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bnoah
10-27-2007, 07:18 PM
The ancient Greeks took a lot of African knowledge and claimed it as their own. That is why in the modern world you seldom hear of Greek intellectuals on the world stage. It is more difficult to take credit for someone else's intellectual work without giving them credit for it.
Ptolemy
10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
So that explains why currently modern Africans are in the deep bottom of human wisdom. They lost all their "knowledge" from ancient Greeks centuries ago. Thanks for sharing.
Orphic_Hymn
10-27-2007, 08:17 PM
Well I guess a thank you to these unknown Africans must be in order here..
As for the modern world, it seems like you don't know much about it my friend and are simply totally ignorant of the fields in which they profess:
Here are some of many which could be noted
*Konstantinos Karatheodoris according to Einstein's letters which are kept in the National Archives of Israel, is he who literally gave Einstein the mathematical part of his theory, in short, Einstein based his entire theory on Karatheodoris' work..
*Nicholas Metropolis (co-founder of the 'Santa Fe Institute and' inventor of the "MANIAC" (Mathematical Numerical Integrator and Computer) and the "Μonde Carlo Methode" specialized in scientific computing..
In his honor the "Nicholas Metropolis Award for Outstanding Doctoral Thesis Work in Computational Physics" award is given each year..
*Thomas Ypsilantis, physics prof. member of the group of the "Lawrence Radiation Laboratory" that invented the 'Antiproton' (the others were Emilio Segre, Owen Chamberlain, Clyde Wiegand).
He later became prof. in Berkeley Uni and then at CERN..
*Georgios Gkiolvas among several achievments, is the inventor of the anti-aircraft Artemis 30 and had a huge contribution to the 'Bevatron'.
*Joan Vernikos, Director of the Life Sciences Division, in charge of all NASA biological and biomedical research activities
*Phaedon Avouris, chemist at IBM. Candidate for the 2003 Nobel Prize in Physics, awarded the Irving Langmuir Prize in the same year.
*Georgios Papanikolaou.. inventor of the Pap test..
If you'd like I can add more..
PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
10-27-2007, 09:02 PM
The ancient Greeks took a lot of African knowledge and claimed it as their own. That is why in the modern world you seldom hear of Greek intellectuals on the world stage. It is more difficult to take credit for someone else's intellectual work without giving them credit for it.
Oh my, you really stepped in it, and on your first post on this site. I will challenge you on the Black Athena claim as well. Pretty arrogant to claim Greece's accomplishments. Now it seems you are claiming they were stolen and not that Athens was an African community. Just want to make sure as I find it difficult to keep up with the claims of revisionists.
You do understand many of those Black Athena type claims have been discreditted. Don't you? Black Athena Revisited
Edited by Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers covers a lot of it. It may be a good place, to start that is. "In this collection of twenty essays, leading scholars in a broad range of disciplines confront the claims made by Martin Bernal in Black Athena: The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization."
Happy reading mate.
pankration
10-27-2007, 11:37 PM
Black Athena? Too stupid to respond to this time of night.
Euklid
10-28-2007, 07:45 AM
Black Athena, i think this guy, has taken it a step further and made it even Black Noah..."bnoah".
In her essay Dr Mary Lefkowitz(Not out of Africa), explains about the Jews and Egyptians, and their struggle to usurp Greek civilization in Alexandria, she writes:
“The Jews shared the Egyptians’ patronizing attitude towards the dominant Greek culture. Jewish historians were determined to show that although the Jewish people were now subject to Greeks, they not only understood Greek culture… but these writers sought to show that Greek religion and philosophy had been inspired by Hebrew ideas… But an even more definitive assertion of the derivative nature of Greek culture was made by an Alexandrian Jew called Aristobulus in the second century BCE. Aristobulus did not hesitate to invent information, or to report information invented by others… He said that Greek philosophers Pythagoras, Socrates and Plato knew and studied the books of Moses… Of course, no scholar today would take seriously that claim… [but] by the first century CE some people believed [it, and]… the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria and the Jewish historian Josephus both speak of Moses influence on Plato… Later, church fathers like Clement of Alexandria (150-215 CE) and Eusebius (260-340 CE), took a decisively more hostile line… accusing the Greeks of theft and plagiarism… The determination of both Jews and Christians to assert the priority of Hebrew culture over the Greeks, helps to explain why the Egyptians where eager to point out… that, the famous Greeks were inspired by Egyptian learning. It was a way of asserting the importance of their culture, especially in a time when they had little or no political power… But the fate of Jewish ethnic historians like Aristobulus offer a warning to modern day advocates of Greek cultural dependency. How many people have ever heard of Aristobulus? And, more importantly, who believes him?” (pp 85-86)
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"It was a way of asserting the importance of their culture, especially in a time when they had little or no political power…"
This is the reason as to why, you, the Fyromaniacs, and the Jews, have been struggling to usurp the crystal-clearly Greek civilization, it is a way of making oneself feel good, while at a time of no political power.
