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Paulos Melas
02-03-2008, 09:36 AM
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMacedonia/map.html

Paulos Melas
02-03-2008, 09:39 AM
Not only should we veto them for EU and NATO but we should resolve the issue with other much more effective means.
Clearly the name of Macedonia concists an assymetric threat for all balkans and immediate action is required!!!

Greek-Cowboy
02-03-2008, 01:42 PM
http://www.unitedmacedonians.org/macedonia/maps.html

Very Interesting

Astoria
02-04-2008, 01:38 AM
Terrorists

Demetrios Doukas
02-04-2008, 11:10 AM
The greatest arrogance and insulence is shown from this neighboring countries around Greece. No one loves Greece in the balkans she is surrounded only from enemies it seems, nothing new though...

Truth Bearer
02-05-2008, 09:42 AM
And funny about that the Albanians,Serbs,Bulgarians,Romanians,Turks and fyromians say the same thing....
We don't need to play the victim.

TirAlb
02-05-2008, 12:51 PM
Not only should we veto them for EU and NATO but we should resolve the issue with other much more effective means.
Clearly the name of Macedonia concists an assymetric threat for all balkans and immediate action is required!!!

Im sorry for your disappointment!But let him who is without sin cast the first stone,no?

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/greateralbania1.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png/800px-ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png

http://www.geocities.com/knin81995/GreaterSerbia.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Bulgaria-SanStefano_-%281878%29-byTodorBozhinov.png/769px-Bulgaria-SanStefano_-%281878%29-byTodorBozhinov.png

Morphesau
02-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Im sorry for your disappointment!But let him who is without sin cast the first stone,no?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png/800px-ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png

We are ready to cast the first stone as Epirus is historically Greek. Yes ?. And would simply be returning to mother Hellas again. Yes ?.

TirAlb
02-05-2008, 01:41 PM
We are ready to cast the first stone as Epirus is historically Greek. Yes ?. And would simply be returning to mother Hellas again. Yes ?.

And i forgot to say that this map is the only,somehow reliable.


http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/greateralbania1.JPG

Morphesau
02-05-2008, 01:51 PM
According to UCk ? propaganda. I forgot to mention in 1915 the Treaty of London (26 April) not only accepted autonomy for Northern Epirus but also stipulated the transfer of this region to Greece. Well what happened?

TirAlb
02-05-2008, 02:16 PM
According to UCk ? propaganda. I forgot to mention in 1915 the Treaty of London (26 April) not only accepted autonomy for Northern Epirus but also stipulated the transfer of this region to Greece. Well what happened?

Who accepted it,not the people living in those areas?

The Kingdom of Montenegro was assigned Dubrovnik, and the coast south to the Albanian port San Giovanni di Medua. Also, but less precisely, Serbia was promised Bosnia-Herzegovina, Srem, Backa, Slavonia (this one against the Italian objections), and some unspecified areas of Albania (to be divided between Serbia, Montenegro, and Greece).

Assigned,Promised,Divided,nice pact,a group of thiefes sharing their spoils.

Morphesau
02-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Who accepted it,not the people living in those areas?



Assigned,Promised,Divided,nice pact,a group of thiefes sharing their spoils.

According to the 1878 League of Prizren.

The so-called League met in a Prizren mosque where a 60-member board headed by Abdul Bey Frasheri drafted a memorandum, which was submitted to the leaders convened at the Congress of Berlin. The Prizren League sought to unite the vilayets or provinces of the Ottoman Empire of Janina or Janjevo centered in Northern Greece, the Chameria region, Bitola or Bitolj (Monastir) centered in Macedonia, the Illirida region, Skutari or Shkoder centered near Montenegro, and Kosovo, Kosovo-Metohija, into a single administrative and political unit, a territory which united all the Albanian-inhabited regions of the Balkans into a Greater Albania. The Prizren League was crucial in uniting Albanian leaders in creating and establishing a political and nationalist ideology and political program and agenda to create an Albanian nation or state. Historically, there had never been an Albanian nation or state. Medienal attempts to forge a unified Albanian nation or state under Gjergj Kastrioti, Skanderbeg, had failed. The emergence of an Albanian nationalist ideology was in reaction to the nationalist independence and liberation movements of Orthodox Serbians, Greeks, Bulgarians, and Balkan Orthodox Slavs. The emergence of a nationalist ideology of Greater Albania was precipitated by the defeat of the Ottoman Turks in 1878, a defeat which endangered the Albanian position in the Ottoman Empire. The Orthodox Slavs, the rayah or subhumans, the second-class citizens, were gaining independence from the Ottoman occupation. In the Ottoman Empire, status and position had been achieved through religion and not through nationality.


Night.

digenis
02-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Some people shouldnt just stare at maps like little kids do with bright pics!

Simple reading of the labels clarifies everything.

For ex. the "Great Greece" map is a historical map that shows what Eleftherios Venizelos claimed for Greece ,in the Conference made after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in WWI (1918).

The first maps are what is "ethnic maps of Macedonia" in 2008 in the sick minds of some fanatic (although hungry) nationalists...

TirAlb
02-06-2008, 03:21 AM
According to the 1878 League of Prizren.

The so-called League met in a Prizren mosque where a 60-member board headed by Abdul Bey Frasheri drafted a memorandum, which was submitted to the leaders convened at the Congress of Berlin. The Prizren League sought to unite the vilayets or provinces of the Ottoman Empire of Janina or Janjevo centered in Northern Greece, the Chameria region, Bitola or Bitolj (Monastir) centered in Macedonia, the Illirida region, Skutari or Shkoder centered near Montenegro, and Kosovo, Kosovo-Metohija, into a single administrative and political unit, a territory which united all the Albanian-inhabited regions of the Balkans into a Greater Albania. The Prizren League was crucial in uniting Albanian leaders in creating and establishing a political and nationalist ideology and political program and agenda to create an Albanian nation or state. Historically, there had never been an Albanian nation or state. Medienal attempts to forge a unified Albanian nation or state under Gjergj Kastrioti, Skanderbeg, had failed. The emergence of an Albanian nationalist ideology was in reaction to the nationalist independence and liberation movements of Orthodox Serbians, Greeks, Bulgarians, and Balkan Orthodox Slavs. The emergence of a nationalist ideology of Greater Albania was precipitated by the defeat of the Ottoman Turks in 1878, a defeat which endangered the Albanian position in the Ottoman Empire. The Orthodox Slavs, the rayah or subhumans, the second-class citizens, were gaining independence from the Ottoman occupation. In the Ottoman Empire, status and position had been achieved through religion and not through nationality.


Night.
So,what are you trying to say?Here we are again at that,"cast the the first stone" saying,and the league of prizren obviously its not the case.And by the way were did you find the similarities between the,London pact and The League?

Morphesau
02-06-2008, 08:37 AM
It means you’re on occupied lands. As invaders to regions that isn't yours historically "Vorio Epirus" for an example.

TirAlb
02-06-2008, 09:39 AM
I don't know who the invader is,but i just know that our "historial" border is Arta bay!

ps.We are going out of topic with usless posts,i gave my contribution to the thread in my first post,if you falied to understand my (not that subtle)irony in it,well that's not my problem.

Morphesau
02-06-2008, 09:50 AM
ps.We are going out of topic with usless posts,

Aren't usles posts but yes we are going off topic. Only if one would reply rather than ignoring my last messages on other topics.

TirAlb
02-06-2008, 09:53 AM
my last messages on other topics.
...for example?