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akritas
01-17-2006, 11:57 AM
One from the common FYROM propaganda is that never show up in the Greek ancient texts the words of Hellene Macedon e.t.c.
The most significant prrove is a Herodotus quote reagrding Alexander in his speech at the Persian ambassadors.
He said Clearly that is a Hellenne Macedonian


When Amyntas made this request and had gone his way, Alexander said to the Persians, “Sirs, you have full freedom to deal with these women, and may have intercourse with all or any of them. [2] As to that, you may make your own decision, but now, since the hour of your rest is drawing near and I see that you are all completely drunk, allow these women to depart and wash, if this is your desire. When they have washed, wait for them to come to you again.” [3] When he had said this and the Persians had given their consent, he sent the women out and away to their apartments. Alexander then took as many beardless men as there were women, dressed them in the women's clothes, and gave them daggers. These he brought in, and said to the Persians, [4] “I believe, men of Persia, that you have feasted to your hearts' content. All that we had and all besides that we could find to give you has been set before you, and now we make you a free gift of our best and most valued possession, our own mothers and sisters. Be aware that in so doing we are giving you all the honor that you deserve, and tell your king who sent you how his Hellenne viceroy of Macedonia has received you hospitably, providing food and bedfellows.” [5] With that, Alexander seated each of his Macedonians next to a Persian, as though they were women, and when the Persians began to lay hands on them, they were killed by the Macedonians.
[Herodotus, Historia, 5.20.1]
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126&layout=&loc=5.20.1





and in the ancient Hellenics

anêr Hellên Makedonôn huparchos

Istor
01-21-2006, 03:24 PM
H plaka einai oti akomh kai o Perseas isxyrizetai oti oi Makedones den htan Ellhnes !!

Kai sthn metafrash tou xwriou gia thn Pindo kai tous Makedones kanoun ena ponhro la8os gia na mhn fanei ka8ara h ellhnikothta twn Makedonwn. Otan diamarthrh8hka giafto, mou eipan oti oi metafraseis den einai dikes tous alla allwn (ili8iwn vevaia)

Ti na peis? To sympan synomotei gia na diapseusei thn alh8eia !!

akritas
01-21-2006, 06:27 PM
We know what the ancient texts said.
hôs anêr (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/morphindex?lang=greek&lookup=a%29nh%2Fr&bytepos=991249&wordcount=1&embed=2&doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125) Hellên (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/morphindex?lang=greek&lookup=%2A%28%2Fellhn&bytepos=991249&wordcount=1&embed=2&doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125) Makedonôn (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/morphindex?lang=greek&lookup=%2Amakedo%2Fnwn&bytepos=991249&wordcount=1&embed=2&doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125) huparchos (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/morphindex?lang=greek&lookup=u%28%2Fparxos&bytepos=991249&wordcount=1&embed=2&doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125)

Έλλην Μακεδόνων

and we the Greeks must know what Herodotus said.