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Orphic_Hymn
01-17-2006, 03:42 AM
Part 1 of several to come...
Dedicated to our dear friend Nikos..


As we've noted our commie 'brothers' (questionable) have their hands all over the Makedonian issue...

Firstly lets clear that with the following text I do not implicate the brainwashed, illeterate folk that truelly believed that they were striving for the benefit of Hellas... but I am refering to the real traitors that should be removed from our memories and ONLY reffered to as the bad examples of Hellines like those of Ephialtis who assisted the Persians at Thermopyles and Mposinas who assisted the Egyptians at Mani..


Originally formed by the anti - Hellinic Jew of Bulgarian decent Abraham Benarogias,under the name of "'Federacion Sosialista', their very first representatives were interestingly enough for an allegedly Hellinic political party, also of Jews of Bulgarian origin (Koen, Ventoura, Soulam) and the very first thing they printed was titled AVANTI and written in Hebrew.
Obviously when seeing an allegedly Hellinic political party that is represented by people clearly of non-Hellinic origin and write their party's documents in a language totally foreign to that of the nation's population they allegedly wish to represent.. you know that trouble is on its way..

And so it did...

During the 3rd KKE Conference that took place from 26 Nov - 3 Dec 1924, we find the original proposal of the formation of an independant Makedonia and independant Thrace..
Repeated by Zachariadis on Jan. 27th 1935, where we find the 'Rizospastis' on its frontpage demanding the separation of Makedonia and Thrace from Hellas and the formation of two independant countries...
This very notion continued to be promoted in the 6th Planary Conference of KKE in Jan. 1934. Where we find that KKE's obligation is :

>> to fight for the ethnic self-determination untill separation of the persecuted Macedonians and Thracians is accomplished. And to cooperate for this purpose with the Bulgarian organizations that are formed to promote the 'inner' resistance of the Macedonian and Thracian resistance organizations<< (5 YEARS OF STRUGGLE 1931-1936 p 201,205,206,212)

The same ideals are promoted during the 5th KKE Conference of March 1934.. Where the same idea of self determination is promoted with the addition of the sentence >> These ethnic minorities are continously persecuted by the Hellinic IMPERIALISTS<<
(5 YEARS OF STRUGGLE 1931-1936 p225)


This was the main slogan supported by the KKE leaders untill Oct. 24th. 1945, when Zachariadis denounced this notion as seen on the front page of Rizospastis of that very date..
Interestingly enough, they did NOT denounce this notion due to a change in politics nor because they understood that this was nothing but a pure act of treason that undermined the nation's borders, but due to the uprise of the simple folk against the very treatorous notion that was supported.. This is proven by his statements in the Dec. 1948 edition of "Democratic Army" p 20-21, where he once again declared the nessicity of the formation of independant countries of United Makedonia and a United Thrace..

Further proof of the continuous attempts to undermine the Hellinic national borders and the collaboration with Bulgarians to achieve their purpose, are found in the accounts of Yiannis Petsopoulos..
Yiannis Petsopoulos, informs us of the decisions of the 4th Conference of the Balkan KK parties of June 1922 in which, the Secretary General of KK Bulgaria, Vasili Kollarof declared, the nessicity of the formation of the above two pseudo-countries.. His proposition was rejected since it wasn't planned to be discussed, after the request of Yiannis Petsopoulos, so that he could bring up the issue for discussion in Athens (Rizospastis 3 June 1922) As he notes in his "The Real Reason for my Dismissal from KKE" pub. 1946 p 47.. This request was second by both the Serb and Romanian representatives that questioned Bulgaria's real intentions, since their defeat in 1913..

He continues in the same book "The Real Reason for my Dismissal from KKE" (pub. 1946 p31-32)
to inform us that in the Plenary Session of May 1922 in Sophia, Vasili Kollarof, brought up the exact same issue, that was then rejected by Petsopoulos and his Serb counterpart on the basis of the numerous 'komitatzides' that acted in the area in question and that the adoption of such a proposal would lead to emmense problems in the area that neither he nor his Serbic counterpart were prepared to accept..

