alexandrian general and friend from the childhood Ptolemy Lagov

:lol:

The Jewish historian Josef Fluvial wrote about her in negatively contest if you take in consideration that she ruled with Judea.

Josef who???:huh:

Mark Anthony gave to Cleopatra the territories of Cyprus, Cilices, Fenikya, part of Syria, Judea and Arabia.

:clapping:

Another son was born, who they named Ptolemy Philadelphian.

;)

He mentions the name of one of her servants by the name of Selevk (an ancient Macedonian name, from which we can see that she right up to her last moment was surrounded by Macedonians).

R u sure its not Seleukov? :lol:

my.opera.com/truthaboutmacedonia/blog/show.dml/412688

[Ptolemy]

Our genious strikes back.

Sopol(is).
This ancient Macedonian name is mentioned by the Greek historian Arrian as the name of a Macedonian officer in the army of Alexander the Great.
It obviously contains the root "sopol" (a strong spring) from the so called "Old Slavic language".

:clapping:

Mauro Orbini, in his book "The Kingdom of the Slavs" (1601), wrote about the presence of the "Slavs" during the period of Alexander The Great, even as a part of his army.

How the hell did we all miss it?? it was so dead clear.

n an Albanian history book from the 19th century has been stated that the Macedonians are the indigenous people of the Balkans and that Alexander The Great was a "famous Macedonian-Slav tzar"

A bre Shiptari geniouses!! :clapping:

Nicomachus was most probably a Macedonian. He was a personal doctor of the Macedonian tzar Philip II (the father of Alexander The Great).

:wacko:

Refers to the members of the Macedonian dynasty that ruled Byzantine in the period IX to XI century AD. These tzars exercised a certain number of customs that were practised by the ancient Macedonian tzars, and they even promoted the Phalanx as a distinct component of the Byzantine army.

:rotflmao:

[pankration]

Now Alexander is a Tsar. Why not just call him the Great Chief or Manitou and give him to the Indians of North America too? You know, I heard that Alexander sent a ship east, it got swept up in a storm, landed in the Hawaiian islands and while the ship broke up, Alexander's men used pieces of the deck to get to the shore. The surf was so high they were forced to stand AND THAT'S HOW THE GREEKS INVENTED SURFING! King Kameamea of Hawaii was actually Alexander, who faked his own death and retired to a beach near the present location of Waikiki. I want to thank all skops who have inspired me to do this research!

[Amyntas]

Now Alexander is a Tsar. Why not just call him the Great Chief or Manitou and give him to the Indians of North America too? You know, I heard that Alexander sent a ship east, it got swept up in a storm, landed in the Hawaiian islands and while the ship broke up, Alexander's men used pieces of the deck to get to the shore. The surf was so high they were forced to stand AND THAT'S HOW THE GREEKS INVENTED SURFING! King Kameamea of Hawaii was actually Alexander, who faked his own death and retired to a beach near the present location of Waikiki. I want to thank all skops who have inspired me to do this research!

Lol stop it or do you want the skops to lay claims on hawaii too? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[achilles]

:clap2:

Hilarious...just hilarious...keep up the good work guys.:lol:

Now let me tell you the truth for a change. The Skopjans, and i mean every single one of them, are PRECISE clones of Alexander the Great himself. Their profound scientific community, during Tito's years, managed to extract DNA from somewhere (and this is undisputable) in order to craft complete, sharp, precise,exact clones of Alexander himself. This bunch of overwhelmingly civilized people living up North. This lot of people, whose Macedonian ancestors had spread the very essence of Pan-Slavism to Afghanistan and Indian, about a thousand years before the Slavic descent to the region took place.:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

Have a nice day all:)

[Slayer]

Macedonia together with Israel are the only biblical nations in this world :laugh: . Macedonians were the first christians and the first people St Paul preached to in Europe. A macedonian girl named Lidia was the first to baptize herself in Europe. Yes we accept the old testament but the new testament is what's important to us since that is what we shoudl live by, that with the new testament that there are new rules and guidelines for christians instead of looking to the old testament.

Orthodoxy can't be wrong:

"It traces its origins to the original undivided Christian community founded by Jesus for salvation, with its traditions first established by the Twelve Apostles at the time of Pentecost and maintained through unbroken Apostolic Succession."

komita maknews

maknews com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1914&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Slayer]

SOM

Emathius wrote:
So, whatever the history it is absurd and stupid to talk about the 50000 strong Greek minority of Mkd nowadays, just like it is stupid to talk about 1000000 Macedonians in Greece. Such claims I'm not even gonna dignify with a response.

Zdravo Emathius, my Vlach brother, I will have to disagree with you here regading the amount of Macedonians in Greece, personally I believe there is much more, but lets put the figures of specifics aside for a sec and look at one basic fact. In Greece there are villages in which Macedonian is spoken, and these are not a few either, particularly in the western and central areas, but where are the Greek vilagers in Macedonia to make up the numbers? Over 90% of "Greeks" in Macedonia are and have always been merchants or such, the rest declared by Greece as "Greeks" are Vlachs. Unlike Greece, Macedonia didn't try and turn our Vlachs into brainwashed citizens, this mutual respect shines mostly through our mutual hero and great son of Macedonia, Pitu Guli. In Krusevo, Vlach and Macedonian churches, people and everyday life stand side by side and live in harmony, although since the last time I was thee I noticed much discontent among the locals due to the newly arrived imports of Albanian stock that have to make up the "25%".

