Pan-Macedonian Association USA

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PRESS RELEASE


A strong message was delivered by the Pan-Macedonian Association USA, in the city of Baltimore, MD where the 61st National Convention was carried from June 26 until July 1, 2007.




Prior to the opening of the Convention, which was blessed by His Eminence, Metropolitan Evangelos of New Jersey, an academic conference took place in the Capital Hilton Hotel in Washington, DC titled, A Search for a Roadmap to Peace in the Balkans. Non-Greek and Greek academicians and experts sent everywhere a strong message that the successors of Alexander the Great established the Hellenistic period and were indubitable Greek. The hoe of the archaeologists in all parts of the Hellenistic East was excavating nothing other than monuments and coins with Greek forms, insignias, and inscriptions, similar to those that were discovered in the territories of Greek city-states of that time.



Dr. Potitsa Grigorakou from the Open University of Athens was the Coordinator of the morning panel. Archaelogist Professor Pierre Leriche from Centre d' Archeologie pour l' Orient of Paris via a power point presentation informed the audience about the monuments and the architecture of the Hindo-Hellenistic East, while Dr. Osmund Bopearachhci, from Centre D' Archeologie, E.N.S. Paris presented an abundance of currencies of the Hellenistic era on which the Greek language is engraved and leading figures with Greek names are depicted on them.



The afternoon panel was coordinated by Mr. Gene Rossides, Chairman of the American Hellenic Institute (AHI) and the experts Ted Galen Carpenter, Vice-president of Defense and Foreign Policy Studies, CATO Institute, Washington, DC and Gregory R. Copley, Vice-president of International Strategic Studies Association, Alexandria, VA, presented a geopolitical analysis of the southeastern Balkans. Dr. George Papavizas with his presentation of A Country with a Borrowed Identity made a detailed analysis of historical facts that were instrumental into the further development of the FYROM issue. The presenters emphasized that the proper and just resolution of the FYROM issue, based on historical truth is critical for peace in the Balkans and beneficial to the interests of the United States. The Coordinator of SAE, Mr. Theodore Spyropoulos, with his wife Errica, was present during the academic presentations, while Congresswoman Ileana Ros Lehtinen was the main speaker of the lunch which followed. Greek origin Congressman Zachary Space, also gave a warm greeting in support of the efforts of the Macedonians.



Mr. Markus Templar, historian and Balkan-analyst, on Friday, June 29, 2007, following the Convention’s business, via a power point presentation, proposed the kinship of Macedonian words with words that exist in the dictionary of Hesychius who lived in the 5th century AD. Mr. Templar’s extensive research gives further evidence that even linguistically the Macedonians were Greek. Dr. Dimitrios Pantermalis, also on Friday evening, June 29, via the new technology gave a thorough examination of work which himself has undertaken, of the new Acropolis Museum in Athens. The museum, as explained Dr. Pantermalis, will be ready to open its doors at an early date!!



Congratulatory messages for the 61st Pan-Macedonian Convention were received from the Ecumenical Patriarch Vartholomeos, His Eminence Archbishop Demitrios, the President of Democracy Mr. Karolos Papoulias, the Prime Minister, Mr. Kostas Karamanlis, from Foreign Minister, Mrs. Dora Bakogianni, from the Chairman of Parliament, Mrs. Anna Benaki, from the Minister of Macedonia-Thrace, Mr. George Kalantzis, from Lieutenant Foreign Minister Mr. Theodoros Kassimis. Also Mr. Haitidis, Chairman of Inter-parties Committee of Greeks Abroad and Chairman of Alexandreion Institution in Litochoro, Pieria, founded by the Pan-Macedonian Association, sent a message with warm greetings for a successful convention. The General Secretary of SAE, Dr Olga Sarantopoulos, also sent warm greetings. With letters, Mr. Theodore Spyropoulos, Coordinator of SAE in America and Mr. Emmanuel Velivasakis, Chairman of Hellenic American National Council (HANC), offered their support to the efforts of the Macedonians.



His Excellency Ambassador of Greece in Washington, Mr. Alexandros Mallias, observed with great assiduity the proposals of the academicians, but was also the main speaker of the official dinner on Saturday, June 30, 2007. During his speech he presented the leading presence of Greece in the Balkans. Present at the banquet were Congressman John Sarbanes and Michael Sarbanes (candidate Chairman of the Municipal Council of Baltimore). The Pan-Macedonian Association honored Dr. Ioannis Nathenas and Mr. Christos Tomaras during the dinner, for the long-lasting contribution and their support to the Organization and the efforts of the Macedonians.



The outgoing Supreme President, Mr. Panos D. Spiliakos, stated: “This year is particularly significant for the development of the name issue. The FYROM intolerantly in their irredentist stance is predicted that they will be included in NATO in spring of 2008. If the Greek government does not practice its veto power now, even if the neighboring country agrees to enter as the FYROM, Greece will face difficult moments in the future. The resolution of the 61st Convention of the Pan-Macedonian Association states the following: The Greek Parliament should not ratify any agreement for the admission of Skopje into NATO or the European Union even under a temporary name such as FYROM until an agreement is reached on a final name for the country. This also is the advice of the Macedonians to the Greek government�.



The newly-elected Supreme President, Professor Nina Gatzoulis said: “All the excavated relics in all parts of the world that were touched by the Macedonians were as Hellenic as those of the Athenians, Spartans, and all the other Hellenic city states of that time. FYROM has been challenged on this and has not been able to produce even one shred of evidence to the contrary. It is very important that the entire Omogeneia promotes US House Resolution, 356 that is being introduced by Congresswoman Maloney and Congressman Bilirakis, which advises the leadership of the FYROM to stop its propaganda emanating from the governmental and private institution, and to focus their efforts in finding a name of their country.�



The following are the new officers who were elected the last day of the Convention:




EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE


Supreme President: Nina Gatzoulis
Supreme Vice-President: Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos
Β! Supreme Vice Presiden (Youth): Anastasia Kasseris
Supreme Secretary: Maria Hatzinakos
Supreme Treasurer: Kostas Hatzistefanidis
Treasurer’s Aide: Demitrios Tassopoulos
Legal Advisors: Theodore Vassilakis
Demitrios Ioannidis

GOVERNORS
1. New England: George Tsitsopoulos
2 Southern New England George Vlahopoulos
3. Greater ΝΥ: Mike Barbalios
4. Upstate NY: Nick Kousmanidis
5. Midwestern States: TBA
6. Mid-Atlantic: Stelios Kirimlis
7. Eastern-Midwestern: Christos Papademas
8. Southern States: Paul Voulgaris
9. Plane States: Athanasios Deros
10. Southwestern States: TBA
11. Rocky Mountain: Nick Komnenos

12. Pacific States: Dr. Karl Konstantin

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PAN-MACEDONIAN ASSOCIATION, Inc.U.S.A.
“ SERVING MACEDONIA AND HELLENISM SINCE 1947 �
Honorary President
Archbishop Demetrios

RESOLUTION

The Pan-Macedonian Association of the USA in a duly convened meeting at its 61st National Convention held on June 26 to July 1, 2007 in the city of Baltimore, MD, USA, decided the following:



1. We remain deeply disappointed and strongly oppose the unfortunate decision of our US Government to recognize The FYROM by the name of “Republic of Macedonia�

2. The Pan-Macedonian Association expects from the Greek Government, the Political Leadership of Greece, the United States Government, and the rest of the International Community that the final agreed upon name of the country of The FYROM, should clearly differentiate the residents of that country from us, the Macedonians.

3. The name Macedonia is unquestionably a historical and cultural heritage of Greece. The history of Macedonia and particularly its name are NOT NEGOTIABLE and as a paternal legacy cannot be ceded to third parties.