While this was a side quite different to what KKE represented, the KKE desided that Petsopoulos acted correctly. Interestingly enough, their OFFICIAL implement titled "Kommounistiki epitheorisi" Feb. 1924 edition. p.55-56 openly claimed that:

>>Historic accuracies and documents have no regard to the problems of the ethnic minorities. After the 1912 war, the Macedonian ethnicity has become from the slaves of the Turkish Aga and Bey, the slaves of every Slavic and Hellinic merchant and 'tsiflikas'..
Today Macedonian lands are conquered by the country of Hellas and the ethnic minorities of Albanians, Jews, Koutsovlachoi, Serbs, Turks, Bulgars.. while fewer than the Hellinic population when compared as individual minorities, when added together prove that the Hellines are the minority..
Since 1913 and after the population exchange between Hellas and Turkey, and Hellinic populations of Bulgary and Bulgarian populations in Hellas, the Hellinic population has risen. Now they attempt to exterminate the minorities by either Hellinizing them or by their extermination.. The exact same tactics are noted in Thrace..

(somebody obviously neglects to mention that the 'Koutsovlachoi' as their dialect proves are nothing but real Hellines speaking a variation of the Doric dialect..)

During 17th June- 8th July we have the 5th International assembly of the KK in Moscow.
There the KKE representatives Pantelis Pouliopoulos and Serafim Maximos take part in the unanimous decision of the formation of the Independant Makedonian and Thracian nations, just as decided in the 6th Balkan Conferrance..........


So in the "Kommounistiki epitheorisi" Oct. 1924 edition p. 348-349 we find the following :

MACEDONIA AND THRACE :

1) on the Macedonian issue is over 10yrs the reason for continuous wars between Hellas, Turkey, Serbia and Bulgaria due to imperialistic politics that have infiltrated the Balkan region.
The last imperialistic wars of 1914-1918 ended with the economic havoc and the separation of the Macedonian region between Hellas, Serbia and Bulgaria.. has risen the hatred between the populations,,
The separation mentioned has made the Macedonians all over the nation demand a united and independant country.. The very same notion is predominant among the population of Thrace that is separated among Hellas, Bulgaria and Turkey..

2) This situation makes both the Macedonian and Thracian issues of utmost importance and should be resolved by the Balkan KK with the formation of a notion of evolution and Proletarian Revolutions..
This conference notes that the 6th Balkan Conference gave a solution that is of great importance.

3) The Conference notes that the decisions and 'slogans' of the Balkan federation of "United and Liberated Macedonia" and "United and Liberated Thrace" are correct and totally revolutionary...
The slogans of self-determination of various parts of Macedonia and Thrace INSIDE the boundaries of at least one of the existing nations that the Treaty of Serves among other imperialistic treaties constructed, for the oppression of the population of Macedonia and Thrace must be resolved..


Under these orders, our 'brothers' (cough) declared after the 3rd Emergent Conference of KKE (Nov. 26th-Dec. 3rd 1924) the following statements that can ONLY be perceived as TREASON:
(an abstract)

Liberation to Macedonia and Thrace.
The local capitalism.. is persecuting the ethnic minorities in Macedonia and Thrace.. The Hellinic plutocracy with tyrrany is opressing a part of the Macedonian and Tharian people, illegally holding with every possible means the Macedonian and Thracian lands under its control.......................

Hurray, for the worker and farmer rebelion of Bulgaria !!! Hurray for an independant Maceonian and Thrace!!!
Hurray, for the Confederacy of the Balkan social Republics !!!
Hurray, for the international Proletarian revolution !!!

Athens Dec. 3rd 1924


These and similar such texts that can only bring nightmares can be read in 'Rizospastis' of Dec 14th 1924 and the KKE leaflet titled: "The KKE from 1918 to 1926" (Athens 1947 p. 343-345)

It does get even better... to be continued.

Orphic_Hymn
01-17-2006, 07:10 PM
Not sure if this is the best article to add this one in, but it is connected to the events :


PROVOCATIVE DISTORTION OF HISTORY AND EFFORT OF "BEAUTIFICATION OF PAIDOMAZOMA” IN PRINCETON
RECOGNITION OF THE FYROM AS "MACEDONIA" FROM PROFESSOR
WHO TEACHES IN GREEK UNIVERSITY!!!