That may be true to a certain degree but one can hardly compare the recognized status of Albanians in Macedonia with that of Macedonians in Greece, to begin with, we are not even recognized as an existing people, Greece has never had a census based on what people feel or speak at home, so until those questions are answered none of us can be certain of how many people feel like Macedonians in Greece when one is virtually attacked if they declare as such, what is for certain is that probably about half of the northern greek population has Macedonian origins. The languages don't have to be thriving, but the fact that they are even spoken still is amazing considering the great efforts made by the Greek government to wipe oyut any traces of this native culture.
:clapping:

www maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1938

[christov]

0 In the beginning was the Macedonian,
And after being bored and scratching his balls for a week
The Macedonian created God.
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters…

[akritas]

Greek argyment as about the known DNA essay
So dear Aneta you or your essay dont have any sample of ancient Macedonian http://www.balkanium.com/forum/images/smilies/standard/whistling.gif
Thanks but you not convince anyone.Even and your self

and the answer of the Skopjan

Yes there is a DNK from Ancient Macedonians at least from 76 mummies what are found in today’s R.M. and they are from 5 century before Christ. And you can read the full report on the site of the
Universidad Complutense, Madrid, Spain or mail for info aarnaiz@eucmax.sim.ucm.es (aarnaiz@eucmax.sim.ucm.es)
This is just a beginning of the new archeological discoveries in Macedonia in the last one year there are more then 10 archeological societies that made interest in the new artifacts and ancient cites in Macedonia one of that societies is the English Royal Academy so we well see what well happen next.
:laugh: Where is the :laugh: Mummies???:laugh:

[Ptolemy]

I knew sooner or later we would heard from fyromians that mummies werent used for first time in Egypt. Whats next?

[Ptolemy]

Someone posted elsewhere a post coming from that skop forum which is the heaven of "pearls" and...idiots.

This is also reminding me about the legend of king Toljo as written in the book of Donski (his suggestion that Toljo can be shortage of Ptolomeus) and the macedonian folkstory about the Pharaoh and the Juws.

Great find Yannis, its maybe time for some place where all these findings will be archived.

mak news com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2047&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

[pankration]

And then God created man...in the image of Macedonians.
Genesis 3:1 from the Bible of Slavic Macedonians

[Amyntas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Individual_racism

Just look on the picture on the right and who is the genius who is shown here as a example :lol: :lol:

[akritas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Individual_racism

Just look on the picture on the right and who is the genius who is shown here as a example :lol: :lol:

.....a question to me .......must lauph or to cry ?????
because this kind of persons poison the Human relationships:mad:

[Amyntas]

I think both, laughing and crying, would be appropriate in this case.....on the one hand it is funny how plain stupid and what a racist their best known "historian" is and on the other hand it is sad to know that there are alot of people believing him....

[pankration]

What's really sad is that many people will believe this misinformation? Stupidity is the curse of mankind.

[Greece2006]

Classic Skopjen liner:

WHO WERE THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS?

The Macedonians originally came from India. Their language derived from Sanscrit. They were called Macedonians under Alexander the Great. Before this period, the Macedonians were cally Myceneans, and before that - Trojans (of whom spoke the Trojan ie. Macedonian poet Homer in his "Iliad", and before that - Titans.

Classic.

[edessa]

this is some funny stuff...but it is extremely disturbing that these people, who have no basic concept of general history and anthropology (if i don't know something i wont pretend i do to make me look smart i.e. scots are descendants of macedonians and slavs were round 1000 yrs before they even appeared) , are trying to convince the world they are descendants of the greatest conqueror of all time and as such are entitled his land...any credibility skops had with me went out the window when one of them (wont mention any names) tried to convince me that slavic was the 3rd language written on the rosetta stone. when i asked him to read it, he changed the subject
its hilarious when they argue with each other though and the responses are even more dumber than the previous one

[pankration]

Didn't you know? Jesus was a skop as was Buddha and Mohammed. The skop propaganda makes Goebbels (Hitler's propagandist) look unpatriotic. As a teacher I'm disheartened by the stupidity coming out of that country. What's happening to their school system to turn out such morons?

[Amyntas]

Actually i had one skop telling me that jesus was "macedonian" :lol:

[edessa]

it seems to me, that the whole basis of skop culture and identity, is to spurn hatred for everything greek, and to spend their whole lives trying to prove we're wrong and they're right and this is manifested through pictures of alexander spearing tsoliades in churches of all places...pretty pathetic really

[Ptolemy]

I just came across this quote from a skopjan.