4. We expect that the permanent name of the country of The FYROM shall express its multiethnic nature and shall permit all its inhabitants to co-exist peacefully.

5. We shall never accept, for the country of The FYROM, any name that will include the term Macedonia or any of its derivatives.

6. We demand that the people of Hellenic origin residing in The FYROM be accorded all their human rights.

7. Historically the Macedonians are Hellenes.

8. The Macedonian identity belongs to those who feel Hellenes from the province of Greece, Macedonia.

9. It is our sacred duty to continue our struggle for the rights of Macedonia. History demands it.

10. We fully support the existence of a country north of Greece with the interim name of The FYROM. We support her efforts to join the EU and NATO, provided her official name does not include the term "Macedonia" or its derivatives. Further, we harbor no animosity or any ill feelings towards her citizens or her diaspora.

The Committee

Panos D. Spiliakos

Nina Gatzoulis

Athanasios Vulgaropulos


Dr. Antonios Papadopoulo
DECLARATION




The Pan-Macedonian Association of the USA in a duly convened meeting at its 61st Annual Convention on June 26 to July 1, 2007, in Baltimore MD, USA declares the following:


1. We strongly oppose the recognition of The Former Yugoslav Republic Of Macedonia (The FYROM) as the “Republic of Macedonia� by the government of the United States of America.





2. We demand that the continuous irredentist propaganda emanating from The FYROM, including the falsification of the Hellenic heritage of Macedonia, stops immediately.


3. We shall never accept an Orthodox Church with the term "Macedonia" or its derivatives in its name.


4. We oppose the use of the name Republic of “Macedonia� in any legal document within the Hellenic Republic, or by Hellenic interests worldwide.





5. We condemn terrorism in all of its forms.


6. Turkey must respect the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus, which is a full EU member, it must immediately remove all its occupation troops, it must remove the illegal settlers who were brought to Cyprus from the mainland of Turkey, it must return all properties to the rightful owners and make all reparations to the Cypriots.

7. We regard the continued discriminatory acts, rules, and policy of Turkey against the Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, as a violation of freedom of religion that is inconsistent with the country's aspirations to become a member of the European Union. We demand the reopening of the Theological School of Halki, the restoration of the confiscated property of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and we demand respect for the property rights of Hellenes in Constantinople.

8. We demand recognition by the U.S.A. and Turkish governments of the genocides against the Armenian, Assyrian as well as the Hellenic genocide. We note that the recent decision by Turkish Supreme Court rejecting the ecumenicity of the Patriarch is contrary to European Union Laws.

9. We oppose the continuous violations by Turkey of the Greek territorial space.

10. We demand from the Republic of Bulgaria the return of the Holy Relics that were stolen from the monasteries of Drama and Serres.

11. We demand the return of the Parthenon Marbles to the place of their origin.

12. The Kalash of the northern Himalayan region of the Hindu Kush Mountains of Pakistan are Hellenic descendants of the armies of Alexander the Great. The Kalash Indigenous people have sustained their ancient culture and traditions since the 4th century B.C., yet they are in danger of extinction. Being our Hellenic Macedonian brothers and sisters, we support their efforts to sustain their ethnic values and identity.

13. We support the Kalash proposal to “Bring the Glory Back� which is, to apply the rule of Law of Alexander the Great, as the guideline for the Security Council of the United Nations�.

14. The retrieval of bones of Greek soldiers, who fell during WWII against the Italians in the mountains of Northern Epirus, is not an economic transaction, but a humanitarian issue and our national duty. The road of Albania to the European Union requires the Respect of Human, Political, Cultural, Religious and Educational Rights of the Greek minority.

15. The Albanians should cease all propaganda regarding the Chams if Albania is to proceed in its Euro-Atlantic integration.

16. We regard as Hellene whoever wants to be considered as such, regardless of his language.

17. We urge all Greek-Americans to register to vote and exercise that right in all upcoming elections. We also urge them to influence their local, state and national Representatives to support the Hellenic national issues and specifically support HR 356 regarding the irredentist propaganda of the FYROM.

18. The Greek Parliament should not ratify any agreement for the admission of Skopje into NATO or the European Union even under a temporary name such as FYROM until an agreement is reached on a final name for the country.



The Committee:




Panos D. Spiliakos


Nina Gatzoulis

Athanasios Vulgaropulos
Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos

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ΑΝΑΚΟΙΝΩΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΑΜΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΩΝ ΕΝΩΣΕΩΝ ΑΝΑ ΤΗΝ ΥΦΗΛΙΟ

Έλληνες Συμπατριώτες,

Οι Παμμακεδονικές Ενώσεις ανά την υφήλιο, στενά παρακολουθώντας τις χρόνιες και εις βάρος των Ελληνικών θέσεων εξελίξεις του θέματος της ονομασίας της γείτονος χώρας, και εν όψει των προσεχών βουλευτικών εκλογών της 16ης Σεπτεμβρίου, προτρέπουν:

ΑΠΑΙΤΗΣΕΤΕ από τους υποψήφιους πολιτικούς να προστατέψουν την ιστορία της Μακεδονίας μας.
ΑΠΑΙΤΗΣΕΤΕ από τους υποψήφιους πολιτικούς να προστατέψουν την ταυτότητά μας.
ΑΠΑΙΤΗΣΕΤΕ από τους υποψήφιους πολιτικούς να προστατέψουν την ακεραιότητα της Μακεδονίας μας και ολοκλήρου της Ελλάδος.
γείτονές μας ενώ έχουν δεσμευτεί με την Ενδιάμεσο Συμφωνία του 1995, να μην προβούν σε προπαγανδιστικές ενέργειες, δεν έχουν σταματήσει να οικειοποιούνται την δική μας ιστορία, αποβλέποντας σε μια «Μακεδονία» της οποίας τα σύνορα θα φτάνουν μέχρι την Θεσσαλία.

Οι Έλληνες ψηφοφόροι, συνειδητοποιείστε πως στην περίπτωση Ελλάδας και Σκοπίων πραγματοποιείται κλοπή σε παγκόσμιο επίπεδο, παραβίαση διεθνών συμφωνιών με τη συμβολή πολλών. Οποιαδήποτε Ελληνική κυβέρνηση που δεν αντιδρά στο σφετερισμό της πολιτιστικής μας κληρονομιάς και τη διαστρέβλωση της ιστορίας της Μακεδονίας μας και ολοκλήρου της Ελλάδος, γίνεται μέρος αυτής της μεγάλης διεθνούς απάτης.

Η λεγόμενη οικονομική διπλωματία και η προώθηση τουριστικών δεσμών μεταξύ πΔΓΜ και Ελλάδος απετέλεσε τον ακρογωνιαίο λίθο της Ελληνικής Εξωτερικής πολιτικής με την υπόθεση ότι αν προωθηθούν αυτές οι καλές σχέσεις, η πΓΔΜ θα συμφωνήσει να αλλάξει το όνομα του κράτους της. Αυτή η πολιτική σήμερα έχει στραφεί εναντίον των συμφερόντων του Ελληνισμού, διότι πολιτικοί ανά τον κόσμο αναρωτιούνται «τι ενοχλεί το όνομα Δημοκρατία της «Μακεδονίας» την Ελλάδα, εφόσον εσείς οι Έλληνες είστε τόσο καλοί φίλοι με τους «Μακεδόνες». Καλούμε τους συμπατριώτες μας να αναθεωρήσουν κάθε σκέψη επίσκεψης στην πΓΔΜ διότι έμμεσα αναγνωρίζουν αυτό το κράτος ως «Μακεδονία» όταν μπαίνουν με διαβατήρια/ταυτότητες, τα οποία σφραγίζονται από την «Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας».