Distortion of history and none-incriminatory attitude of persons in charge for
paidomazoma was attempted by academicians Riki Van Boeschoten from the

University of Thessaly and Loring Danforth from Bates College, Maine in the frame of a workshop, titled "Refugee Children from the Greek Civil War in Eastern Europe: Displacement, Memory and the Natural Order of Things". In the workshop, which took place on May 10, 2005, in Princeton University, the aforementioned academicians tried to give a rather “rosy” picture of the most horrid crime of humanity, the “paidomazoma” (child-gathering), importing new vocabulary and the presentation of photographic material.


The two anthropologists, Van Boeschoten and Danforth in their respective papers `From "Janissaries" to "Hooligans": Refugee Children in Hungary and `We Came Back Like Angels and Found Ourselves in Hell’, even though they characterized paidomazoma as action of "political expediency", they used terms as "evacuation" while the children that were seized were called "refugees".


The well-known journalist/author, Mr. Nicholas Gage intervened and clarified the term “evacuate” as “the space is evacuated by individuals who are facing natural disasters, such as storms, floods, fires etc”. Mr. Gage also determined the importance of the word "refugee", pointing out that "refugee is the individual who faces predicaments in his area and out of his OWN will resorts to other places where help is granted”.


In Nick Gage’s Eleni, Xantho Veneti, answering to the question of a woman partisan: "Comrade Xantho, will you give your children the chance to live their lives without fear?” she gave the answer that every Greek mother would give, even though she knew this answer was her death: “NONE of us will give you our children” (pg 260).


During the introduction of their papers, Van Boeschoten and Danforth, explained that since 1998 they studied one hundred cases of children of paidomazoma (which they constantly referred to as “evacuation”) in Greece, Eastern Europe and Canada. Their papers were accompanied by photographic material, from victims of paidomazoma, now adolescents henceforth. The photographic material however, emanated from Hungary, depicting modern, well dressed, well coiffed, content teenagers, engaging in ballet, music lessons and sports activities.


Dr. Danforth, supplementing the study of his colleague added that when the adolescents were repatriated they were not satisfied with their environment and their families any more. The two scholars used the term “Macedonia” irrespectively when they referred to the FYROM. It has to be pointed out that Dr. Boeschoten teaches in the University of Thessaly and is paid by the Greek state! We are not aware that Greece has recognized the FYROM as "Macedonia"!


One of the photographs depicted a team of "happy" children and right above them there was a questionable banner in which was written in the Greek language a sign that separated the children as ELLINOPOULA AND "MAKEDONOPOULA"!


Dr. Floudas also pointed out “this ideal, rosy picture that the scientists presented does not reflect reality”. Mrs. Nina Gatzoulis, Vice-President of the Pan-Macedonian Association, USA who also teaches Modern Greek in the University of New Hampshire, observed that “Hungary might have been one of the more progressive countries during the time that these events were taking place, however Hungary was not the only country that the children were disseminated”.


A legitimate question arises as to why the two academics did not present compatible photographs, and studies of children who were sent to other countries of the iron curtain, such as Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, or Albania. Why this unilateral demonstration of photographs from Hungary?
Do the academicians know the case of children that were led to Rumania and for a long time they were on their own, without a guardian? As for their diet in some of these countries, Nick Gage in Eleni writes:

More than thirty years later I had dinner with an Athenian couple, two former children from Lia about the same age as myself, who were taken that summer in the paidomazoma…In the barracks in Albania, they survived mostly on soup made of leeks and on raw dandelion greens, which they scavenged from nearby fields. Their “play” was devising races with their body lice on the barracks floor.


The Pan-Macedonian Association of USA, referring to the customary academic exchange between academicians and audience, points out: "We were particularly astonished that a professor of Greek origin and host of the panel, Dr. Gondicas, denied Mr. Gage to further comment on the issue. Mr. Gage has a plethora of information on the subject, since he personally was involved in the paidomazoma during that time, and he wrote about it in his book Eleni. Mrs. Gatzoulis added: "Indeed representing the Pan-Macedonian Association, I called Dr. Gondicas and I personally asked him to have scholars that have different views than those of Drs. Boeschoten and Danforth, so that a complete picture of the drama would be presented.


Apparently Dr. Gondicas was satisfied in the distortion of history in the frame of a HELLENIC STUDIES PROGRAM in Princeton!! However we wonder how is the Hellenic history and the Greek culture promoted when TRUTH is hushed down in such academic circles by professors of Greek origin?»