First of all we all know where macedonians came from. They arived about 2000B.C as aryan tribes. Then slavs came into the macedonian region during 300.A.D. These two cultures mixed. The ancient Macedonians stayed in macedonia unlike the ancient greeks in greece wich were slaughtered by the dorians. And the Thracians in Bulgaria were also killed off. This is one diffrence between slav states. The ancient macedonians mixed with the new macedonians unlike the other cultures

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[akritas]

..........kai sthn korfi kanella

:boohoo: :band: :ices_blah :ices_blah

[akritas]

The word "Hellens" is comming from the Ancient Macedonian's(aboriginal) language which was "elani" which means "comers" or "people that are comming from somewhere"...



by Thorn


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[christov]

Yeah, from the pub round the corner… :lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

by Thorn


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the funniest thing about that is that "ancient aboriginal macedonian word" elani is a Greek word borrowed by Bulgarians (and therefore Skopjians). 'Ela', meaning come.

I love these aboriginal macedonian words:laugh:

[christov]

the funniest thing about that is that "ancient aboriginal macedonian word" elani is a Greek word borrowed by Bulgarians (and therefore Skopjians). 'Ela', meaning come.

I love these aboriginal macedonian words:laugh:Isn't it the same in Greek?

[akritas]

Also, his name wasnt Alexandros.It was Aleksandar with a Greek Os on the end of it.
by Magedon

But Slovak, why would you think that all Europe civilisation has it roots only in Macedonia?? As far as I know it was south Balkan that give the first civilised life in Europe Ex. Macedonia, Greece and some parts of Serbia and Thrace. Ethruscans are possibly from Frigians which are from Brigians who are from Macedonia

by Antioch


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
by maknews Brainwash Historical University

[Amarantos]

Al (Bog,God)Eks (Axios,Balance) an/na (Nas) Dar - Dar -gift - Or simply - Bozidar. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Also, this "Man protector" Greek meaning is very suspicious to me.:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: He surely wasn't a "man protector", but a gift from god is something different - something aleksandar clearly was.

by Magedon

:lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

Isn't it the same in Greek?

what? elani is not greek but 'ela' is old greek. probably from the ancient eleusis (to go through) though im not entirely sure; Id like to see what an etymologist says and not accept this aborginal theory:lol:

[Amyntas]

Unfortunalty in German but I ll give you a translation:
Lies ein bischen Ernärung für dein Gehirn:

Indogermanisches Volk=Arisches Volk=Slawisches Volk! Griechen stammen aus Phönizien und wanderten später in dem Gebiet Balkans ein! Die Makedonier waren schon vorher da! Slawische Makedonier?Es gibt keine Slawische Makedonier!Es gibt aber Makedonier die Griechisch und Slawisch reden müssten! Die Makedonische Sprache aber ist eine Urslawische sprache, von der die Slawische ihren Ursprung nahm!Das Makedonische Volk war also schon vorher da und bot den Griechen Platz bei sich. Makedonier sind Indogermanen, aber die Griechen nicht!

[...]

Man wagt ein historisches Komentar abzugeben ohne vorher sich über den Folgen Gedanken gemacht zu haben. Solche unseriöse Bewertungen der Geschichte schaden den Mazedoniern und in der ersten Linie der Geschichte. Wenn die Mazedoniern keine Mazedoniern sind, was sind denn dann?? Der Alexander der Große (Alexander der Mazedonier) hat gegen den Hellenen gekämpft. Seine Mutter war Hellenin und der Vater Mazedonier. Also, die Helenen sind heutige Griechen und wer sind die Mazedoniern???
[...]

Translation (i ll translate "Mazedonier" as Macedonian because if this guy whould write in english he would use this term):

Indogermanic people = aryan people = slavic people! Greeks descent from phonicians and later they migrated to the balkan region! Macedonians were they before! Slavic Macedonians? Such a thing doesnt exist! There were only Macedonians who had to speak greek or slavic! The Macedonian Language is the oldest slavic language and all slavic languages descent from it! The Macedonian people were there before the Greeks and gave them shelter! The Macedonians are indogermanic but the Greeks are not!

You dare to make a comment on history without thinking of the consequences. Such a dubios handling of history is damaging the Macedonians and history itself. If Macedonians arent Macedonians what are they then? Alexander the Great (Alexander the Macedonian) fought the Hellenes. His mother was hellenic his father a macedonian. The hellenes are the modern greeks but who are the macedonians now?

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:lol: :lol: this one said much more but its too much to translate all of it :lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

Yeah I hear Hitler was a big fan of Slavs haha

[Ptolemy]

I just read it in youtube from a skop talking about the movie Alexander and spotting inaccuracies.

use r so boring with this politic shit,but that film is fake,he said glory of greece,in those ages there wasnt a name called greece it was only athenian

:lol: :lol:

[pankration]

There was no nation of Greece but there definitely were Greeks. They identified themselves from an ethnic point of view a good 1000years or more BEFORE Alexander. You don't need borders or a political entity to be part of a particular culture.

[christov]

You don't need borders or a political entity to be part of a particular culture.Totally agree with Pankration.