ΔΩΣΕΤΕ την ψήφο σας μόνον όταν οι πολιτικοί δεσμευτούν δημοσίως προεκλογικά πως σε καμία περίπτωση δεν πρέπει το Ελληνικό Κοινοβούλιο να επικυρώσει οποιαδήποτε συμφωνία για την εισδοχή των Σκοπίων στο ΝΑΤΟ ή την Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση, ακόμη και με το προσωρινό όνομα πΓΔΜ έως ότου επιτευχθεί συμφωνία για το τελικό όνομα αυτής της χώρας.

ΔΩΣΕΤΕ ΤΗΝ ΨΗΦΟ ΣΑΣ ΟΤΑΝ ΟΙ ΑΡΧΗΓΟΙ ΤΩΝ ΚΟΜΜΑΤΩΝ, ΑΠΕΡΙΦΡΑΣΤΑ ΔΗΛΩΣΟΥΝ ΤΙΣ ΠΡΟΘΕΣΕΙΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ ΔΗΜΟΣΙΑ ΔΕΣΜΕΥΤΟΥΝ ΞΕΚΑΘΑΡΑ ΠΡΟΕΚΛΟΓΙΚΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΟ ΜΕΙΖΟΝ ΑΥΤΟ ΘΕΜΑ ΤΗΣ ΕΞΩΤΕΡΙΚΗΣ ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗΣ ΤΗΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΟΣ.

Το θέμα της ονομασίας της πΓΔΜ για μας τους Μακεδόνες δεν είναι πολιτικό, αλλά είναι θέμα καταγωγής, ταυτότητας, πολιτιστικής κληρονομιάς και ιστορικής καταβολής.

Με πατριωτικούς χαιρετισμούς,

Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Αμερικής Νίνα Γκατζούλη, Ύπατη Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Αυστραλίας Δημήτρης Μηνάς, Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Καναδά Χαράλαμπος Μουτουσίδης, Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Ευρώπης - Αρχιμανδρίτης Παντελεήμων Τσορμπατζόγλου, Πρόεδρος
Μακεδονικά τμήματα Νοτίου Αφρικής - Γρηγόρης Γαρύτσης

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12 Αυγούστου 2007
Προς Δώρα Μπακογιάννη
Υπουργό Εξωτερικών
Εξοχότατη κυρία Υπουργέ,
Οι Έλληνες Μακεδόνες ανά την υφήλιο και γενικά η Ομογένεια αγωνιωδώς παρακολουθούμε τις ραγδαίες και αναπάντεχες εξελίξεις στην διαδικασία έκθεσης για την πρόοδο της Πρώην Γιουγκοσλαβικής Δημοκρατίας της Μακεδονίας ως κράτος υποψήφιο για την ένταξή του στην ΕΕ, κατά τη διάρκεια συνέλευσης των Ευρωβουλευτών στο Στρασβούργο.
Σύμφωνα με άρθρο της Ελευθεροτυπίας Åëåõèåñïôõðßá - Äé÷ÜóôçêáÃ* ïé ÅëëçÃ*åò, Ã*áé áðü Ã�.Ä. ãéá ôá Óêüðéá! (http://www.enet.gr/online/online_text/c=110,id=53106340) «Υπέρ της απαξιωτικής για τις ελληνικές θέσεις στο θέμα της ονομασίας των Σκοπίων έκθεσης ψήφισαν οι ευρωβουλευτές της Νέας Δημοκρατίας».

Κυρία Υπουργέ, η Ομογένεια των ΗΠΑ, του Καναδά, της Αυστραλίας και άλλων χωρών του κόσμου συνεχίζουν τον αγώνα που άρχισαν στις αρχές της δεκαετίες του 1990 και υπάρχουν ανοιχτά μέτωπα, όπου αυτή τη στιγμή διεξάγονται μάχες, όπως στις εξής τρεις περιπτώσεις:
1) Η Ομογένεια των ΗΠΑ καταβάλλει κάθε προσπάθεια να προωθήσει το Ψήφισμα του Κογκρέσου 356, το οποίο παρουσιάστηκε από τους Βουλευτάς Maloney και Bilirakis THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/). Το Ψήφισμα αυτό, το οποίο υποστηρίζεται από 72 Βουλευτές και τρεις Γερουσιαστές, καταδικάζει την επίμονη προπαγάνδα των Σκοπίων, η οποία πηγάζει από κυβερνητικούς και ιδιωτικούς φορείς.
2) Το μέλος του Κογκρέσου της Νέας Yερσέης, Bill Pascrell, επηρεασμένος από την προπαγανδιστικές δραστηριότητες ακτιβιστών της Σκοπιανής Διασποράς που είναι εγκατεστημένοι στην εκλογική του περιφέρεια, αποφάσισε να δημιουργήσει την Ένωση «Μακεδονικής» Φιλίας με την οποία θα προωθούσε τα συμφέροντα των Σκοπίων στην Ουάσιγκτον. ..:: MRT.com.mk ::.. (http://www.mrt.com.mk:80/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id)= 3201&Itemid=27 Όμως σε ένδειξη αποφασιστικότητας σύσσωμη η Παμμακεδονική Ένωση και γενικά η Ομογένεια των ΗΠΑ κατάφεραν μέχρι στιγμής να αποτρέψουν αυτή την απόφαση, με τηλεφωνήματα, γράμματα και ηλεκτρονικά μηνύματα στο γραφείο του πολιτικού.
3) Στο ίδιο μήκος κύματος, ο Σκοπιανής καταγωγής βουλευτής του Καναδά Lui Temelkovski επηρεασμένος από την Σκοπιανή Διασπορά που υπάρχει στην περιοχή του Τορόντο, κατέθεσε πρόταση στην Καναδική Βουλή (C-443) για την αναγνώριση της πΓΔΜ ως «Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας ». Η Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Καναδά και σύσσωμη η οργανωμένη Ελληνική Ομογένεια του Καναδά (με τη συμπαράσταση δύο Βουλευτών και της τ. Υφυπουργού Ελληνικής καταγωγής) καταβάλλουν προσπάθειες με συνδυασμένες ενέργειες να αποτρέψουν την ψήφιση αυτής της πρότασης με την έναρξη των εργασιών της Καναδικής Βουλής τον ερχόμενο μήνα.

Τη ίδια αυτή στιγμή Έλληνες Ευρωβουλευτές, εκπρόσωποι των ελληνικών συμφερόντων στην ΕΕ, υπερψηφίζουν αυτήν την απαράδεκτη έκθεση! Μπορείτε να σκεφθείτε τη δύσκολη θέση της Ομογένειας, αν οι αντίπαλοι μας πληροφορηθούν την αποδοχή της έκθεσης από Ευρωβουλευτές της Ν.Δ.;

Η δε παράγραφος πως το πρόβλημα του ονόματος είναι άσχετο με την ένταξη των Σκοπίων στην ΕΕ είναι ιδιαίτερα ανησυχητική και αν αυτή η στάση υιοθετηθεί από τους υπευθύνους της εξωτερικής πολιτικής της χώρας μας, θα είναι ιδιαίτερα επιβλαβής για τα συμφέροντα του Ελληνισμού.

