Euklid
05-16-2007, 08:35 AM
Chaos, just another theory, just another point of reference, i dare say NO!
In order for my "heresy" to become a bit clearer i would like you to watch this short video (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html).
(second column, first row. 2 conflicting set of laws)
This video is advertising the new String Theory, there is a huge flaw in their assumptions, they believe that the structured theory of relativity comes in contrast with the sub-atomic chaotic world of quantum mechanics. What they fail to understand is that the structured law of relativity is not in conflict, but it is merely a part, an illusion of the outcome of chaotic combinations which we perceive as structured through our "mediocre" senses. These 2 are not in conflict, these 2 just share a cause and effect relationship, one deals with abstract infinity, the other assigns finite characteristics in order to be able to see, describe and express just a part of the infinity. If i was to express it mathematically, then i would say that Chaos is the circle and relativity theory is just one point of the angles. It is an assigned point of reference which gives us info only for that part not for the whole circle.
How will we ever understand Chaos? By assigning in-finite points of reference and then combining them, one would say, and that would be the easy way. Gathering the effects and try to figure out the cause. Thats how we as humans enter to the circular "mediocrity" of chasing our tail like a frenetic dog. Why do we have to understand and explain Chaos? Due to our curiosity another would say. In any case, understanding it or not, one can certainly try to align himself with the Silence of Chaos through meditation. After some serious thought, i have come to the conclusion, that as humans it is wiser for us to try to sense Chaos through meditation, instead of entering to the circular domain of Einstein and try to assign finite characteristics to infinite so that we get a small preview of a small part of the whole.
But why do we do it? In order to position ourselves on the relatively optimum point of our illusional set of reality. What do we achieve through this? or better what are we trying to achieve through this? Happyness, equilibrium, but is it equilibrium? Or is it just the equilibrium point of the subjective assigned optimum? Every time we find another equilibrium on another assigned point of reference we flatter ourselves by saying that we move forward, when in reality we are just moving on the same radius on the same circle, and when we finish with all the points, we will eventually end up to where we were before. So why do it? But then again, why not? These question will remain unanswered for the time being. The certain thing is lets not fool ourselves; forward has nothing to do with moving along the circle.(epi to cyclo). And on this sense it is God that will supposedly help us overcome this trouble. It is god that will help us exit from the frenetic circle.
The question that remains is why humans like to follow Gods such as the above(Allah, Savaoth, Yahve), when in fact these Gods are indeed just another point of reference, they are as much an idol as my £10 pound bill, when they speak, and act accordingly based on a set of values, they become what they supposedly fight against. They become just another point on the circle. When we know that Chaos(God) is the bloody circle. When we know already with much certainty that the circle is independent from our positioning on the circle. But is it? Independent? Ofc its not, and hence the butterfly effect. It is in this sense, that we are part of the circle, that we are kat' eikona and kath 'omoiosis, it is this sense that God is "inside" us, it is the power of the butterfly effect that explains that we are not independent values outside the circle of God, but we are indeed part of the circle, and we influence and get influenced along the lines of the circle. However, entering on the belief that our small actions are enough to cause the circle to relocate us inside or outside of the circle is indeed another manifestation of our ego-centric nature. Valid hypothesis, sure it is, valid conclusion? there's a question....I say, whatever path one chooses, either assigning finite point of the circle and chase his own tail, or choose to live in the ignorance of the unexplained, one must comprehend Epicurus full words: The "Gods" are so "far" from us, that even our combined butterfly effects are not enough to cause them to destroy us or punish us. And it is in this sense that all organized religions got it wrong and went that far as to create a system of values based on the theory of the butterfly effect when in essense, they did exactly what they were not supposed to. They assigned points of reference and brought God down to earth. The Hypothesis might be valid, but the samples have proven to be either incorrect or misplaced or insufficient. The most correct or better the least wrong is the one who chooses the best and most voluminous samples and always in regard with the optimum for the specific of that given time and space. And hence why science and secularism or Logos always comes on top. In short, it is due to the assignment of those that are immediately needed to secure an optimum position for that specific, instead of assigning one optimum for everything at the same time, religion only chooses to see a small part of the picture, and congratulate herself afterwards, for holding only one perspective. It surely all boils down to one. But not the one that religion has us believe, the one that religion has us believe is as valid as the optimum that science has us believe, with the exception that science and philosophy, will not stop to the one, but they will go for the infinity in order to see the actual one and on the way to solve the billions of questions regarding always our positioning on the circle. Will we ever understand Chaos? Probably not.
Science understands, sees and accepts its own mediocrity, Allah, Yahve, Savaoth do not see their own mediocrity for they are just assigned points of reference.
Chaos is not another point of reference, it is the circle.
And hence why Chaos never speaks, or acts on a behalf. Its majesty no matter if comprehended or not, there is one sure thing about it, Chaos will never order itself for our little mediocre minds. Chaos will never become just another point of reference.