[akritas]

Do not confuse yourself with a Hellene, you are a Greek

by Kassander(a):)

www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=40


And I am wandering all this time , what am i ?:p :laugh:

[paniskos]

in the macedonia highlands under the hellenic sky

[paniskos]

in the macedonia highlands under the hellenic sky

[Ptolemy]

This one comes from the mightly historian Edwin E. Jacques in his book "The Albanians: An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present" , page 91

On another occasion when Alexander sent a Greek general, Philotas, to be tried before a military court he asked Philotas to speak in Macedonian so that his judges who were Macedonians might understand him. But the general refused, saying" i shall speak in Greek, because i want to be understood by my own countrymen"

In another quote the mightiest historian, ever this planet has seen writes:

Apparently most of the leadership and most of the soldiery involved in this Asian expedition were Pelasgian of Albanian; certainly they were Macedonians, not Greeks

In another spasmodic seizure he adds..

Stepping asshore in Asia he erected altars to the lord of the pelasgians, to the goddess Athena and to Heracles the pelasgian hero whom he claimed as ancestor of his father's side

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Voulgaroktonos]

i rekon the amount of albanians on balkan forums mentioning the names 'epirus' and 'pelasgian' is gonna increase very soon :frusty:

[Xiotis]

A real gem from maknuts.com. These people live in a looney tune fantasy land:

By Magadon of Maknuts.com:

Paul,Helios is really Ilios,a Macedonian word or simply the sun god Il.From this name we have Ilija,Ilco,Ilinden,soncev den,Ilinka etc.You know also,that the real name of Troy was Ilion.The city of the sun.Could it be that it was a Macedonian,maybe Frigian city?

Is there a group of people more brainwashed than these whackos from their diaspora???

[akritas]

Alexander the Great was a dickhead grkoman tyrant from 2400 years ago. If you really wanted to 'market' the place why not name the airport after Mother Teresa? She's probably the most famous Macedonian from Skopje in recent times.


by Lubi Uzunovski

no further comments!!!

[Istor]

"So, Slavic and Greek have the same Genitives."

here h**p://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2484
see Slovak's the scholar post !!!

hahahahahahahahahaha !!

[Orphic_Hymn]

From Istor's great find :



Observe what I have bolded. The suffixes on the family names of players from Thrace, Macedonia, Thessaly and even Halicarnassos and Tarantinos. Compare it with suffixes of modern Macedonian and Bulgarian family names. That's correct: -ου! And modern is -ов, -ев. A typical Slavic feature, unless I don't know Greek enough! Aren't Greek suffixes -s, -es, -is...?!


The people are totally ignorant.. they think that the reference to the father as in "Amadokou" which actually indicates "son of Amadokos".. is a last name..:lol: :lol: :lol:

This is priceless..

[Euklid]

Re paidia, poia einai ayti i hlm ekei mesa?

Ton exei kapsei pliros ton egkefalo?

My guess is:

Kamia gerontokori pou tin paratise o ellinas antras tis kai ta xei valei me tous ellines, kommounistria opos paradexetai kai daskala philologias tha tin ekana, apo ayets me ta matompoukala pou den vlepoun peran tin mytis tous.

Me sygxyse vradiatiko.

[preston]

Re paidia, poia einai ayti i hlm ekei mesa?

Ton exei kapsei pliros ton egkefalo?

My guess is:

Kamia gerontokori pou tin paratise o ellinas antras tis kai ta xei valei me tous ellines, kommounistria opos paradexetai kai daskala philologias tha tin ekana, apo ayets me ta matompoukala pou den vlepoun peran tin mytis tous.

Me sygxyse vradiatiko.

lol...hirotera...asta na pane...ama pis to onoma tis ston akrita tha vgali spirakia. Iparhoun shetika forum me to onoma tis. malon tin pidixe skopianos ke tis arese opote alaxe stratopedo.

[akritas]

Re paidia, poia einai ayti i hlm ekei mesa?

Ton exei kapsei pliros ton egkefalo?

My guess is:

Kamia gerontokori pou tin paratise o ellinas antras tis kai ta xei valei me tous ellines, kommounistria opos paradexetai kai daskala philologias tha tin ekana, apo ayets me ta matompoukala pou den vlepoun peran tin mytis tous.

Me sygxyse vradiatiko.
read the below thread

Human Like Me (Katerina) (http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/free-speech-macedonia-forum/364-human-like-me-katerina.html)

as Preston said is one from my beloved net-personsthat want to name as "Greeks".:angry:

[yannis-3]

the first Skopian asks
by family Samuel was Macedonian as his fortress is in Ohrid but I have read that he was in constant conflict with the Byzantine Emperor Basil II who was part of the Macedonian dynasty (rulers of Byzantine empire) and I cannot understand why two Macedonians would fight each other-there has to be more to the story. It is also shown in many sites that Samuel was "Bulgarian" and his empire was Bulgarian but this has many critics and has been disproven. However, why would Basil II be called the "Bulgar Slayer"?. I am very informed about what the Ancients did and what the current times are like and even the fact that we fougth for the freedom of the people that have now betrayed us (Greece,many others). But the truth about Samuel and Basil II and the Macedonian dynasty of the Byzantien empire has eluded me on many occasions and I desire for further and complete knowledge. And I think that a map outlining the borders of euope in 976 AD would be helpful. To me this issue and time period in Macedonian history seems to be not celebrated as much and known little about , it seems unusual considering Macedonians have made great contributions in that era as well. Any information and any thoughts woudl be helpful.