Lieutenant General D. Zafiropoulos in his book “Antisymmorikos Agon 1945-49 (pg. 668) inter alias formal protest by various entities world-wide against the paidomazoma, presents what the Voice of America stated on December 29, 1948:


The name of Herod will remain in history linked with one of the most appalling crimes in humanity. Herod sinned against God and man, using the child as vehicle to secure his rule. Now after 2,000 years some other fiends used the child as a political weapon”.


Marcus Templar in his introductory unit, Historical background, states:

…Baba-Donka’s first son, Nikola, during the Bulgarian occupation of the area, decided to walk from Bitola to a neighboring village to see a friend of his. On his way, he was unlucky to meet some Bulgarian troops who thinking that he was a partisan threw gasoline on him and burned him alive.


Because of the above event, after the communist took over Yugoslavia, the communist authorities bestowed the "honor" to Baba Donka, as a hero’s mother to escort the kidnapped children from Greece to Skopje. Baba Donka went to Kremenica, a town on the borders to Greece where the communist Partisans kept the children, put them on a train and from there, they took the children to Bitola and through Prilep, Titov Veles to Skopje. Many of the children were babies crying, the older ones speaking only Greek made the task of the women-escorts difficult. However, what made my Baba Donka’s life extremely difficult was that a good number of children died of illnesses as dysentery, privation, etc. The children were under partisan control unattended for long time.


Concluding, we can say that perhaps it is time now the TRUE history to be heard, perhaps by TRUE scholars in Princeton. Mr. Nick Gage has challenged these two professors to a debate regarding the issue of paidomazoma in one to one basis.

Orphic_Hymn
01-18-2006, 05:56 PM
For our dear friend Nikos, that for some weird reason has disappeared..
Read and learn...


Originally published in the 4th page of the illegal (then) newpaper "Patriotis" that was ELAS-EAM's right-hand propaganda leaflet..

The speech of the #1 leader of all TRAITORS...aka ARIS VELOUXIOTIS



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Please do note :
(my favorite quotes)
quote:

Our purpose is NOT to attack the German nor Italian soldiers that are our brothers being used by Facsists........

quote :

I remind you exactly how they made us in 1912, 17 and then in the 20's to fight in order to conquer Makedonia, Thrace and then A.Minor and subdue people like the Bulgarians and Turks and by doing so open hatred especially with the Bulgarians..
THE NATURAL HELLINIC BORDERS ARE OLYMPOS

My personal opinion..... The hell with anyone that decides to hand out even a cm of these sacred lands... as for those that support them...
No other future than being placed in a :microwave and turned into good ol' soap...

Orphic_Hymn
03-02-2006, 01:23 PM
Part 2



The horrific texts mentioned above can be read in the Rizospastis of Dec. 14th 1924 and in the Communist leaflet "The KKE from 1918 - 1926 p. 343-345

In reality the KKE had began its propaganda for an independant Thrace and Makedonia.Secretary General of the 3rd convention P.Pouliopoulos in his signed article in Rizospastis Dec.14 1924 titled "The Macedonian Volcano" wrote:

"The Makedones workers and farmers,irrespectively of descent, under the yoke of the Balkan bourzoize, that has shared them, despite the various propaganda attempts continue to be connected by a common conciousness.

They yearn an fight to reunite the three parts of their separated country in order to finally obtain united and independant government. The exact same situation applies to the people of Thrace, who are separated by the Hellinic and Turkish bourzoize
The independance movements of the oppressed people of Thrace and Makedonia, is a fight against imperialism and submission to the Balkan bourgeoisie"

The next year the Confederacy of Communistic Youth of Hellas (O.K.N.E) published in cooperation with the Communistic Youth of Bulgaria a manifesto, hand written by Zachariadis, who acted as the leader of O.K.N.E. In the manifesto posted in Rizospastis of June 27.1925 we read the following:

Beyond national borders and hatred
the Confederacies of Communistic Youth
Of Hellas and Bulgaria

Towards:
The Worker and Farming Youth of Bulgaria and Hellas

The Makedonian and Thracian Youth

Young workers and farmers


During the 3 bloody and venturous Balkan wars, the war among the Allies (1913), the world war, and the bloody and venturous campaign of the Hellinic robbers in Asia Minor, thousands of young farmers and workers were slaughtered and mutilated.

