akritas
12-01-2005, 05:55 PM
As you known after a debate [http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=698 ] that I have with my Slavomacedonians co-speakers in the macforum I proved simply that the specific inscription was not Venetic.
As I already said in in order to prove something in the international community must follow some steps. These steps are:
• first step is the publish of the work by proofs in big houses and organizations such as Official archaeological magazines, International meetings, Universities (that has related section) e.t.c. The specific inscription have the book and the positive opinion of PhD Charles Bryant-Abraham
•Second step is to going to recognize this work world wide must have the positive opinion from three undependable Houses. When I mean undependable mean that e.g. Slovenia Houses and Macedonian Houses are not undependable regarding the Venetic issue. In Greece in order to prove something (archaeological) usually work Universities from England, France and Italy. Recently we have and the Turkey via Constantinople Houses(Museum, University). This Step for the venetic inscription never had done
•and third step after the recognition must be publish in the country that have the inhibition. In this case is Syria. Also Syria museums answered negative in the existence of any venetic inscriptions in any historical era!!!
Mr Ambrozic write in his book
DIVISION AND ALPHABETIZATION
First Line
...DI MI HRANET TO JESEN ZHENO H IO SDRAIE IA JE I RASIA RIBOLEUJC
Second Line
…“AT JE” (?) GOSTOJETOT ON JET OJI DE I TE ROJ…J
TRANSCRIPTION
First Line
DI MI HRANET TO JESEN ZHENO H JO SDRAIE JA JE I RASIA RIBOLEUJC
Second Line
…“AT JE” (?) GOSTOJETOT ON JE TOJI DE I TE ROJ (VAR)J !
If you observe in the given scanner photos [ http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=698&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 ] you will see clearly that Mr Ambrozic forgets to mention two major thinks:
•In the First line he forgot to alphabetized and transcript some letters, such as the DY(first line, 3-4 letters)
• and one character in the second line that was the sampri (a Greek numerical letter)
In the inscription according the scanner photos you can see clearly the:
•The letters on the epigraph:
-OD- E -OD- YMI8PANEΠOHCENZHNO8IOC -RKB- AIEIAEIBACIAPIBWLEOYC
C (missing) TPATHΓOCTOΞOTWNETOYCΔEYTEPOY, and the two characters (one of them is the sampri)
•The letters between the "-" can't be recognised easily. The first and third letter don't know whether is O or D. The 26th letter don't know whether is R, K or B.
•In the second line you can read clearly "ΣΤΡΑΤΗΓΟΣ ΤΟΞΟΤΩΝ ΕΤΟΥΣ ΔΕΥΤΕΡΟΥ" or STRATEGOS TOXOTON ETOUS DEYTEROU
•In the first line you can see clearly the word ΙΑΡΙΒΩΛΕΟΥΣ from the Syrian God Yaribol.
•The sampri was the date of the 990. This mean that passed 990 years after the establishment of the Romans. If we estimate the Christian date of the 753 B.C.( establishment of the Romans) and the 990-753 will find clearly that the date of the inscription was the 237 A.D.
So the inscription read:
ΘΕΟY ΜΙΘΡΑΝ ΕΠΟΙΗΣΕΝ ΖΗΝΟΒΙΟΣ Ο ΚΑΙ ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ
ΙΑΡΙΒΩΛΕΟΥΣ(Σ)ΤΡΑΤΗΓΟΣΤΟΞΟΤΩΝΕΤΟΥΣΔΕΥΤΕΡΟΥΙΙΥ 990
A literal transcription of the words is as follows:
"God Mithra built by Zenobios and seated Iariboleous commander archers of the second year 990"
The translation is therefore as follows:
"For the God Mithras constructed by Zenobios and the seated Iariboleous commander of the second archers in the year 990" (i.e. 237 AD, being 990 years since the founding of Rome in 753 BC).
Note that 3 names are clearly mentioned in the inscription:
1. Mithras, the Persian diety worshipped in many parts of the Roman Empire at the time. The god Mithras was also protector and patron of archers since he was himself the "divine archer" (see: http://www.farvardyn.com/mithras1.php (http://www.farvardyn.com/mithras1.php) )
2. Zenobios. Zenobios Means "life of Zeus", derived from Greek Ζηνο (Zeno), a prefix form of the name of Zeus, combined with βιος (bios) "life". This was the name of Zenobia, a 3rd-century queen of Palmyra (see: http://www.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=zenobia&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or (http://www.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=zenobia&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or) )
3. Iariboleous. This is the name of one of the dedicators of the inscription. His name is based on the Greek name of the Semitic Palmyrene god Hierobal or Yaribol (see: http://www.archbase.com/berenike/UCstudentLA3.html (http://www.archbase.com/berenike/UCstudentLA3.html) ). Iariboleous is a commander of archers, and therefore a worshipper of Mithras, the patron god of archers.
The word "ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ" is a Semitic Palmyrene word written in Greek form. The semitic word is "Yasiba", which means "sitting, seated or enthroned".
In the engraved sculpture, Iariboleous can be clearly seen seated to the right of Mithras and the other figures.
