Risto Stefov the Great Liar

[admin]

Risto the Liar:

"Macedonia never waged war, commited genocide, used ethnic cleansing, forced population exchanges, expelled people from their homes, relocated massive populations, changed people's names, changed toponymn names, assimilated people by force, faked history, ... ." the list goes on as he is referring to a great natioin.

if he is referring to FYROMians and Skopjians this is untrue... true Macedonian's ie Greeks may be another story.

However

1) FYROMians and Skopjians have not only faked history, but have tried to change it.
Case in point:

A letter from Alexander to Aristotle. (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/alexfake.html)

Is Ristov really educated or simply a propaganda artist paid by FYROM?


2) FYROM and SKopje has come to exist by the assimilation and destruction of ancient Greek lands and peoples. Slavic raiders from the 5th - 9th centuries AD attacked, killed, and raided northern Hellenic people and have come to possess those lands which they previously did not inhabitate.
Case in point, why are there no artifacts from ancient times with the Slavic language?

3) All toponymns of their "Macedonia" have been changed from ancient Greek names (Macedonian) to Bulgarian-Skopjian names.


4) Unjust treatment and subjugation of Albanian "minorities" which constitute over 40% of their population.






to be continued...

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

I'm not convinced this fool is paid by the Skopjian government (who knows?), however, I am certain he has far too much time to promote hate. Funny how he sometimes tries to veil it, but it most certainly is promoting hate and lies. He is getting something he wants though, publicity. What a wanker. If he had any self esteem left I would tell him to get some help. I hope he doesn't poison too many of our forgotten kids still under the influence of the propanganda and hate.

[preston]

Chris Stefou the Lerin Region Association’s President
hometown, Toronto Canada.
Birthplace Trigono, periferia Antartikou (Oschima)
http://ca.geocities.com/macedonnews@rogers.com/loro.jpg

[terastios]

He is getting something he wants though, publicity. What a wanker..
Keep helping him on that by respond to his delirium and show photos of him!
Just let him forgoten and end up where he belongs...6 feet under or in a dustbin!

[Tsontos]

tsiganoi..

[Dikigoros1981]

I'll assume the gentleman in the middle is Mr Stefov, with the name "Chris Stefou"? Is this correct?

Dikigoros1981

[HellenicPride]

I'll assume the gentleman in the middle is Mr Stefov, with the name "Chris Stefou"? Is this correct?

Dikigoros1981

You assume correct.

[Melbourne]

Hi guys,

I am terrible when it comes to working out how to copy and paste pictures.

Can someone please post his picture onto every possible Greek site imagineable!!!

Let Greeks around the world know the identity of the man whom wants to exterminate them!!!

I am sure the Greek Government already knows who he is, however what I cannot understand is how someone whom advocates the destruction of the Greek State and the Greek race is not considered a terrorist.

If he attempts to visit the Greek State he should be arrested and tried for advocating violence against people of Greek heritage in the Diaspora.

[HellenicPride]

Dont worry about it guys. Im gonna put him up on my website and ridicule him. Im gonna show the web what this guy really is. Nothing more than a parasite. Tha tou valo ta dio podia se ena papoutsi to shxama....

[HellenicPride]

As a matter of fact I send him an email and he responed to me here is a copy of his response:


(Pages 101 to 103 from the book ?The Macedonian Knot? by Hans
Lothar-Steppan)

A Bulgarian document dated 1900 was discovered in Germany which is of
immense importance for Macedonia.

According to Hans Lothar-Steppan, in December 1909 the German Ambassador to
Serbia came across a document which he forwarded to his Department of
Foreign Affairs. The document, dated 1900, was a report the Bulgarian
Government had sent to their Bulgarian representative in Belgrade, Serbia.
The report detailed Serbian activities with regard to disseminating
?stimulation for division? information in the Serbian sphere on influence
inside Macedonia. In other words, the Bulgarians were concerned about
Serbia?s approach to informing the Macedonian people regarding the
partitioning their country.

In part, the report reads as follows:

?We have indisputable evidence from events that have occurred in the last
few years that a vast majority of the Christian population in Macedonia will
greet the division of Macedonia with hostility. Their own desires are very
simple, they want:

1. Guarantees for their personal security,
2. Private property rights,
3. The right of freedom so that they can live in peace and run their own
affairs in peace, and
4. Enjoy their rights as equal citizens of the Ottoman State in accordance
with international treaties and the laws of the Ottoman Empire.

Any attempt at division will cause great dissatisfaction among the
Macedonians which will not only bring diplomatically damaging repercussions
for us inside Macedonia but will disturb the entire peace in the Balkans and
may provoke conflicts that will spill over into Bulgaria as well as into
Serbia.

A few years ago, when we posed the question of division in our sphere of
influence, we experienced protests and hostilities from the Macedonian
people. They adamantly fought against any division of Macedonia and insisted
that they did not want to be under anyone?s guardianship or tutelage.
The idea of self-determination in a separate state has become very popular
very quickly among the Macedonian people and any attempts for kinship with
other Balkan States will be met with resistance.?

