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terastios
02-20-2006, 01:17 PM
http://www.mymacedonia.net/aegean/aegean.htm

here r the cities they want to "free" from the greeks,Thessaloniki,kavalla,kilkis,edessa ect.

http://www.mymacedonia.net/aegean/pictures.htm

http://www.popovashapka.com/macedoniainfo/history/20vek_aegean.htm

http://www.makedonija.info/map1.jpg

HellenicPride
02-20-2006, 01:35 PM
http://www.mymacedonia.net/aegean/aegean.htm

here r the cities they want to "free" from the greeks,Thessaloniki,kavalla,kilkis,edessa ect.

http://www.mymacedonia.net/aegean/pictures.htm

http://www.popovashapka.com/macedoniainfo/history/20vek_aegean.htm

http://www.makedonija.info/map1.jpg

Only in their dreams. Afta ta shxamata need a huge wake up call. Its funny how propaganda can brainwash people to the point of no return.

akritas
02-20-2006, 01:53 PM
The problem is that Albanians has already take the 1/3 of their state and soon will be unite with the kossovo. This maps are creation from Bulgarian VMRO, their ancestors regarding propaganda and the supposing Unity!!!!:wacko:

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
02-20-2006, 02:04 PM
MOLON LAVE!!!

HellenicPride
02-20-2006, 02:46 PM
MOLON LAVE!!!


Molon Lave exactly! And for those who never heard of the phrase " Come and get them". :clap2: They will never get Kosovo they do not belong their period. The same goes to skopjiani and Bulgars. They can fantacize all they want but thats all it is a fantasy. Does any one honestly believe that if it came down to it they would actually succeed? I highly doubt it. :nono:

preston
02-22-2006, 02:24 AM
According to their modern way of thinking it goes like this:
Their history has taught them they can not achieve anything by force and by siding with their Bulgarian or Serbian brothers.
Their future dreams are relying on EU and our stupidity. They know that by joining EU Greece will have to open it's borders to them. Using their EU status they will start arriving by the thousands, they will return to their villages etc. That will be in 10 to 15 years time, by then they will also have improved their economy, plus with the ones that live abroad will be able to by a lot of property. More then half a million of them will immigrate in our territory almost immediately. I leave the rest to your imagination and then see how far is the actual map above becoming reality.

terastios
02-22-2006, 03:28 AM
Oh please! Their 64% of their economy it depends on Greece!
The most speaking "foreign" language is Greek!
They know that their future is absolutely tied up with their relation with Greece!
Do you really believe that 500.000 of them they will change the demographic correlation?
I can see their future in the E.U!
They will become ellinophones and their country will become a province of Greek territory(state)!
For example last decade 1 million of hostile Albanians came in Greece and 10 years later their children go to greek schools,they all speak greek,they have properties here in Greece , they love Greece and everytime their goverment takes an anti-Greek desicion they are against their goverment!!!
Understand this: Greece is a strong member of E.U. (and in the international community) and voices like the ones of those brainless scumbags can not effect us in anyway!
Let them call their country Northern Macedonia and then let us unite the "2" Macedonies!!!
It will be just matter of time to absorb them!!!
Think about it!

preston
02-22-2006, 03:36 AM
I’m thinking about it I just can’t be as confident as you!
Ours economy 15-30 years ago was depended on foreign investments where does it depend now?
Their persistence to be absorbed by anyone is evident, nor Serbia, nor Yugoslavia nor us has managed to absorb them their existence today proves it.
There is no comparison with the Albanian immigrants, the one immigrating to our land will have been educated in USA, Australia and Canada…no comparison with the Albanians that immigrated 10 years ago. They already speak your language and know how you think!!!
Terastie…stop being relaxed…this is different and scary!
Think about that Terastie!

terastios
02-22-2006, 03:54 AM
Ok explain to me what can they do?
Armed fight against Greece?
Segregation of state and change of borders with in E.U?
Do you believe that they can degrade the belief of residents of Macedonia?
Do they have the moral basis, the cultural and educative roots to bear in the culture and our tradition?
I dont think so...

preston
02-22-2006, 05:01 AM
I do not know what they can do and I do not want to find out either! One of the reasons we are prosperus and safe is the fact that we have not allowed any of our neighbours to drag us in to conflict. Your GDP per capita is now close to the Australian one (aprx 25,000 US) theirs is $7,500...any trouble within our soil will jeopridize that...lets be smart!

terastios
02-22-2006, 08:42 AM
I do not know what they can do and I do not want to find out either! One of the reasons we are prosperus and safe is the fact that we have not allowed any of our neighbours to drag us in to conflict. Your GDP per capita is now close to the Australian one (aprx 25,000 US) theirs is $7,500...any trouble within our soil will jeopridize that...lets be smart!
Stop make them feel important!
They are nothing more than a flea on a dog's back!
I know its annoiyng but its not gonna kill the dog!
WE ARE GREEKS! WE SURVIVED THROUGH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND AGAINST STRONGER ENEMIES!
IF THEY DONT GET IT BY THE GREEK WAY No1( EDUCATION) THEY'LL GET IT BY THE GREEK WAY No2( FORCE!):laugh: :laugh:

Orphic_Hymn
02-22-2006, 09:20 AM
Hmmm.
The way I see it, no, we don't have anything to fear from neither Albanians dreaming of Giannena or Chameria if you'd prefer nor Skops dreaming of Thessaloniki. Our one and only fear is what the US and the Oil and mine consortiums will decide.
Albania being one of the basic areas of interest in the Balkans was 'payed off' with Kosovo (the Trepca mines were also of great interest) and by doing so, the US managed to form a little protectorate right on the Adriatic where the pipeline ends.. FYROM 's little pay out, was the support in the name issue, Bulgaria is still yet to come..

By doing so, they managed to please 2 of the 3 'parts' (countries) from which the AMBO trans-Balkan pipeline passes.. When you add the little issue of Oil sources being found just off Samothraki, which Turkey demands to have a part of, even though situated well into our undisputed (are they really??) territorial waters.. and all this while, US and UK and of course EU simply silence..


Then you start thinking..


Bulgaria, maybe ????