Η έκθεση επίσης «επισημαίνει ότι υπάρχουν ορισμένες χώρες στην Ευρώπη η ονομασία των οποίων συμπίπτει με την ονομασία τμήματος του εδάφους γειτονικού κράτους και ότι κάθε κράτος επιλέγει το όνομά του ελεύθερα...» Δηλαδή ο κάθε λαός έχει το δικαίωμα να σφετερίζεται το όνομα και την πολιτιστική κληρονομιά ενός γειτονικού λαού; Η ύπαρξη όμως τέτοιου δικαιώματος έχει ως όριο ότι το άλλο ενδιαφερόμενο μέρος δεν θα υποστεί επιβλαβή ζημία. Στη σύγχρονη παγκόσμια ιστορία, συμπεριλαμβανομένης της Ευρωπαϊκής, υπάρχουν πλείστα προηγούμενα που καταρρίπτουν το δικαίωμα του λεγόμενου «αυτοπροσδιορισμού».
Υπενθυμίζουμε ότι όταν μετά τον Πρώτο Παγκόσμιο Πόλεμο η βουλή της Αυστρίας επέλεξε το όνομα «Γερμανική Δημοκρατία της Αυστρίας», υπεχρεώθη να το αλλάξει σε «Δημοκρατία της Αυστρίας» με τη συνθήκη του St. Germain (10 Σεπτ. 1919). Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) (http://www.austlii.edu.au/) au/other/dfat/treaties/1920/3.html και Republic and the Parliamentary System (http://www.parlinkom.gv.at/portal/page?_pageid=1033,657862&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&P_TEXT=1&P_MEHR=J) Η έκθεση του Ολλανδού Ευρωβουλευτή κ. Μέιγερ αναφέρεται και στην Κίνα, παραβλέποντας τα προβλήματα που αντιμετωπίζει με την Ταϊβάν για το θέμα του ονόματος. InfoWorld - Information Technology News, Computer Networking & Security (http://www.infoworld.com/) article/05/10/05/HNtaiwanprotestsgoogle_1.html

Παρά τις κατά καιρούς ενστάσεις των Ελληνικών κυβερνήσεων, η μαθητιώσα νεολαία της πΓΔΜ εξακολουθεί να γαλουχείται σε πνεύμα αλυτρωτισμού για τα δήθεν «κατεχόμενα μακεδονικά εδάφη». Είναι δε άξιο προσοχής ότι οι επίσημοι ιστορικοπολιτικοί κύκλοι της πΓΔΜ και της Διασποράς αμφισβητούν ως θέμα αρχής την κυριαρχία της Βουλγαρίας και της Ελλάδας στα μακεδονικά εδάφη εξακολουθώντας να αποκαλούν με άκρατη αλαζονεία και αδιαλλαξία τις γεωγραφικές αυτές περιοχές ως «Μακεδονία του Πιρίν» και «Αιγιακή Μακεδονία», αντί της Βουλγαρικής και Ελληνικής Μακεδονίας.

Η Â«ήπια πολιτική» την οποία έχουν υιοθετήσει όλες γενικά οι Ελληνικές κυβερνήσεις από το 1991 έως σήμερα, κάτω από την καθοδήγηση ορισμένων φορέων και ΜΚΟ, έχουν επιφέρει ολέθρια αποτελέσματα. Θεωρούμε ότι το επίμαχο ζήτημα του ονόματος της γείτονος χώρας είναι άρρηκτα συνδεδεμένο με τον σφετερισμό και την μονοπώληση του όρου Μακεδονία και των παραγώγων του από την πλευρά του επίσημου εθνοκεντρικού «Μακεδονισμού». Οφείλουμε να σας επισημάνουμε ότι η πΓΔΜ έχει επιτύχει να διεθνοποιήσει το πάγιο αίτημα της για επίσημη αναγνώριση «Μακεδονικής» μειονότητας στην Ελλάδα.
Κατά την εκτίμηση μας, η πολιτική διάσταση του «Μακεδονικού μειονοτικού ζητήματος» είναι ήδη εδραιωμένη σε διεθνείς φορείς και, εκ των πραγμάτων, θα μπορούσε να χαρακτηρισθεί ως ανεξέλεγκτη στη παρούσα της φάση. Σημειωτέον δε ότι πέραν της αυτοαποκαλούμενης «Μακεδονικής» μειονότητας, ορισμένοι διεθνείς (αλλά και εγχώριοι) ημιεπίσημοι φορείς/ΜΚΟ απεργάζονται σχεδίων ανάδειξης δήθεν «Βλαχικής/ Αρωμανικής» μειονότητας στον Ελληνικό Μακεδονικό χώρο (τη στιγμή μάλιστα που οι Ελληνικές διπλωματικές αρχές στη πΓΔΜ διακατέχονται από μια άκρως διστακτική -έως αρνητική- συμπεριφορά έναντι των Ελληνόβλαχων ομογενών μας στην Πελαγονία).

Υπό το φως ραγδαίων πολιτικών εξελίξεων και στα πλαίσια πολιτικής παρέμβασης της Ε.Ε. προς επίλυση της ονομασίας της πΓΔΜ, η τυχόν αναγνώριση μιας πλασματικής «Μακεδονικής» μειονότητας εντός της Ελληνικής επικράτειας, κάτω από εξωγενείς πολιτικές πιέσεις, θα ήταν ολέθρια εγκυμονώντας σωρεία κινδύνων και περιπετειών για την χώρα μας. Αναφέρουμε ενδεικτικά ότι ο επαναπατρισμός στην Ελλάδα «Αιγαιατών» πολιτικών προσφύγων κυρίως από την πΓΔΜ, την Αυστραλία και τον Καναδά, με πλήρη αποκατάσταση Ελληνικής υπηκοότητας και απόδοση/αποζημίωση περιουσιών, θα ισοδυναμούσε με εμφύτευση μιας εθνικής μειονότητας -δίκην ξένου σώματος- με αλυτρωτικές τάσεις στις παραμεθόριες περιοχές της Β.Δ. Ελληνικής Μακεδονίας. Αναμφισβήτητα, μια τέτοια πολιτική επιλογή θα επισφράγιζε την παταγώδη αποτυχία της Ελληνικής εξωτερικής πολιτικής ως προς το Μακεδονικό.

Κυρία Υπουργέ, τα μέλη των Παμμακεδονικών Ενώσεων ανά τον κόσμο, και γενικά η Ομογένεια, για να μπορέσουν να εξακολουθήσουν τους αγώνες τους, επιβάλλεται να έχουν τη διαβεβαίωση εκ μέρους της Ελληνικής κυβέρνησης πως όλα τα πολιτικά κόμματα και ιδιαίτερα το κυβερνόν κόμμα, είναι συντονισμένα και κατευθύνονται προς ένα σκοπό, δηλαδή τη διαφοροποίηση των Σκοπίων από την Μακεδονία μας και τη διαφύλαξη της ιστορίας και ταυτότητάς μας. Σε καμία περίπτωση δεν πρέπει το Ελληνικό Κοινοβούλιο να επικυρώσει οποιαδήποτε συμφωνία για την εισδοχή των Σκοπίων στο ΝΑΤΟ ή την Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση, ακόμη και με το προσωρινό όνομα όπως πΓΔΜ έως ότου επιτευχθεί συμφωνία για το τελικό όνομα της χώρας.
Μετά τιμής διατελώντες,
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Αμερικής Νίνα Γκατζούλη, Ύπατη Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Αυστραλίας Δημήτρης Μηνάς, Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Καναδά Χαράλαμπος Μουτουσίδης, Πρόεδρος
Παμμακεδονική Ένωση Ευρώπης - Αρχιμανδρίτης Παντελεήμων Τσορμπατζόγλου, Πρόεδρος
Μακεδονικά τμήματα Νοτίου Αφρικής - Γρηγόρης Γαρύτσης

Κοινοποίηση προς: Πρωθυπουργό, κύριο Κώστα Καραμανλή,
Πρόεδρο Δημοκρατίας, κύριο Κάρολο Παπούλια
Υπουργό Μακεδονίας/Θράκης, κύριο Γεώργιο Καλαντζή
Νομάρχη Θεσσαλονίκης, κύριο Παναγιώτη Ψωμιάδη
Δήμαρχο Θεσσαλονίκης, κύριο Βασίλειο Παπαγεωργόπουλο
Άπαντας τους Βουλευτάς του Ελληνικού Κοινοβουλίου
Μέσα Μαζικής Ενημέρωσης

[Draco]

Nimetz held talks with the leaders of the Pan-Macedonian Association of America. Here's a (rather awkward sounding) translation of this article (http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_kathremote_1_12/11/2007_211719) by Kathimerini.
Leaders of the Pan-Macedonian Association of America met on Friday afternoon with the special mediator of the United Nations for the name of Skopia, Matthew Nimetz. As the leaders of the Pan-Macedonian Association mentioned, Mr. Nimetz avoided revealing the content of his proposal to both sides and mostly listened to the opinions of those with whom he spoke.