Source (http://noemon.blogspot.com/2007/05/chaos-heresy.html)
In order for my "heresy" to become a bit clearer i would like you to watch this short video (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html).
(second column, first row. 2 conflicting set of laws)
This video is advertising the new String Theory, there is a huge flaw in their assumptions, they believe that the structured theory of relativity comes in contrast with the sub-atomic chaotic world of quantum mechanics. What they fail to understand is that the structured law of relativity is not in conflict, but it is merely a part, an illusion of the outcome of chaotic combinations which we perceive as structured through our "mediocre" senses. These 2 are not in conflict, these 2 just share a cause and effect relationship, one deals with abstract infinity, the other assigns finite characteristics in order to be able to see, describe and express just a part of the infinity. If i was to express it mathematically, then i would say that Chaos is the circle and relativity theory is just one point of the angles. It is an assigned point of reference which gives us info only for that part not for the whole circle.
How will we ever understand Chaos? By assigning in-finite points of reference and then combining them, one would say, and that would be the easy way. Gathering the effects and try to figure out the cause. Thats how we as humans enter to the circular "mediocrity" of chasing our tail like a frenetic dog. Why do we have to understand and explain Chaos? Due to our curiosity another would say. In any case, understanding it or not, one can certainly try to align himself with the Silence of Chaos through meditation. After some serious thought, i have come to the conclusion, that as humans it is wiser for us to try to sense Chaos through meditation, instead of entering to the circular domain of Einstein and try to assign finite characteristics to infinite so that we get a small preview of a small part of the whole.
But why do we do it? In order to position ourselves on the relatively optimum point of our illusional set of reality. What do we achieve through this? or better what are we trying to achieve through this? Happyness, equilibrium, but is it equilibrium? Or is it just the equilibrium point of the subjective assigned optimum? Every time we find another equilibrium on another assigned point of reference we flatter ourselves by saying that we move forward, when in reality we are just moving on the same radius on the same circle, and when we finish with all the points, we will eventually end up to where we were before. So why do it? But then again, why not? These question will remain unanswered for the time being. The certain thing is lets not fool ourselves; forward has nothing to do with moving along the circle.(epi to cyclo). And on this sense it is God that will supposedly help us overcome this trouble. It is god that will help us exit from the frenetic circle.
The question that remains is why humans like to follow Gods such as the above(Allah, Savaoth, Yahve), when in fact these Gods are indeed just another point of reference, they are as much an idol as my £10 pound bill, when they speak, and act accordingly based on a set of values, they become what they supposedly fight against. They become just another point on the circle. When we know that Chaos(God) is the bloody circle. When we know already with much certainty that the circle is independent from our positioning on the circle. But is it? Independent? Ofc its not, and hence the butterfly effect. It is in this sense, that we are part of the circle, that we are kat' eikona and kath 'omoiosis, it is this sense that God is "inside" us, it is the power of the butterfly effect that explains that we are not independent values outside the circle of God, but we are indeed part of the circle, and we influence and get influenced along the lines of the circle. However, entering on the belief that our small actions are enough to cause the circle to relocate us inside or outside of the circle is indeed another manifestation of our ego-centric nature. Valid hypothesis, sure it is, valid conclusion? there's a question....I say, whatever path one chooses, either assigning finite point of the circle and chase his own tail, or choose to live in the ignorance of the unexplained, one must comprehend Epicurus full words: The "Gods" are so "far" from us, that even our combined butterfly effects are not enough to cause them to destroy us or punish us. And it is in this sense that all organized religions got it wrong and went that far as to create a system of values based on the theory of the butterfly effect when in essense, they did exactly what they were not supposed to. They assigned points of reference and brought God down to earth. The Hypothesis might be valid, but the samples have proven to be either incorrect or misplaced or insufficient. The most correct or better the least wrong is the one who chooses the best and most voluminous samples and always in regard with the optimum for the specific of that given time and space. And hence why science and secularism or Logos always comes on top. In short, it is due to the assignment of those that are immediately needed to secure an optimum position for that specific, instead of assigning one optimum for everything at the same time, religion only chooses to see a small part of the picture, and congratulate herself afterwards, for holding only one perspective. It surely all boils down to one. But not the one that religion has us believe, the one that religion has us believe is as valid as the optimum that science has us believe, with the exception that science and philosophy, will not stop to the one, but they will go for the infinity in order to see the actual one and on the way to solve the billions of questions regarding always our positioning on the circle. Will we ever understand Chaos? Probably not.
Science understands, sees and accepts its own mediocrity, Allah, Yahve, Savaoth do not see their own mediocrity for they are just assigned points of reference.
Chaos is not another point of reference, it is the circle.
And hence why Chaos never speaks, or acts on a behalf. Its majesty no matter if comprehended or not, there is one sure thing about it, Chaos will never order itself for our little mediocre minds. Chaos will never become just another point of reference.
Source (http://noemon.blogspot.com/2007/05/chaos-heresy.html)