Risto inventing a Professor

[Amyntas]

Read this burda a skop posted in a german forum....
http://maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27270#27270

well i googled for mr. "james farrington" because i wanted to know who this "professor" is. Well....probably that Artist who is dead for over a hundred of years? or that politician who is dead for like 150 years? No one answered and that new started thread dissappeared :D:lol:

Funny people those skops :D

[akritas]

Stefou invented a person that is a mix of Illinden and Stefov.:) His english are better than mine :wacko: and of course he didn't mention where is teaching but even not his e-mail(at least a fake e-mail). Unfortunely there are people that promote his propaganda with words such as "good work Risto" , "thank you Risto" with the known brainwash results. BTW I call recently some skopjans brainwash and now Risto also use and this term. Like the known model Skopjan Brainwash Machine 2006Stefov:laugh:

[Xiotis]

Stefou invented a person that is a mix of Illinden and Stefov.:) His english are better than mine :wacko: and of course he didn't mention where is teaching but even not his e-mail(at least a fake e-mail). Unfortunely there are people that promote his propaganda with words such as "good work Risto" , "thank you Risto" with the known brainwash results. BTW I call recently some skopjans brainwash and now Risto also use and this term. Like the known model Skopjan Brainwash Machine 2006Stefov:laugh:

I read it too, Akritas. This is truly pathetic. You can tell the person is a fraud by the fact that the points raised fit the nationalist theories espoused by Stefov et al. Stefov should be ashamed of himself. There is a handful of whackos fueling the nationalist agenda amongst their diaspora. This is just an other example of how far they will go to promote their far fetched theories. It reminds me of their crooked attempt at scholarship by authoring a book under a pseudonym 'J.S. Gandeto' and selling it on amazon.com. The other person behind a lot of this crap is Mangovski. Mangovski, member of the Macedonian World Congress, feeds information to the dupes on alt.news.macedonia for them to post but he does not get involved in the debates himself now because he has been made to look like an ass in the past.

[Otto]

Interestingly, no university nothing....

Interestinly, no facts. Actually they believe they have "facts" although they proved nothing...

then they go off clapping like they have uncovered something the Greeks do every few months "Largest Macedonian Tomb Ever Uncovered in Greece"...

I guess its like Zorba the Greek,
"Zorba is dancing. (After his son dies) He must be going crazy."
Zorba:"After my son died, I knew if I didn't dance, I knew I would go crazy."

they must be going crazy with nothing really to work with...

[nsminc]

What freaks.These people are beneath contempt.

[Amyntas]

Poor little skops are getting trashed on that german forum really bad because of posting this Stefov-shit :lol: even though i must admin that they now posted something about a book called "Der Mazedonische Knoten" (the mazedonian knot) written by a german who says that his information is from the german foreign ministry archives....i ll try to find something out about him because it seems like this book is becoming the new skop-bible and it is pretty anti-greek, anti-bulgarian and extremly pro-skop. Unlikely for someone neutral.

[Slayer]

I read the link and what struck me first was the language used by the so called professor.

"Dear brainwashed Greeks"
"have I seen someone as brainwashed as you"
"much more hostile and simply insane than the Greeks that come from Greece"
"And it doesn't help that your little heads are filled with false information about Macedonia (perhaps that is how you were raised)."
"Today's Greek DNA is an exact match to the one of the Iraqis and Iranians"
I thought we were Turks, no Albanians, no slavs, no ETHIOPIANS
Oh stupid me, the Albanins, Slavs, Turks and Ethiopians conquered Iraq and Iran :lol:

This does not sound like the language of a Professor yet alone a first year History student.

Secondly what struck me more was that no-one especialy Risto cared to answer the question where this guy teaches, what University he is from and why would he not properly sign his name with his appropriate qualifications
eg:BA,Dip Ed,Hist..or something

[Amyntas]

Poor little skops are getting trashed on that german forum really bad because of posting this Stefov-shit :lol: [/B]even though i must admin that they now posted something about a book called "Der Mazedonische Knoten" (the mazedonian knot) written by a german who says that his information is from the german foreign ministry archives....i ll try to find something out about him because it seems like this book is becoming the new skop-bible and it is pretty anti-greek, anti-bulgarian and extremly pro-skop. Unlikely for someone neutral.[/b]

ok i did some research....this guy is completly clueless or at least he doesnt know what he is talking about.....he was born in Poland (former german part of it) and used to be the first german embassador in FYROM. But the best part of it is ότι έχει σπουδάσει και βιομηχανική :lol:.......άραγες πρέπει να ξέρει τα πάντα για Ιστορία :lol:.......
Μάλλον θα είδε ότι οι σκοπιανοί αγοράζουν τα πάντα αν γράφει μέσα αυτά που θέλουν αυτή και σκέφτικε "ας βγάλω και εγώ κάνα φράνγκο μια που είναι τόσο μαλάκες:D

[akritas]

ok i did some research....this guy is completly clueless or at least he doesnt know what he is talking about.....he was born in Poland (former german part of it) and used to be the first german embassador in FYROM. But the best part of it is ότι έχει σπουδάσει και βιομηχανική :lol:.......άραγες πρέπει να ξέρει τα πάντα για Ιστορία :lol:.......
Μάλλον θα είδε ότι οι σκοπιανοί αγοράζουν τα πάντα αν γράφει μέσα αυτά που θέλουν αυτή και σκέφτικε "ας βγάλω και εγώ κάνα φράνγκο μια που είναι τόσο μαλάκες:D
Μπορείς να μας δώσεις κάποιο link?