"We presented our steady positions on the issue" was said by the participants in the meeting, adding "apart from our mentioning the historical aspects of the question, we emphasized to Mr. Nimetx that in case Skopia is recognized as Macedonia, it will be choosing a crisis and not a solution".

[akritas]

November 9, 2007

Mr. Matthew Nimetz
UN Mediator

Honorable Mr. Nimetz,

We are very grateful to meet with you. As American citizens of Macedonian descend (Macedonians are the Hellenes originally from the Hellenic province of Macedonia) we are very concerned with the events unraveling in the Balkans, especially with the prospect of The FYROM joining NATO before the name issue is settled with Greece.

The FYROM is a small country in the southern Balkans with very serious external and internal problems. It is the only country in Europe that succeeded in having open serious conflicts, with no prospect of resolution, with each of its four neighbors. Incredibly however, they have an entirely different type of conflict with each one of these neighbors.

In the north with Serbia who is a member State with The Partnership for Peace and an aspiring new NATO member, they have an open conflict with their schismatic illegal church, the so-called “Macedonian Orthodox Church� and this fact has angered their Serbian northern neighbor.

On the eastern side Bulgaria, a NATO member, does not recognize the so-called “Macedonians� as a distinct nation, nor a “Macedonian� language and accuses the FYROM of stealing its history. Amazingly enough The FYROM currently seems to have claims either linguistically or ethnologically to approximately 20% of the territory of this NATO ally of ours, Bulgaria.

On the west side the citizens of Albania clearly do not consider, and rightfully so, that 25% of the population of The FYROM should be called “Macedonians.� They consider them their Albanian brethren.

In the south they succeeded in angering Greece, and especially us, the true Macedonians, by using our identity and stealing our glorious history. After all Alexander the Great the Macedonian, spoke Greek, used the Hellenic alphabet, carried Homer’s works with him and spread the Hellenic language and civilization throughout the then known world. He did not speak the Bulgarian dialect that The FYROM people speak; he did not use the Cyrillic alphabet, which had not even appeared till about one thousand years after his death. Alexander the Great is our Abraham Lincoln, as he united the North and the South of the Hellenic World under Hellas.

The Slavs cannot be ethnically, linguistically or culturally Macedonians simply because they did not exist in this area until the 6th century AD, when they descended from Siberia and settled there. The Hellenic name Macedonia, which had always identified the northern area of Greece, preceded the introduction of the majority Slavic population of The FYROM in the Balkans by well over 2000 years. It is therefore of utmost importance that their nationality and language does not include the term “Macedonian.�

Mr. Nimetz, if the name is positive for Greece, the FYROM people might be very upset, but there is absolutely nothing they can do to upset their relationship between their country, the US, NATO and the EU.

On the other hand a humiliating solution for Greece, totally unacceptable for the Greeks, such as “Republic of Macedonia-Skopje,� would anger the people and this would tremendously limit the financial interaction between the two countries. This would be a big blow for the fragile economy of this unstable multiethnic country. If the Greeks will not be buying their products and visiting this neighboring state, the financial problems for the FYROM, will be tremendous. And your efforts, Mr. Nimetz, would totally fail to create good neighborly relations, trade and tourism and financial prosperity in the Southern Balkans.

In addition, the outcome of the last elections was the result of the arising nationalism in Greece due to two factors: one is the attempt to change Greek history in schoolbooks and the second one is the name issue of the FYROM. The ruling party right now is weak, having only 152 seats and there will not be a consensus from all political parties in the name issue, thus projecting destabilization.

As of the 2004 census only 62.5% of FYROM’s population call themselves “Macedonians.� Taking into consideration the very low birth rate of the Slavic inhabitants and the very high birth rate of the ethnic Albanians, it is likely that in the not so distant future, less than half of the population will be identifying themselves with the name of that country. Why would the US promote this false “Macedonian� identity, creating huge problems between the FYROM and Greece, especially in the way the two countries would be expected to work together within NATO?

We noted with interest the recent developments of the resignation of the President of the Constitutional Court, an Albanian, who disagreed with the majority democratic vote of the Court in reference to the usage of the Albanian flag (which is a flag of a foreign country) in the municipal buildings of the country.

These actions clearly indicate the profound ethnic division in the FYROM and the myth of the so-called stable multiethnic “democracy.� It seems that it is neither stable nor democratic.

In reference to the assumption that there will be a unified “Macedonian� army to work “side by side� with its other NATO counterparts, we have this question: when the Slavic and Albanian youth do not play together, refuse to go to the same classroom, do not learn each other’s language, what makes NATO and the US and the UN believe that there is any reasonable hope these people could work together?

There seems to be an increased defiance in the FYROM by armed Albanian elements and the fact that this country uses its constitutional name does not appear to be a stabilizing factor at all. We are in a position to know that the Albanian element of the FYROM truly wishes to be part of NATO and EU and understands that the intransigence of the majority of the Slavic government creates a huge problem for the Albanians’ prosperity and Euro Atlantic integration.

In reference to your comments regarding the legacy of Alexander the Great, during your interview with Dnevnik’s Zana P. Bozinvska, it appears that you are in the opposite side of the overwhelming majority of scholars worldwide, who consider Alexander the Great an extremely important historical figure, truly the first leader in the history of mankind to introduce the idea of globalization.

It was during the Roman period that Alexander III, son of King Philip of Macedonia, was indeed referred as “Great� for the first time. His deeds are admired throughout the world and his military genius is taught in many contemporary military institutions globally, including the US military academy of West Point. Alexander of Macedonia created a massive empire and spread the Hellenic culture and thought. It is this legacy which allowed Christianity to be spread throughout the ancient world, using the Greek language as vehicle.

Mr. Nimetz, please advise The FYROM’s leadership to stop the propaganda against Greece, to stop teaching their youth that their land is under Greek occupation and to find with Greece a mutually acceptable name for their country, which will be compatible with all its neighbors and will serve as a unifying force for all of its multifaceted population. This will then promote the Euro-Atlantic integration of The FYROM, entrance into EU and good neighborly relations.

Sincerely,

Nina Gatzoulis
Supreme President

Maria Hatzinakos
Supreme Secretary

Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos
Supreme Vice-President

[pankration]

Brilliant and about fucking time. Bravo to the committee. And to my American friends: you must convince these politicians that kissing FYROM's ass because they sent a few dozen soldiers to Iraq to probably wash cars is the greatest idiocy this century. Greece, not Turkey, not FYROM or any other Balkan country is the USA's greatest friend in the region.

[Truth Bearer]

What soldiers do you think the fyromians sent?Well let me tell you it is Albanian fyromians thus being Muslims they feel they are safer than the Slavic ones.

[akritas]

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[Foti66]

Nice!!

[akritas]

PAN-MACEDONIAN ASSOCIATION USA ANSWERS ZLATKO KOVACH’S ALLEGATIONS (http://modern-macedonian-history.blogspot.com/2008/03/pan-macedonian-association-usa-answers.html)

We are shocked and appalled that Mr. Kovach was permitted to use the esteemed Hemisphere Institute to promote his unfounded anti-Hellenic agenda and attempt to promote negative feelings against Greece and the people of Greece. We expect and demand an apology by Mr. Kovach to the Hellenic community at large that he so much insulted.