This is a rare text which has preserved the idea that the Macedonian people
were not just simply victims of their aggressive neighbours but hints that
there was a certain negotiation between them.

We are left with the impression that the Macedonian people were simply the
object of imperial greed, victims of their Christian neighbours, a tragedy
of history, but seventy-eight years later, after their county was
partitioned, even as a small part of what they were, they again appear as
Macedonians.

Every sentence in the above text expresses the Macedonian sentiment of the
time:

1. The hostility of the Macedonian people against any division,
2. The desire for self-determination under the name Macedonia was manifested
even before 1900,
3. Any attempts at dividing Macedonia would provoke the greatest
dissatisfaction and conflict,
4. No peace and stability for Bulgaria or Serbia, and
5. The refusal of Macedonians into any kind of kinship with any of the
Balkan States.

This document, without a doubt, is clear evidence of Macedonian desire for
self- determination.

NOTES of interest:

1. Even though it was well known to all the Balkan nations that the
Macedonians harboured desires for independence and had no desires to be
annexed by Greece, Bulgaria or Serbia, their Christian brothers the Greeks,
Bulgarian and Serbians took them from one servitude to another. It was their
plan all along to liberate them from the Ottomans and subjugate them,
forcing them to vanish from history.

What is worse is that they almost succeeded were it not for the ?spirit of
time? and that the world no longer lives in ?imperial times? but in times of
human and minority rights. Unfortunately, the same States who didn?t
hesitate to partition Macedonia in the first place still follow the Turkish
Rules of deception which they learned very well and to this day are
practicing them on European Governments and World institutions.

Case and point: Greece is well versed with history yet it doesn?t hesitate
to play the role of a victim when it comes to the Macedonian question,
accusing the Macedonians of stealing their State, State name, and State
symbols!

Even in the 21st century, the same actors, to this day, still tell the same
lies plotting and scheming against the Macedonians. They do this with
contempt for international law which demonstrates to the democratic powers
in the West, specifically the United Nations and the European Union of how
weak their executive power is, when it comes to enforcing western standards
and values. Isn?t it time they put an end to this?

2. People born from such a disadvantage feel tragically powerless; beaten
down by history and robbed of their quality and innocence.
Imagine if this Bulgarian document became available to the world not in 1909
but in 1900 when it was written and if the world knew the Macedonian
peoples? desire for freedom and independence. Would the West, Europe and
Russia have reacted differently? Would the Illinden uprising of 1903 been
supported and would it have succeeded?

Most certainly the Macedonian people would have risen and regained their
ethnic territory with its old ethnic borders in which they lived for at
least fourteen hundred years. The Macedonian question would have been
settled peacefully. The Balkan wars of 1912 and 1913 with all their
injustices would not have taken place and would not have provoked new
injustices. The Macedonian people would have achieved their total
independence much earlier and would not have had to wait until 1989/90 to
achieve only partial independence.

Unfortunately, this history cares not for rights and laws much less for
Justice.
Bulgarians, Greeks and Albanians have written history in their own
nationalistic and egoistic interests, which is not right. Only through
Western Power intervention can the falsification of history be rectified and
the damage done be repaired.

3. The words, as they were written in the Bulgarian document in 1900, hold
true today as they did then and that is Macedonians want:

1. Guarantees for their personal security,
2. Private property rights,
3. The right of freedom so that they can live in peace and run their own
affairs in peace, and
4. Enjoy their rights as equal citizens in their own State in accordance
with international treaties and the world laws.

Macedonians of the early 20th century possessed the wisdom to desire peace,
not conquest, and to live free in their own homeland. Today?s Macedonians,
in the author?s opinion still want the same things.

The Macedonians are the only people in the Balkans who have learned their
lessons from centuries of servitude to power-thirsty imperialists and who
have no intention of repeating 19th and 20th century practices in the 21st
century.

Should the Balkan experts wish to correct the problems in the Balkans they
must first start by righting the past wrongs. They must give the Macedonians
consideration for what they stand for and for their high moral qualities.

In response to the statement that Macedonians hate the Moslems for the
five-hundred years of Ottoman occupation, which some believe ignited the war
in Bosnia, Chris Voss writes, in his opinion this hate ?is present less in
Macedonia because of the long tradition of ethnic tolerance and because of
the apparently lower ?ecumenical identity? than with Orthodox neighbours
Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria.?

Macedonian tolerance was the same then as it is now in the 21st century both
inside and outside of the Republic of Macedonia.
As the old saying goes; even the best behaved man cannot live in peace if
his neighbour is evil.

So the real question is; should the European Union continue to turn a blind
eye to untruths and injustices or do something about it to remove them?


>From: HellenicRage76@aol.com
>To: rstefov@hotmail.com
>Subject: (no subject)
>Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:50:42 EST

I tried to respond back but somehow he has blocked me from emailing lol. I called him a liar and an anti greek propagandist. So his response is by sending me another bullshit article. To malakaismeno! I told him I was going to make a mockery out of him in my website.

[admin]

Terastie is right, we really don't need to read his "educational" material. Its much like asking a child where he came from....our time is better spent elsewhere.

Thread closed until further notice.

[akritas]

Please do not send any e-mail. :throwup: to him