The second Skopian reply


Both these figures were Macedonians:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: , Byzantine/Roman and Bulgar were not ethnic titles in the 10th century, they were imperial titles linked with two Balkan Empires. 19th century writers from Macedonia consider these people as their ancestors.

[Euklid]

"|But why a Macedonian was a fighting another Macedonian.

The first after killing the second's troops is called Bulgar-Slayer?

But how is that possible?" :unsure:

These Skops have completely braindamaged themselves!:laugh: :clapping: :lol:

Btw, exei kaneis kana account active pou na moy to dosei na kano login, prospatho na gino member alla den mporo.......kana suggestion?

[Istor]

ËïéðüÃ* ¸÷ù Ìéá Ã�ñüôáóç.
Ã�á Äçìéïõñãçèåß Åäþ ¸Ã*á ÈÃ�ìá ¼ðïõ Èá Äçìïóéåýïõìå Ã�ðïêëåéóôéêÜ Ã�ðáÃ*ôÞóåéò Óôï ÌáêÃ*ïýôò.

¸ôóé, Èá Ã�ðïêáôáóôÞóïõìå ¸Ã*á Åßäïò Äéáëüãïõ Ìå Ôïõò ×áìÃ�Ã*ïõò Åêåß Êáé Ã�õôïß Èá Ìáò ÂñßóêïõÃ* Åõêïëüôåñá.

Ã�Ã* ÃßÃ*åé Ã�õôü Õðüó÷ïìáé Ã�á ÊáôáñãÞóù Ôï Äéêü Ìïõ Öüñïõì!

[Euklid]

Istor symfono me tin protasi soy...poio einai to forum sou?

[Amyntas]

his message is inspiration to the notion of belief. No matter how absurd, no matter how ridiculous, no matter how historically inconceivable, if you believe in something with your heart and soul you can create a reality. In the words of George Costanza to Jerry Seinfeld, "It's not a lie Jerry, if you believe it".

Zmija from Mak-junkheads-dot-com about the FYROMs plans to rename their airport into "Alexander the Great"

[Istor]

my forum is Makedoncite sekogash bile Grci (http://www.network54.com/Forum/448385/)

Zmija makes good work there. But soon he will ge banned.

[Ptolemy]

Post from another 'aleksandar makedonski' in an ancient history group.

i see you not know much about history. Aleksandar was not greek. He hated greeks. why do you thing he burned thebe? if he was grek his name will be aleksandar of greece not aleksandar makedonski. Ancient macedonians were proto-slavs and speak a protoslavic language related to modern macedonian language. /He was no gay either. He had women and children. Aleksandar was the best military man of all times.

:lol: :lol:

[Ptolemy]

..and the WINNER IS...MacedonianPride for his great post about the...'greekness' of Eugene Borza!!!



.. THATS CALLED PROOF YOU IDIOT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORD "PROOOOF" sound it out. Best historian? let me guess he is Greek right? No wonder they say hes GREEK.
Slavs are people from everywhere in Europe. Before they came, there was people living there already. They were the ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[Ptolemy]

I predict this idiot 'MacedonianPride' will be a permanent cult figure of this thread.

The Greek Gods that come from Egypt... don't make me sick Alexander said he worshiped AMAN!!! (The Egyptian Zeus... and the original) When he went to Egypt he asked if he was a God of Zeus-Aman.... to say Macedonia was Greek because is this is stupidity because Thracians worshiped the same Gods as Macedonians... you do know Thracians and Macedonians have the same origin right?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Euklid]

What did our ancient ancestors used to say Ptolemy?

H imimathia einai xeiroteri apo thn amathia...

Half knowledge is worse than non-knowledge.


:lol:

[Istor]

hahahahahahahahahahaha !!

AMAN !!

Thanks Ptolemy !!

[pankration]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Makedonski = lobotomy

[akritas]

oo
Vasileus = King

If put it apart:

va-sile-us

Without the Greek suffix:

va-sile

This is a Genitive construction in most Slavic languages and means in power.
va, vo, v = in
sile G.sg. - sila N.sg. = power, might, strenght

by Slovak
:clap2: :clapping: :clap2: :laugh:

In the same way the Hellenised term 'Olympos' = Olym Po [ holym Poh] = [ghOlym Bogh] = 'Great God' in Macedonian.

by Lubi Uzunovski (aka maknews)
:) :)

[Euklid]

You know what Akrita, in a way am glad that all these Fyromians spent so much time for the Greek language and the Greeks in general.

Sooner or later, they will speak perfect Greek, and once they visit us, they wont go back to their shitholes, they will propably stay there and declare themselves Greek.