The inscription is therefore written in the Greek language with the addition of Semitic Palmyrene word "Yasiba" (i.e. "ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ" in the inscription).
akritas
As I already said in in order to prove something in the international community must follow some steps. These steps are:
• first step is the publish of the work by proofs in big houses and organizations such as Official archaeological magazines, International meetings, Universities (that has related section) e.t.c. The specific inscription have the book and the positive opinion of PhD Charles Bryant-Abraham
•Second step is to going to recognize this work world wide must have the positive opinion from three undependable Houses. When I mean undependable mean that e.g. Slovenia Houses and Macedonian Houses are not undependable regarding the Venetic issue. In Greece in order to prove something (archaeological) usually work Universities from England, France and Italy. Recently we have and the Turkey via Constantinople Houses(Museum, University). This Step for the venetic inscription never had done
•and third step after the recognition must be publish in the country that have the inhibition. In this case is Syria. Also Syria museums answered negative in the existence of any venetic inscriptions in any historical era!!!
Mr Ambrozic write in his book
DIVISION AND ALPHABETIZATION
First Line
...DI MI HRANET TO JESEN ZHENO H IO SDRAIE IA JE I RASIA RIBOLEUJC
Second Line
…“AT JE” (?) GOSTOJETOT ON JET OJI DE I TE ROJ…J
TRANSCRIPTION
First Line
DI MI HRANET TO JESEN ZHENO H JO SDRAIE JA JE I RASIA RIBOLEUJC
Second Line
…“AT JE” (?) GOSTOJETOT ON JE TOJI DE I TE ROJ (VAR)J !
If you observe in the given scanner photos [ http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=698&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 ] you will see clearly that Mr Ambrozic forgets to mention two major thinks:
•In the First line he forgot to alphabetized and transcript some letters, such as the DY(first line, 3-4 letters)
• and one character in the second line that was the sampri (a Greek numerical letter)
In the inscription according the scanner photos you can see clearly the:
•The letters on the epigraph:
-OD- E -OD- YMI8PANEΠOHCENZHNO8IOC -RKB- AIEIAEIBACIAPIBWLEOYC
C (missing) TPATHΓOCTOΞOTWNETOYCΔEYTEPOY, and the two characters (one of them is the sampri)
•The letters between the "-" can't be recognised easily. The first and third letter don't know whether is O or D. The 26th letter don't know whether is R, K or B.
•In the second line you can read clearly "ΣΤΡΑΤΗΓΟΣ ΤΟΞΟΤΩΝ ΕΤΟΥΣ ΔΕΥΤΕΡΟΥ" or STRATEGOS TOXOTON ETOUS DEYTEROU
•In the first line you can see clearly the word ΙΑΡΙΒΩΛΕΟΥΣ from the Syrian God Yaribol.
•The sampri was the date of the 990. This mean that passed 990 years after the establishment of the Romans. If we estimate the Christian date of the 753 B.C.( establishment of the Romans) and the 990-753 will find clearly that the date of the inscription was the 237 A.D.
So the inscription read:
ΘΕΟY ΜΙΘΡΑΝ ΕΠΟΙΗΣΕΝ ΖΗΝΟΒΙΟΣ Ο ΚΑΙ ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ
ΙΑΡΙΒΩΛΕΟΥΣ(Σ)ΤΡΑΤΗΓΟΣΤΟΞΟΤΩΝΕΤΟΥΣΔΕΥΤΕΡΟΥΙΙΥ 990
A literal transcription of the words is as follows:
"God Mithra built by Zenobios and seated Iariboleous commander archers of the second year 990"
The translation is therefore as follows:
"For the God Mithras constructed by Zenobios and the seated Iariboleous commander of the second archers in the year 990" (i.e. 237 AD, being 990 years since the founding of Rome in 753 BC).
Note that 3 names are clearly mentioned in the inscription:
1. Mithras, the Persian diety worshipped in many parts of the Roman Empire at the time. The god Mithras was also protector and patron of archers since he was himself the "divine archer" (see: http://www.farvardyn.com/mithras1.php (http://www.farvardyn.com/mithras1.php) )
2. Zenobios. Zenobios Means "life of Zeus", derived from Greek Ζηνο (Zeno), a prefix form of the name of Zeus, combined with βιος (bios) "life". This was the name of Zenobia, a 3rd-century queen of Palmyra (see: http://www.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=zenobia&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or (http://www.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=zenobia&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or) )
3. Iariboleous. This is the name of one of the dedicators of the inscription. His name is based on the Greek name of the Semitic Palmyrene god Hierobal or Yaribol (see: http://www.archbase.com/berenike/UCstudentLA3.html (http://www.archbase.com/berenike/UCstudentLA3.html) ). Iariboleous is a commander of archers, and therefore a worshipper of Mithras, the patron god of archers.
The word "ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ" is a Semitic Palmyrene word written in Greek form. The semitic word is "Yasiba", which means "sitting, seated or enthroned".
In the engraved sculpture, Iariboleous can be clearly seen seated to the right of Mithras and the other figures.
The inscription is therefore written in the Greek language with the addition of Semitic Palmyrene word "Yasiba" (i.e. "ΕΙΑΣΙΒΑΣ" in the inscription).
akritas