Zlatko Kovach, in his Macedonia: Reaching Out To Win L. American Hearts (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0802/S00363.htm), proves one more time that he is the product of the continuous brainwashing condition and lies, provided by an education system which emerged from a Balkan nation, under Tito’s and Stalin’s tutelage.

Mr. Kovach begins his elaborations, stating: “Macedonia historically and culturally did transcend the country's current borders. In 1912-13, through two brutal regional wars, Macedonia was forcefully partitioned among Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia. The Macedonians were subject to qualified genocide and many were driven from their land. It is this reality that Greece tirelessly tries to cover up.” Mr. Kovach fails to bring up that during the Ottoman era which lasted for five hundred years and ended in 1912 in that area, there was no use of the term Macedonia (meaning the boundaries of the geographic or ancient Macedonia). Ancient Macedonia was divided in two vilaets, the vilaet of Thessaloniki and the vilaet of Monastiri (Bitola). Skopje was the capital of the Kossovo vilaet and was never included in the so-called geographic Macedonia.

The author of this article is referring to the Slavic element that existed in Macedonia as part of a “Macedonian” nation whose people were wronged and “were subject to qualified genocide and many were driven from their land.” He however fails to explain why there was no “Macedonian ARMY” to fight for the rights of the supposed “ethnic Macedonians” during the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913. In addition during the negotiating talks of the Bucharest Treaty, which determined today’s borders with Greece’s neighbors, there were no representatives of any “Macedonian Nation”. The 1914 Carnegie Report (Report of the International Commission to Report on the Causes and Conduct of the Balkan Wars) not only did not record the existence of a “Macedonian” army, but neither did it record the existence of any “ethnic Macedonian” civilians.

The Slavs did not arrive in the region until the sixth century AD. Until 1944, the area that is now legally referred to as the FYROM was called "Vardarska Banovina" until the Hellenic name of Macedonia was usurped by Marshall Broz Tito. According to Interim Accord (Sept. 13, 1995) and under the aegis of UN (UN Resolutions #817 of April 7 and #845 of June 18) of the year 1993, the temporary name until both countries, Greece and the aforementioned state, reach a permanent solution about this issue, is “the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia”, or simply The FYROM. The Interim Accord was signed by BOTH Greece and The FYROM, and its purpose was to find a name for the aforementioned country.

“…Greece labeled any use of Alexander the Great’s name by Macedonia as hostile propaganda…it was the Macedonian forces of Alexander the Great, led by his father King Philip II of Macedon, that beat the entire Greek army at Chaeronia in338 B.C. and conquered the modern Greeks’ ancestors,” writes Mr. Kovach. The author however, plunged into oblivion that the FYROM propaganda machination has provided for him, does not understand that his government’s actions over the years, such as distortions of geographic maps, revision of textbooks in their schoolbooks, renaming of their airport “Alexander the Great,” create hostility and animosity among their youth which is lacking knowledge to mainstream history. These actions and not Greece’s are the true threats to stability and have become the obstacle to their accession into EU and NATO.

The FYROM is a small country in the southern Balkans with very serious external and internal problems. It is the only country in Europe that succeeded in having open serious conflicts, with no prospect of resolution, with each of its four neighbors. Incredibly however, they have an entirely different type of conflict with each one of these neighbors.

In the north with Serbia who is a member State with The Partnership for Peace and an aspiring new NATO member, they have an open conflict with their schismatic illegal church, the so-called “Macedonian Orthodox Church” and this fact has angered their Serbian northern neighbor.

On the eastern side Bulgaria, a NATO member, does not recognize the so-called “Macedonians” as a distinct nation, nor a “Macedonian” language and accuses the FYROM of stealing its history. Amazingly enough The FYROM currently seems to have claims either linguistically or ethnologically to approximately 20% of the territory of this NATO ally of ours, Bulgaria.

On the west side the citizens of Albania clearly do not consider, and rightfully so, that 25% of the population of The FYROM should be called “Macedonians.” They consider them their Albanian brethren.

In the south they succeeded in angering Greece, and especially us, the true Macedonians, by using our identity and stealing our glorious history. After all Alexander the Great the Macedonian, spoke Greek, used the Hellenic alphabet, carried Homer’s works with him and spread the Hellenic language and civilization throughout the then known world. He did not speak the Bulgarian dialect that The FYROM people speak; he did not use the Cyrillic alphabet, which had not even appeared till about one thousand years after his death. Alexander the Great is our Abraham Lincoln, as he united the North and the South of the Hellenic World under Hellas.

Mr. Kovach seems to forget something very important. The Greek businesses that exist in his country right now have created over 30.000 jobs in FYROM’s depleted economy. Greece actually is helping its neighboring country to prosper economically and is guiding the FYROM on its way to EU and NATO, under one condition: the Slavs cannot be ethnically, linguistically or culturally Macedonians simply because they did not exist in this area until the 6th century AD, when they descended from Siberia and settled there. The Hellenic name Macedonia, which had always identified the northern area of Greece, preceded the introduction of the majority Slavic population of The FYROM in the Balkans by well over 2000 years. It is therefore of utmost importance that their nationality and language does not include the term “Macedonian.”

The author continuing the myth which he learned in the schooling he received, writes: “Greece is administratively divided into thirteen regions, three of which include the word Macedonia: "Region of Western Macedonia", "Region of Central Macedonia" and "Region of Eastern Macedonia and Thrace", but take notice that none of the regions are named simply "Macedonia." The liberation of present day Greece from the Ottomans did not happen simultaneously in all former Greek territories, but it happened in different stages. In 1912-13, parts of Macedonia and Epirus were liberated. Since then Macedonia has been called as such. In fact, the first administrator in Thessaloniki in 1913 was called “Governor of Macedonia”. The term Northern Greece was ONLY for the Greek Ministry in Thessaloniki, because it included the region of Thrace as well. The Minister of this part of the Greek mainland is therefore called, the Minister of Macedonia and Thrace.

We agree that every country has the right to exist and find a proper name for itself, as long as no other ethnic group had previously rights to the same name. No German would allow a non-German ethnicity to call itself Bavarian. Therefore it is impossible for Greece to allow any non-Greek people identified as Macedonian, because the name implies Greek identity. The same would be true for Peloponnesus/Peloponnesians, Thessaly/Thessalians, etc., all being parts of the Hellenic world and identity for thousands of years. The name Macedonia/Macedonian has been copyrighted by Greece for thousands of years. Greece used the self-determination right first and she named one of her provinces Macedonia, first.

[akritas]

FYROM ACADEMICIANS CONTINUOUSLY AVOID HONEST DIALOGUE (http://modern-macedonian-history.blogspot.com/2008/06/fyrom-academicians-continuously-avoid.html)


The historically, linguistically and archeologically incorrect challenges to Greece emanating from Skopje that ancient Macedonian was not a part of the ancient Greek world, but today’s FYROM’s inhabitants are the direct descendents of the ancient Macedonians, has been exacerbated by systematic and relentless propaganda for quite some time now.