[akritas]

You know what Akrita, in a way am glad that all these Fyromians spent so much time for the Greek language and the Greeks in general.

Sooner or later, they will speak perfect Greek, and once they visit us, they wont go back to their shitholes, they will propably stay there and declare themselves Greek.
I hope theirs teachers would not be scholars like Liaskos(paidia tis nyxtas if you rememeber him:lol: ) and Tziropoulou cases!!!!!:)

[Ptolemy]

I think we should also include gems from Albanians. Just read a post with a strong candidancy for our "2007 MVP" (Most Valuable Poster)

2)what does it mean in greek the name of godnees Afroditi having present her atributes (in albanian its 100% clear)?
......
4)about the Etrusk people(in the antic north italy before romans) we know that the one who read and translate sth by them was empror Klaud II the Illyrian, and the same things are so easyly understood with the Albanian language today(many albanologs reading in albanian their leters saw that those describes the "pictures" or the tombs and so on...in a perfect way) have albanian been spoken in anticity?Having present their traditional culture , how could soldiers of 11th century, grown up everywhere in battles create a such traditional culture, strong enough to survive to the times?

5)Why antic greek has too many diferences from the new one (at schools , i have heard they are studied apart)

-Here in Italy many profesors of anticity are sure that latin comes from "albanian" the antic one better to say.Its strange but they are sure they have the proves.

:clapping: :clapping:

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/epirus-forum/343-souliotes.html#post12967

[akritas]

this Slovak is a unbelievable brainwash!!!
Below a quote reagrding the Vasileus derivation


Also in modern Greek β is pronounced as V while in Classical Greek as B.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Orphic_Hymn]

Following Ptolemy's proposal, I just have to post these gems....

Enjoy..


One of the oldest Illyrian tribes though was called Taulant (thau land) = dry land and in Asia there was another Illyrian settlement which now is called Thailand.


From recent archaeological data it comes out that India traded gold for iron and other heavy metals with Phoenicians who travelled to African shores before 10,000 years ago, almost 9,500 years before Alexander invaded India.

It is also used by Albanians that founded Troy in Asia Minor


..........Lap in Finnish is derogative and insulting word. Probably the new comers from Asia despised the primitive old Albanian race.


No wonder that Alexander the Great used the same Viking helmet with the horns of a bull.

This entire article is priceless..:lol: :lol: :lol:

Behind the Name: Message: "Re: Name of places and greek gods from the albanian language." (http://www.behindthename.com/bb_gen/arcview.php?id=31864)

[Ptolemy]

From the same site.

My guess is that this group of ancient Albanians created the half white race of Arabs

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Xiotis]

if once a day the civil war greaks out, the grkomani will fight on the greekside, so we have to kill them equally as the athens!

i will kill macedonians if they aren´t on my/ our ideology, one day we have to clean this problem

By DIMko-piperkata, a brainwashed ultranationalist crackpot from maknuts:clap2:

Do these guys ever wonder why there are so many 'traitors' to their ethnicity that whole categories such as grkomani have been created for them? Could it be that these people's (grkoman) ancestors never thought of themselves as 'ethnic Macedonians' to begin with because the 'Macedonian' ethnicity is a relatively new identity? Nah that would be too easy! Congrats maknuts crackpots! If we believe your version of history then yours ethnicity is the only ethnicity in the Balkans to have so many traitors that whole categories have been created (grkoman, bulgroman, srboman) to describe them! Nice history and culture! These are the same guys that assert that the hellenic identity is a fraud imposed on us by outsiders...

[Istor]

Vasileus = King

Makedoncite sekogash bile Grci (http://www.network54.com/Forum/448385/message/1168633025)

[pankration]

The University Of Albania History Department
:withstupi :withstupi :withstupi :withstupi :withstupi

[Reaper]

..........Lap in Finnish is derogative and insulting word. Probably the new comers from Asia despised the primitive old Albanian race.

Great find, made me laugh out loud orphic!

For me i found this interesting, you can see how stupidity slowly conquers this already stupid thread:

:: View topic - Veles: Ancient Slavic God (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2548)

[Voulgaroktonos]

Sorry everyone but you all LOSE! I posted the winner at the start of this thread.



They were also women in the macedonian ancient army and also they were part of macedonian olympic games
-Antioch on maknews forum

:: (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1361)



I think antioch should receive a prize from Macedoniaontheweb and I should receive something for scouting his brilliance:clap2:

[akritas]

There have been studies done on Homer's Iliad and words have been found there that match so-called 'Slavic' words but not Greek words.
by Lubi Uzunovski(aka maknews)