Tsontos
10-28-2007, 08:48 AM
So that explains why currently modern Africans are in the deep bottom of human wisdom. They lost all their "knowledge" from ancient Greeks centuries ago. Thanks for sharing.
I have nothing against Africans, but I have to say I laughed my ass off when I read this.:lol:
an upirxe NOBEL gia thn pwlish twn cd sthn paralia........
makedon
12-11-2007, 08:18 PM
The ancient Greeks took a lot of African knowledge and claimed it as their own. That is why in the modern world you seldom hear of Greek intellectuals on the world stage. It is more difficult to take credit for someone else's intellectual work without giving them credit for it.
:heh::heh::heh::heh::heh::heh:
Even the greek hillbillies had theatres and knew of Euripedes and his peers. Masters unsurpassed even
to this day.
I won't even comment on the rest of the world.
Africa takes the cake, I could get banned for
posting about it.:huh:
:hello:
I would ban this troll :headbonk: evreos
makedon
12-11-2007, 08:32 PM
Greeks curing Cancer up against the $1 trillion USD business where they fatten and sicken the cows to be
bled for profit.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/34040.php
http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/health/cosmetics/
"The research team at the University of Alberta has been working on this project for more than 2 years now. Early on, two of the investigators (Drs Michelakis and Archer) filed for a "use" patent.
http://www.thedcasite.com/the_michelakis_dca_patent.html
Local business stops online sales of cancer drug
Published: August 1, 2007
By MICHAEL GAHAGAN
For The Union Democrat
http://uniondemocrat.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=24040
http://www.thedcasite.com/
Lakonian
12-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Oh yes we took from many, Africans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Indians, Jews, Chinese, the list is endless. Yet the education sector still credits those damn Greeks! There is something twrong with the world today......its a conspiracy i tell you:dry:
Reaper
12-11-2007, 09:07 PM
The ancient Greeks took a lot of African knowledge and claimed it as their own. That is why in the modern world you seldom hear of Greek intellectuals on the world stage. It is more difficult to take credit for someone else's intellectual work without giving them credit for it.
I think Bulagarian offal like to steal more no, Fyromian? I mean Alexander the Wankski.
TallOne
03-27-2008, 12:54 PM
Greeks stole history from the Africans!? That brought a tear to my eye. The Africans 2000 years ago were proberly better of than they are today
kostas68
03-27-2008, 04:19 PM
Don't forget our 2 Nobel prize winners in literature:Georgios Seferis,1963 and Odysseas Elytis,1979.
Promethean Fire
03-28-2008, 05:02 AM
Why is thread even re kindled? It was an obvious attempt by the thread starter to get a reaction....
Andrew
03-28-2008, 05:51 PM
Boys... Boys ...Boys ...the answer is
here : http://frikipaideia.wikia.com/wiki/%CE%91%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%BF%CE%B9_%CE%88% CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%82
...because ..Greeks went back to the star Syrius !!!!!
pankration
03-29-2008, 02:38 AM
Boys... Boys ...Boys ...the answer is
here : http://frikipaideia.wikia.com/wiki/%CE%91%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%BF%CE%B9_%CE%88% CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%82
...because ..Greeks went back to the star Syrius !!!!!
:clap2::clap2:
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