On April 25, 2008 the prestigious Smithsonian Residence Association Program presented “A Glimpse into Macedonia, Past and Present” by art historian and “Macedonian” native (http://modern-macedonian-history.blogspot.com/2008/02/dear-all-please-take-look-at-lecture.html), Aneta Georgievska-Shine. The electronic advertisement for this stated that Dr. Georgievska-Shine will speak about her native, “Macedonia”: “Home to exquisite Byzantine churches with beautifully preserved frescoes and valuable icons, the Republic of Macedonia is a country of rich and complex cultural identity. From antiquity, when Alexander the Great created an empire that reached as far away as India, to the first decades of the 20th century, when this country finally gained its present-day borders, Macedonia has been one of the most contested geopolitical prizes in southeastern Europe”.
We were somewhat pleasantly pleased that Dr. Georgievska-Shine presented a rather generous Hellenistic view to the Ancient Macedonians and the later Byzantine era, however, at numerous instances her subtle, well planed, remarks and arguments left room for dispute. These remarks and arguments that to the general audience appear as benign acceptable conditions actually hide behind dangerous malignant propaganda. Dr. Georgievska-Shine did refer to the FYROM inhabitants as “Slav-Macedonians” for most of her presentation but she subtly mentioned: “Alexander I of Macedon was the first Macedonian king to promote the adoption of the Attic culture.” In addition, alluding to Alexander the Great’s conquests, she mentioned: “Philip’s son Alexander the Great created an even bigger empire, not only conquering the rest of Greece but also seizing control of the Persian Empire, Egypt and lands as far east as the fringes of India. He adopted and spread the Greek culture in these territories.”
If this claim of “adoption” of the Greek language is true, thus eluding that the Macedonians spoke something other that Greek and therefore were not part of the then Greek world, then, at what point in his life did he “adopt” the Greek name Alexander meaning “defender of man” and what was his name prior to this point?
If his father Phillip was not Greek, why did he also have a Greek name meaning “friend of the horse”?
At what point did Alexander also “adopt” the Hellenic culture and religion the he spread to all ends of the then known world?
Why were the Macedonians allowed to take part in the ancient Olympic games that only Hellenes?

At the end of the presentation the Smithsonian Residence Association organizers of the conference allowed time for only one question and one comment. The question asked was: If the Macedonians were Greek, as you mentioned during your presentation, what is the relationship of today’s inhabitants of the FYROM with the ancient Macedonians? On what historical and ethno-cultural basis do you make the link of the modern day Slavs to Alexander?” Dr. Georgievska-Shine’s reply was that “…since the Macedonians were one of the most powerful peoples in the region, the Slavs adopted elements of the most dominant populace…in addition numerous conquerors overtook the region that those peoples did not exist any more.”

Someone from the audience then replied “Perhaps a lot of conquerors had settled on the area for a while, but they came and went… Greeks can claim that they have uninterruptedly been living in the same area, they talk a language that linguistically derives from the same Greek language and have preserved customs and features in the culture which come from antiquity,” adding “I find Dr Georgievka Shine’s comments on the “adoption of the Attic Greek dialect” by Alexander I the Macedon and by Alexander the Great fallacious, as the ancient Macedonians had their own Greek-Doric (North-West Doric) dialect, which can be attested by the Pella Katadesmos.”

Record note: In 1986 a scroll was found in the area of Pella and published in the Hellenic Dialectology Journal in 1993. It is known as the Pella katadesmos or the curse of Pella. It was written in the mid 4th century BC. According to the Journal “It is a magic spell or love charm written by a woman, named Dagina, whose lover Dionysophōn is apparently about to marry Thetima.” She invokes "Makron and the demons"to cause Dionysophon to marry her rather than Thetima. Professors Olivier Masson in the Oxford Classical Dictionary and James L. O’Neils from the University of Sidney, both concur that “The language is a harsh but distinctly recognizable form of North-West or Doric Greek, and the low social status of its writer, as evidenced by her vocabulary and belief in magic, strongly hint that a unique form of Doric Greek was spoken by lay people in Pella at the time the tab was written.

We were not afforded the opportunity to ask and discuss many other questions/arguments with Dr. Georgievska Shine’s as it is traditionally done in any academic environment, especially of the caliber as that of the Smithsonian Institute, as the program coordinators of the aforementioned institute cut us off with the excuse that the hall had to be readied for a different event. Furthermore, the speaker appeared to have been rushed off through an unseen exit, not event giving us the chance to have a few minutes of casual conversation with her. We met with a few of the Smithsonian coordinators just outside of the lecture hall for some time and expressed our concerns but during this time we did not see anyone making any sorts of preparation in the lecture hall.

Dr. Georgievska Shine during her presentation mentioned: “The Slavs of the Ottoman Macedonia were members of the Orthodox millet according to the Ottoman administration system that recognized religious and not national identities. They declared themselves largely as Christians.”

Record note: Even though we were not given the opportunity to reply to Dr. Georgievska-Shine during the question/answer period, we would her to note that the census by Himli Pasha in 1906 refers to various ethnicities in that area; however there is no mention of any “Macedonians.”423,000 41.71% Muslims (Turks and Albanians) 259,000 27.30% Greeks 178,000 18.81% Bulgarians 13,150 1.39% Serbs 73,000 7.72% others
We also like her to note that during the Ottoman era there was no use of the term Macedonia (meaning the boundaries of the geographic or ancient Macedonia). Macedonia was divided in two vilaets; the vilaet of Thessaloniki and the vilaet of Monastiri (Bitola). Skopje, the present capital of FYROM, was in a separate vilaet, the Kossovo vilaet with Skopje as its capital also. The Kossovo vilaet was outside of and was never any part of the so-called geographic Macedonia. Dr. Georgievska-Shine should also note that the percentages she mentioned that were received by the countries that liberated the area from the Ottomans-“Greece received 52%, “Macedonia” 38%, and Bulgaria 10%,” do not correspond to historic Macedonia, but to the area liberated from the Turks by the four allies (Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Mavrovounion). That is, the area that was liberated was the area of the Ottoman vilaets of which the geographic Macedonia was a part of and a smaller portion of the whole liberated area. Actually Greece received 70% of the historic geographic Macedonia. About 3/5 of today’s FYROM, never belonged to ancient Macedonia, including its capital, Skopje, as this part was in the Kossovo vilaet which, as mentioned, was outside of the geographic Macedonian area.

Dr. Georgievska-Shine stated: “Vardar Macedonia incorporated into Serbia and referred to as South Serbia. The easternmost part of Macedonia ceded to Bulgaria (Pirin Macedonia). The southern part (Agean Macedonia) incorporated into Greece and referred to as northern Greece.”

Record note: The liberation of present day Greece from the Ottomans did not happen simultaneously in all former Greek territories, but it happened in different stages. In 1912-13, parts of Macedonia and Epirus were liberated. Since then Macedonia has been called as such. In fact, the first administrator in Thessaloniki in 1913 was called “Governor of Macedonia”. The term Northern Greece was ONLY for the Greek Ministry in Thessaloniki, because it included the region of Thrace as well. The Treaty of Bucharest on August 10, 1913 only set the borders of Bulgaria and its neighbors. It did not split “Macedonia,” as many FYROM sources are claiming. It did however split relevant Turkish vilayets.

The area that later comprised of the former Yugoslavia's southern republic was not called Macedonia but it bore the name of Vardarska Banovina (Province -of the river- Vardar). It was in 1944 that Marshal Joseph Broz Tito, the communist dictator ruling Yugoslavia at that time, created Yugoslavia's southern republic and called it "People’s Republic of Macedonia" and in 1963 "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" for purely political and expansionist reasons.

Record note: It is not the first time that American citizens of Macedonian/Greek descent, members of the Pan-Macedonian Association USA, observed their history being falsified, and denied their right to defend their ancestral history in prestigious academic institutions, right in their homeland!! On September 20, 2003, a symposium, titled "The Importance of Ilinden in the Awakening of Macedonian National Consciousness", took place in the School of Journalism, Columbia University, on September 20, 2003 and was sponsored by the Harriman Institute of Columbia Univeristy, the East Central European Center and the Macedonian Arts Council. It had as its main theme the anniversary of the Ilinten revolution against the Turkish rule in the Balkans. Mr. Kiro Gligorov, the former President of the FYROM, was the main speaker.