Ἔνθ᾽ αὖ Τυδεΐδῃ Διομήδεϊ Παλλὰς Ἀθήνη
δῶκε μένος καὶ θάρσος, ἵν᾽ ἔκδηλος μετὰ πᾶσιν
Ἀργείοισι γένοιτο ἰδὲ κλέος ἐσθλὸν ἄροιτο·
δαῖέ οἱ ἐκ κόρυθός τε καὶ ἀσπίδος ἀκάματον πῦρ
ἀστέρ᾽ ὀπωρινῷ ἐναλίγκιον, ὅς τε μάλιστα
λαμπρὸν παμφαίνῃσι λελουμένος ὠκεανοῖο·
τοῖόν οἱ πῦρ δαῖεν ἀπὸ κρατός τε καὶ ὤμων,
ὦρσε δέ μιν κατὰ μέσσον ὅθι πλεῖστοι κλονέοντο.
Ἦν δέ τις ἐν Τρώεσσι Δάρης ἀφνειὸς ἀμύμων



Lubi some of your Slavic words
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
ouraaaaa.............Maknews Brainwash Academy:clap2:

[Hellas7]

On one more note, since your obsessed with the original territory of the ancient macedonians, that is around the town of Edessa in Greek-macedonia, just 25kms south of the border with R.Macedonia. Edessa, which is the name the greeks gave this town 80years ago, was formally known as Voden by the local majority "slav speaking" macedonians who lived (and still live) there. Suprisingly, the greek name of the town- Edessa, has nothing to do with its ancient name, which was Vedy. Vedy is an ancient macedonian word meaning "an abundence of water". The modern macedonian name given to it 'Voden' is also derived from the meanings water/wet/waterfalls/. The modern greek name for this town 'Edessa' also means an abundence of water.

Now we have the "slav" macedonian name VODEN and the new name EDESSA, both with the same meaning as the ancient name of the town VEDY. Which one do you think is more related to the ancient name? The modern Macedonian one, clearly!!


Can you believe this.

[Istor]

Anti na koitaei th gynaika tou ka8etai kai grafei malakies!
Yahoo! Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMDigest/message/6517)

[Ptolemy]

Anti na koitaei th gynaika tou ka8etai kai grafei malakies!
Yahoo! Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMDigest/message/6517)

Mporei na kathetai na grafei malakies akribos gia auto...epeidi den antexei na koitaei tin gunaika tou!! :lol:

[akritas]

The turks are calling the grekos "Yunanistanians" bcs they'r new/young state.This i think is from June wich is young cow(i think).
by megedon

mmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!! tagari

Brainwash Analysis of the words Hellene and Greece (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2578)
by Homer BrainwashDonski


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Morphesau]

Quote:
Do not confuse yourself with a Hellene, you are a Greek
by Kassander(a) :)

www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=40


And I am wandering all this time , what am i ?:p :laugh:

HAHAHA!!! That got me all in tears and stitches :laugh:

[akritas]

Alexander the Great was a dickhead grkoman tyrant from 2400 years ago. If you really wanted to 'market' the place why not name the airport after Mother Teresa? She's probably the most famous Macedonian from Skopje in recent times.




for me this the better quote that I ever heared lately from the Skopjans.:laugh: :laugh:

[edessa]

by megedon

mmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!! tagari


by Homer BrainwashDonski


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

i actually sat down and read that site, and was very tempted to sign up, but decided against it - merely for the fact that if these people are really that dumb to write stuff like that then i got no chance proving our cause to them...its amazing to see people these days believing the slavic language pre dates the hellenic one, and not only that, but refuting all arguments and general common sense that proves otherwise

[achilles]

FYROMANIACS process so much heroin up there that they cannot escape side effects...they do escape reality amazingly though:clap2:

[Amyntas]

329 BC: Alexander the Great records two great 'flying shields' - Central Asia, - 329 BC - UFO Evidence (http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case491.htm)

donski at his best :D

[Foti66]

I welcomed the arrival of my cousins from Northern Greece yesterday.
Naturally, it did not take long to discuss matters of Macedonian interest. The issue of artefacts was raised and I submit the following information for the benfit of posterity:

One cousin of mine stated that he personally had relatives working on 2 separate archaeological digs in the region of Northern greece. On these occasions the following events transpired:

1/ Excavation reveals coins with picture of Alexander the great and slavonic inscriptions. ACTION: Immediately sieze all items and backfill the entire excavation.

2/ Excavation reveals coins with Tzar Samoil picture with slavonic inscriptions. ACTION: Immediately sieze all items, pay workers twice the amount they were employed for and told them to go home.

Risto the Great


maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2594

:frusty:

[The Blood of Dorus]

Following on in the same thread we find this classic:

:: View topic - Coins in Northern Greece (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2594)

Antioch:
Pity we don't have fotos of those coins, I would like to see the inscriptions...Was greek letters used for the Alexanders coin?

Risto the Great:
No ... slavonic letters were used.

Now what did Cyril and Methodius invent in the late 9th century AD?

These morons show no end to their pathetic lunacy.

[Xiotis]

Following on in the same thread we find this classic:

:: View topic - Coins in Northern Greece (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2594)

Antioch:


Risto the Great:


Now what did Cyril and Methodius invent in the late 9th century AD?

These morons show no end to their pathetic lunacy.


Guys, these people are such lunatics I almost, and I mean almost, feel sorry for them. Their crackpot nationalist far fetched mythical theories know no bounds. All these moronic conspiracy theories! Whats next? What is coming next from these maknuts?:unsure:

[Spartan]

"1/ Excavation reveals coins with picture of Alexander the great and slavonic inscriptions. ACTION: Immediately sieze all items and backfill the entire excavation.