Then the capitalists signed peace. But this peace is nothing more than yet another bloody war for the people of the Northern Balkans and their youth.
The Bulgarian and Hellinic capitalists, nationalists, that are nothing more than servants of the English and French bankers, signed a so called agreement of a population exchange. Last Oct. the agreement was changed by the UN, but in reality is in every aspect exactly same as the first one.

This agreement is but a peacefull continuation of the bloodshed in the Balkans. In Bulgaria every day thousands of immigrants arrive from Makedonia and Thrace, immigrants who have been robbed of their homes by Hellas.

The situation has become so unbarable that the Makedonian and Thracian Youth have formed their own rebel organizations to fight for the liberation and independance of their people.

The Makedonian and Thracian people have begun a struggle for their liberation and independance, this struggle is justified by the right of self-determination and shall be continued untill the full separation from Hellas, Bulgaria, Turkey and Yugoslavia and the formation of independant countries.


The Makedonian and Thracian people in their struggle have the full support of all Communist organizations of the Balkans.

The Communist organizations of Bulgaria and Hellas call upon all Bulgarian and Hellinic workers and farmers to fully support this cause, the cause of an independant Makedonia and Thrace.

The Central Commitee of the
confederation of Communistic youth of Bulgaria and Hellas
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Beside the obvious treason performed, the Central Commitee of KK isn't saticfied. They ask for action. To ensure this action, they send to Hellas the Jew Steinhard under the alias of "Gouber". He arrives on Jan. 1930 and presents a number of suggestions and fills a full report of the progress towards the Central Commitee in Moscow of which he was part of.
This report was also presented in the 3rd plennary session of the KK and was posted in the Rizospastis of June 20.1930.
In it we read :


The Hellinic KK has shown a passive attitude in this national issue. Untill today the party hasn't done anything in assistance for the oppressed ethnicities. It seems as if it is simply satisfied with the promotion of the slogan for the independance of Makedonia and Thrace in its official party documents.. We should actually support these ethnicities, but not only by statements, we are obliged to upraise the oppressed, organize their activities and strive to make this issue part of the struggle of our working class and its demands. This means that we should organize their ethnic rebelion.

The Hellinic KK has remained absent from the struggle of the oppressed by the Hellines people. It never attempted to take the matter in its own hands, stabalize and organize the minorities of "Macedonians", Turks, Albanians, Jews against Hellas. It didn't react properly and by doing so allowed the outbreak of an anti-Semitic setiment that it never attempted to stop..
The party is obligde to begin without further delay a fight that should have as a result the separation and the self-determination of these people"
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These ideas were supported later by a special leaflet published by Giannis Zevgos in 1934 under the title "Why the revolution in Hellas will be socialdemocratic"
In page 32 Zevgos analyzed the treason of Makedonia and Thrace under the principles of Marxism and Leninism and states exactly :

"The solution of the ethnic issue is also a matter of a social-democratic revolution is an issue the Hellinic goverment, not only can not solve but implicates severly.In Makedonia and Thrace it has enslaved foreign ethnicities and in order to secure its rule has destroyed over 1.5 million immigrants and is preparing for a new war. The KKE fully supports with all its power the right of self-determination of the population of Makedonia and Thrace to their separation and formation of independant countries. These are the principles of Marx Lenin and our party follows them consistently.."

Then we reach the KKE convention of Mar. 1934 in which the political party again preforms treason as seen in the decision ( see: 5 Years of struggle of KKE 1931-36 p 225)


The Ethnic Minorities

8: The support and reinforcement of the revolting ethnic organizations of the ethnic minorities and the securing of the organizing positions within them, the struggle for all issue of the ethnic minorities, that fight against the ethnic, economic and social oppression of the social-bourgeoisie of Hellas (exact word is "αστικοτσιφλικάδικης") and the recognition of the right of the minorities for self-determination up to seperation of the country, will allow the KKE to win the trust of the oppressed minorities and make them allies in the upcomming revolution in our country. The KKE must decisively fight against Hellinic nationalism inside our lines and for the international breeding of the workers and farmers"
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For the ethnic minorities (note that these are invaders of Hellinic lands) the 3rd plenary session of the Central commitee of KKE (Apr.1935) they demanded thepolitical and ethnic equivalence to all the minorities that live within Hellas"
(5 Years of struggle of KKE 1931-36 p 271,276)