The theme of Mr. Gligorov's speech was "Macedonia from Ilinten until Now". Other participants in the discussion were Dr. Nadine Akhund, from Columbia University, addressing "1903 Seen Through the Eyes of Europe", Dr. Duncan Perry, "1903-The Ilinden Uprising and its Legacy". Mr. Blaze Ristovski from the Macedonian Academy of Science and Arts (MANU) introduced "Macedonia in 1903" and Dr. Andrew Rossos from the University of Toronto spoke on "Macedonian National Consciousness in 1903".

Dr. Nantine Akhurd, who received her doctorate at the University of Sorbonne, France, spoke first. She addressed the events that occurred in 1903 in Macedonia. She came to certain conclusions from the research she did, based on the correspondence of various European diplomats of that time. She read certain letters of diplomats and at the end she concluded that the Turks did not keep accurate records, "therefore it is difficult to calculate the exact number of the ethnicities that existed in the Turkish-occupied Macedonia. However from the correspondence of the diplomats we can assume the most prevailing nationalities were Slavic, Bulgarian and Serbian. In addition there were French, German and Italian companies in Salonik". No mention at all about the Greek element in the area!!

The rest of the academicians spoke and all of them praised and glorified the Ilinten uprising, which even though was not successful, "Macedonia" emerged as an international issue, which resulted in the awakening of the "Macedonian" national consciousness. No one mentioned that this uprising was staged by the Bulgarians and the Bulgarians were inviting all the nationalities in the area, even the peasant Turkish population, to revolt against the Sultan. No one pointed out that the Manifesto of Krushevo was written in Bulgarian. None of the academicians revealed that during the revolt, with Krushevo as its epicenter, the Turks who had been bribed by the Bulgarians exterminated the Greek population and the Hellenized Vlachs of Krushevo. No one mentioned that 366 Greek homes and 203 Greek shops were destroyed by the vengeance of the Turks and Bulgarians. The Slavs, today's self-proclaimed "Macedonians" were coerced to finance the "revolution", but as soon as they found the chance, they escaped to the mountains (Douglas Dakin).

Dr. Duncan Perry in his book The Politics of Terror: The MacEdonian Liberation Movement, 1893-1904, identified this uprising as an act of terror. It is not known under which circumstances he changed his opinion and why during the deliverance of his theme he concluded that the Ilinten revolution "awakened the "Macedonian" national consciousness".

A translator read Mr. Blaze Ristovski's lecture. King Philip, Alexander the Great, as well as Cyril and Methodius were depicted as "Macedonian" personas. Following a ten-minute break, Mr. Herbert S. Okun, former American Ambassador to UN, introduced the keynote speaker, the former President of the FYROM, Mr. Kiro Gligorov. The American former Ambassador named Mr. Gligorov as the "peace-maker" of the Balkans and "George Washington" of "Macedonia", since under his direction "Macedonia" was able to face various problems such as the problems with the Serbian Church, problems with the Albanians and issues with Greece about the name".

A copy of Mr. Gligorov's translated in English address was distributed to the audience, since the former President spoke in "Macedonian". Some college students, sitting near us, explained that they were Bulgarians, they however could understand everything that Mr. Gligorov was saying (but don't the FYROM people insist that their language is the same language that Alexander the Great and his "Macedonian" soldiers were using to communicate?). Mr. Gligorov's speech lasted for two hours and he continuously was receiving messages from various individuals. In the beginning we thought that individuals in charge of the symposium were trying to urge him to be brief, but as we assumed they were rather urging him to do otherwise. Thus reaching the end of his lecture there was no time for the academically established etiquette of "questions and answer period" between panelists and audience, especially in such an institution of higher learning as the Columbia University.

From various articles written previously there were a number of voices that advocated contradictory theories about the origins of the FYROM inhabitants. Here are some testimonies from The FYROM’s officials:

The former President of The FYROM, Kiro Gligorov said: “We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" (Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35).
Also, Mr Gligorov declared: "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia… Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century" (Toronto Star, March 15, 1992).
On 22 January 1999, Ambassador of the FYROM to USA, Ljubica Achevska gave a speech on the present situation in the Balkans. In answering questions at the end of her speech Mrs. Acevshka said: "We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great … Greece is Macedonia’s second largest trading partner, and its number one investor. Instead of opting for war, we have chosen the mediation of the United Nations, with talks on the ambassadorial level under Mr. Vance and Mr. Nemitz." In reply to another question about the ethnic origin of the people of FYROM, Ambassador Achevska stated that "we are Slavs and we speak a Slav language.”
On 24 February 1999, in an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM'S Ambassador to Canada, admitted, "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian." He also commented, “There is some confusion about the identity of the people of my country."
In addition, the Foreign Minister of the FYROM, Slobodan Casule, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje on December 29, 2001, said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria, Solomon Pasi that they "belong to the same Slav people.”

Conclusion: Consequently, the plethora of questions, including questions about FYROM’s officials testifying their no-relation to ancient Macedonians that we had, remained unanswered in both prestigious US institutions of higher learning. Both were unacceptable incidents for the caliber of such institutions.

We consider that Columbia University and the prestigious Smithsonian Institute were unknowingly used by the FYROM propagandistic entities to further their quest to legitimize the usurpation of the Macedonian name, history, and culture while negotiations for resolution of these are ongoing between FYROM and Greece. Since we, and the general audience, were not afforded the opportunity to ask questions and to have a full discussion of the subject matter presented by Dr. Georgievska-Shine at the Smithsonian on April 25, 2008, we consider that the Smithsonian Institute should afford the opportunity for a presentation at the institute from the Hellenic perspective.

Cc Barbara Tuceling, Director of Smithsonian Resident Associate Program
Francine C. Berkowitz, Office of International Relations SRAP
Fay Dale Browning, Program Manager-Education and Cultural Program Smithsonian Assoc.
Senator Robert Menendez
Senator Barack Obama
Senator Olympia Snowe
Senator Carl Levin
Senator Debbie Stabenow
Congressman Gus Bilirakis

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What soldiers do you think the fyromians sent?Well let me tell you it is Albanian fyromians thus being Muslims they feel they are safer than the Slavic ones.

Um the soldiers are seen wearing crosses.

[akritas]

Τρίτη, 14 Οκτωβρίου 2008
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Ερωτηματικά προκαλεί το γεγονός ότι η πλειοψηφία του Αθηναϊκού Τύπου με ελάχιστες λαμπρές εξαιρέσεις απέφυγε τη δημοσίευση του Δελτίου Τύπου που εξέδωσε η Παμμακεδονική Ενωση Αμερικής στις 27 Σεπτεμβρίου 2008 με τίτλο «Συνάντηση της ηγεσίας της Παμμακεδονικής Ενωσης Αμερικής με την ΥΠ.ΕΞ. κα Ντόρα Μπακογιάννη» και τους ακόλουθους υπότιτλους:
Δράσεις στην Ελλάδα που υποσκάπτουν τις ελληνικές θέσεις
Ο Μάθιου Νίμιτς εμφανίζεται ως ο πρώτος πρόεδρος φιλοσκοπιανού Μ.Κ.Ο. στην Ελλάδα
Φιλοσκοπιανή προπαγάνδα μέσα από το ΕΛΙΑΜΕΠ
Αμερικανικές εκλογές και πιέσεις στην ΕλλάδαΣτο εν λόγω Δελτίο Τύπου το οποίο και επισυνάπτεται στο τέλος της παρούσης, γινόταν αναφορά μεταξύ άλλων στη σχέση του καθηγητού κ. Θάνου Βερέμη με δραστηριότητες και εκδόσεις που σκοπεύουν στην αλλοίωση της Ελληνικής ιστορίας ώστε να αμβλυνθούν οι αντιδράσεις στις υποχωρήσεις που απαιτούν ξένοι παράγοντες προς όφελος της π.Γ.Δ.Μ και της Τουρκίας.


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