----------------------------------------------------

B.S!!

----------------------------------------------------------
2/ Excavation reveals coins with Tzar Samoil picture with slavonic inscriptions. ACTION: Immediately sieze all items, pay workers twice the amount they were employed for and told them to go home.
--------------------------------------------------------

Why in the world would the Greeks hide Slavonic inscritptions of a Slav leader?? That is the typical Risto B.S that has absolutely no logic!

[Foti66]

posted by molika on maknuts

I don’t get it? why aren’t they complaining about other countries using the so called greek names and symbols?
Like Egypt for example, what about the island named after Alexander the great… why aren’t you stupid greeks doing something about the Egyptians, i’m sure other countries use this name for street names and roads and what have you….

One word comes to mind. MORON!!!!!!!!

[Amyntas]

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[Istor]

"maharia = maha = mava = "to wave, to swing,to strike, the knife"."

hahahahahahahaha !!
Apparently that mk is mkont!! If yes then: "malakas > malako > makont > mkont" !! Perfect, isn't it ??

The word machaira is homeric:
Homer, Iliad (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hom.+Il.+11.822)

[Xiotis]

A little light went off in a contributor's head over at maknuts! It occured to him that if the slavic migration never happened (which seems to be the consensus over at maknuts) how and why are they arguing the slavs over-ran Greece ...he posted the question in a maknuts forum.... so in jumps in the biggest crackpot of them all to explain away this minor detail that doesnt coincide with the theory:

Soldier of Macedon:

Because Macedonians, Thracians and Illyrians were already Slavs, the invasions happened mainly from Slavs north of the Danube, who pushed south through already Slav lands and beyond. Therefore Serdica(thracian) was merely altered in accordance with the dialect of the Scytho-Slavs which was Sreditsa, nevertheless having the same meaning, namely, the centre or central as Serdica/Sreditsa where Sofia today lies is in the exact centre of the Balkans between Danube and Aegean, Adriatic and Black Seas. Whereas the palcenames which these Scythians were not familiar with were given Slavic ones, hence, Morea. Makedonia remained Makedonia.

Invasions of Slavic tribes definetly happened, even settlements of Slavs from beyond the Danube, but the Balkan type Slavs were already there, that is why nowhere in the old texts does it mention a "migration".


So according to Soldier of Malakies the Slav migration did take place but only in Greece! What a perfect way to make the theory work! These guys already have a conclusion and they are building their history around it. I ask when will the lunacy end! Which credible academic supports these crackpot theories?? Do they come up with this crap in their community center basements while wearing Alexander the Great costumes??

[Voulgaroktonos]

you know the way they think too well Xioti:unsure:

[Amarantos]

In 1948-1950 together with the 200 000 Makedontsi that Metaksas expelled from greece

by Komitadji,here on macedoniaontheweb

Ioannis Metaxas, April 12, 1871–January 29, 1941

[Komitadji]

by Komitadji,here on macedoniaontheweb

Ioannis Metaxas, April 12, 1871–January 29, 1941

Amarantos, filos mou.... Everybody makes mistakles....

[Istor]

Even Gligorof: we are just SlavoSkopians !!

:)

[The Blood of Dorus]

I know this guys English is not the best, but this is a gem from Antioch of Maknews:

Macedonians (many of them) were brainwashed by the yugoslavian communistic party to forget about their heritage and to be good slavic cityzens (from 6th Century).

:: View topic - Tsar Samuel and Macedonia in the 10th century (http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2512&start=60)

Gee, I didn't know the Yugo commie party existed in the 6th century AD.

[Reaper]

I have been accused (by Greeks of course) of "fabricating information", "not including sources", "telling lies", "speculating", "providing no conclusions", "not making footnotes", etc., etc., so for this article I will do my best not to fabricate information,

the one and only Risto Stefov.

Greek Lie: "4,000 years of Greek Civilization" by Risto Stefov (http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/stefov/stefov107.html)

[Voulgaroktonos]

the one and only Risto Stefov.

Greek Lie: "4,000 years of Greek Civilization" by Risto Stefov (http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/stefov/stefov107.html)

LOL great one

[Amarantos]

THE TRUTH: (My conclusion)

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Are the words in parenthesis some kind of subconscious self-censorship attemp for not ridiculing himself,or not?:lol:

The truth is Greece is a modern state created for the first time in 1929.

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by the man who possesses the truth, the whole, exact ,accurate truth and everything else but the truth, Risto Stefov ,from the link provided earlier.

[Euklid]

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Are the words in parenthesis some kind of subconscious self-censorship attemp for not ridiculing himself,or not?:lol:


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aypnies oloi simera?

Amarante, Ellada de meneis?

[Amarantos]

:clapping: :laugh: :clap2: :lol:

aypnies oloi simera?

Amarante, Ellada de meneis?

itan kalos , itan kalos :laugh: Ton ksimerwsame ton makariti xthes :p