[Amyntas]

Μόνο στα γερμανικά

[admin]

"Dear brainwashed Greeks"
"have I seen someone as brainwashed as you"
"much more hostile and simply insane than the Greeks that come from Greece"
"And it doesn't help that your little heads are filled with false information about Macedonia (perhaps that is how you were raised)."
"Today's Greek DNA is an exact match to the one of the Iraqis and Iranians"

He must be a noble prize winning scholar....

what will the Skopjians think up next?! (a better questions is do they actually think!?)

[akritas]

Μόνο στα γερμανικά
Δεν πειράζει.Δώσε το link και μετάφρασε στα αγγλικά σε περίληψη αυτό που αναφέρει αυτός ο professor ήταν Σκοπιανός πρεσβευτής. Όπως είπα το γράψιμο του είναι γνωστό

[Amyntas]

"Makedonien – Seine Identität in Europa"

Vortrag und Gespräch mit Dr. Hans-Lothar Steppan
Herr Steppan war erster Botschafter der Bundesrepublik Deutschland in Makedonien und wird eine landeskundliche und historische Einführung in das Land geben.
http://www.europa-zentrum.de/programm.html

Translation:

"Macedonia - Its Identity in Europe

Talk with Dr. Hans-Lothar Steppan
Mr. Steppan was Germanys first Embassador in Macedonia and will give you some information about the country..........."

I translated it roughly but having the germans talking about FYROM as "Makedonien" instead of the usual "Mazedonien" shows that there is someone pro-skop behind this.

[Slayer]

"Dear brainwashed Greeks"
"have I seen someone as brainwashed as you"
"much more hostile and simply insane than the Greeks that come from Greece"
"And it doesn't help that your little heads are filled with false information about Macedonia (perhaps that is how you were raised)."
"Today's Greek DNA is an exact match to the one of the Iraqis and Iranians"

He must be a noble prize winning scholar....

what will the Skopjians think up next?! (a better questions is do they actually think!?)


Admin, I don`t think we Greeks have taught them how to think as yet, wasn`t giving them a written form of their language and conversion to Orthodox Christianity enough? These lost sheep have to find their own way to Sofia.

[Orphic_Hymn]

These people are trully pathetic...

Anyone literally anyone, even my nephew that's currently in the 5th grade of elementary school could trash every single argument this court-jester (since thats the only profession suitable for him) has presented.
Alleged arguments that clearly depict his ignorance in history, genetics (which of course are far over his head) not to mention the pathetic display of english language that reminds me of standards accustomed to 15yr old street punks instead of that spoken by an alleged professor, who's job is to educate..

For the hell of it lets see what my nephew came up with...


1) FYROM was never a country prior to 1991.
Being a part of the "Kingdom of Yugoslavia" or a republic which is part of a Federation, does not constitute a country.
In none of the two examples above do we find the characteristics that define a country which are : independent political entity, own government, administration, laws, constitution, tax rules...etc.


2) Simply laughable, not to mention that this reminds my nephew of the Cro-magnon crack that is equally if not totally rediculous.



3) Yet another totally ignorant statement by our invisible pseudo-professor. Had he ever spent a min. to read O. Semino's "Origin, Diffusion, and Differentiation of Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J" he would have known that the research on Hellines in comparison to both Northern and Central Italians indicated approx. the same percentage of Haplogroup J and the clades M172 and M257 which are NON-EXISTANT in the Basques.



4) Its obvious from both this and the above statement that the specific individual is a totally ignorant propagandist that has never read results of a single genetic research, ever..



5) No objection to neither Alexander nor Philip being Makedones, the objection comes to them being related to the Bulgaro-Slavic mixture the FYROMians are. But we must also note that the pseudo-historian is again caught in his ignorance, for the Spartan customs and way of life are well recorded even after the birth of Christ as any real historian will indicate... but in this case, we obviously are not dealing with a historian..



6) Since the individual in question is hardly a historian, not to mention totally ignorant of the issues he attempted to present as his arguments like the genetics fallacy seen above.
Obviously noone will give any real attention to his claims on the Hellinic language. You don't really have to be a nuclear scientist to comprehend the concept of evolution, which is why every real linguist has indicated the direct continuety from Linear B' to Homeric to Classic to Koine to today spoken Hellinic..


7) Not only totally ignorant but also has adopted the well known Ristov tactic of manipulating history...
Metodija Andonov Chento was NEVER assasinated as this psudo-historian claims, but he was put in prison in 1948 and died in the late 1950's...


8) Yet another indication of the Slavic origins of newly formed pseudo-ethnicity that has absolutely no connection to the ancient Makedones.
The peudo-historian accuses us of changing the name of the city called Solun in their barbaric Slavo-Bulgaric dialect to its proper name, a name that indicates its Hellinic origin since the very day it was founded in 315 BC... Thessaloniki..


9) Non-existant artifacts to cover up for the fact that not a single non-Hellinic inscription has been found. Not to mention that Risto ignores that the vast majority of excavations throughout Hella,s are preformed by foreign Universities..
The world wide conspiracy is simply more than obvious..:lol:


10) Interesting claim, why do people actually strive to propagandate their ignorance ???

Had there been any research by the Risto wanna-be sidekick, he would have known that the region in question was always titled Makedonia since the very day we liberated it from them...
The actual title of "General Administration of Makedonia" was actually used since 1912.. so once again these claims are non-existant.






I'd like to take this advantage and thank my little nephew on behalf of all of Macedoniaontheweb for this simple, yet so accurate uncovering of the fallacies presented by the Risto propaganda machine...

[Slayer]

Orphic_Hymn

Can you please shout your nephew a beer for me for a job well done:cheers:

[Orphic_Hymn]

I think a chocolate milk is more in order...
But I'll have a couple of beers for him no doubt..:lol: