Nikolaos Martis and "The Falsification of Macedonian History",1984

[Vasiliye]

Do you know where one can see the eventual online version of this splendid book?It is available at Skopje's University Library but I need the online version, which I remember seeing couple of years ago, in order to translate some chapters in the language of my misguided co-citizens.

[akritas]

There are some quotes of the book in


Nikolaos Martis: MACEDONIA (http://www.hri.org/Martis/index.html)

[Vasiliye]

Thank you, Akritas!But the whole original version seems not to be online (or not?). I would realy like to translate Martis's "Macedonia" together with the documents in skopian language.These people need education, only as educated person they'll cease to have a desire to inflate their own ego with usurpation of foreign histories.

[akritas]

There is not on-line this book. From the given link in my opinion the best part are the questions to FYROMacedonians.


To recognize the people of FYROM as "Macedonians", given their claim that the ancient Macedonians, Alexander, the Ptolemies, the Seleucids, and even Cyril and Methodius were not Greeks, would lead to such absurdities as, for instance:

Should we consider not Greek but Slav the Macedonian Former President of the Hellenic Republic, Mr. Constantine Karamanlis, and some three million Greek Macedonians throughout the world, who are proud to bear, as Greeks, the Macedonian name?
Should we give a new name to the Hellenistic Period (336-30 BC) and, thencefore, call it the FYROMian Period?
Should we "slavicise" in our history books the Macedonian Ptolemy I (who built the Library of Alexandria and preserved the works of the ancient Greek philosophers for posterity), Ptolemy II (who translated the Bible into Greek), and Ptolemy V (whose vow on the Rosetta stone, now preserved in the British Museum, is in Greek, Egyptian and hieroglyphics)?
Should more credence be given to Skopje's distorters of history than to the Old and New Testament texts and the works of ancient Greek, Roman, and Jewish writers who identify the Macedonians as Greeks?
How should we identify the Macedonian masses who watched Greek comedies tragedies and- presented in the Greek language, of course, in Macedonia's ancient theaters at Dion, Vergina, Philippi, and Thassos. Were they FYROMians, i.e. new style "Macedonians"?
Was the "man of Macedonia" who appeared in AD 50 to St. Paul in a vision in Troy in Asia Minor and spoke to him in Greek (acts 16:9) not a Greek?
Are St. Paul and Silas - who, as we are told in Acts 17:4, 12, en- Intered Greek men and women in Thessaloniki and Beroea - to be contradicted?
Is more credence to be given to Skopje than to three Popes who categorically stated that St. Cyril and Methodius were Greeks, i.e. 1. (ACTA) PIUS p.p.xi, 13.2.1927, 2. (ACTA) IOANNIS p.p.xxiii, 11.05.1963 and 3. Pope John Paul, who, since 1980, has repeatedly confirmed, it despite Skopje's claim of ethnic ownership of these two famous Greek Byzantine personalities? Is Mr. Gligorov to be condoned for his unseemly conduct in attempting to mislead world opinion from the United Nations rostrum with his statement that "Christianity was the Macedonian people's gift to the Slavs"? (see Document No 20 (http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc20.html)). I have already cited that in both the Epistola Enciclica and in 1990 the Pope himself declared in Moravia that if the Slavs became Christians they owed it to the two Greek monks from Thessaloniki.
When the Romans minted coins bearing the name "Macedonia", with Greek lettering and Macedonian emblems, were they influenced in doing this by the non-Greek ancestors of FYROM?
The very fact that the ancient Greek gods were perceived by ancient Greeks to have their home on the Macedonian Mount Olympus laughs to scorn the claim of FYROM' politicians and authors that the ethnic boundaries of their pseudo-Macedonian nation extend to the top of Mount Olympus. Should we deduce that the identity of the Greek "12 Gods" run the risk of being appropriated by the authorities of the new "Macedonian Republic of Skopje"?
The Macedonian language: Skopje's claim that the ancient Macedonians' language was not Greek is preposterous. The National Research Center in Athens has collected and published 5,000 Greek inscriptions from Macedonia. We challenge Mr. Gligorov and all those who thoughtlessly accept Tito's fabrication of a "Macedonian language" to produce just one inscription in this supposed ancient "Macedonian, non-Greek" tongue- and we will give them the name of Macedonia.Nikolaos Martis: MACEDONIA (http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/main7.html)

[Vasiliye]

Capable rethorical questioning from a senior man, with obviously keen and sharp mind.

[preston]

Thank you, Akritas!But the whole original version seems not to be online (or not?). I would realy like to translate Martis's "Macedonia" together with the documents in skopian language.These people need education, only as educated person they'll cease to have a desire to inflate their own ego with usurpation of foreign histories.

You should contact his publishing house via ordinary post, with your request and some reference as to your ability to translate from English to Makedontsi. Make sure you state "For non Comercial use" and they will propably pay you (provide you with cost covering grands) for your efforts. Tha is if they consider you capable enough.
I will support you !

[Greece2006]

I have read this fabulous book. The book is written so well in such a clear and intelligent manner not like what the skopjens would write, and the evidence the writer provides is just amazing.

I wonder if any Skopjens have ever read this book and if they have do they still have the audacity to claim their lies and deceit.

Vasiliye, do you know if any Skopjens have read this book?

[Athena]

I don´t think that any Skops have read the book.
They ,as usually,would say thats Greek Propaganda.
Somebody of them presented ,in a German Forum,the letter which Pope
JohnPaul II wrote to the ex Greek Primeminister C.Caramanlis(senior) in 1981
as a letter to the Skopjian PM.
I laught to dead!!!!

[Athena]

And they forget that the Book was Published first time in 1982!!!!

[Istor]

as a letter to the Skopjian PM.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks bre Athena !!

[HellenicPride]

I actually found and bought the book in a bookstore in Astoria Queens NY.

[akritas]

The book has been re-publish from the Macedonian publishing house Malliaris Paideia.

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[pankration]

Historical revisionists hate more than any other, when one of their own tells the truth. Great questions!

[Nick]

Iwould like to know how i would go about buying the book. I cannot seem to find anywhere
to buy it.

[Truth Bearer]

Good point i want the book too how do we get it??

[Nick]

Anyone please?

[Victor]

click (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=The+Falsification+of+Macedonian+History&x=52&y=13)

[Nick]

Excellent. Thank you Victor.

[Truth Bearer]

Isn't there an update newer edition??

[TheSerbianLibertarian]

I contacted the Publisher with a preliminary proposal of translation and publication of the book in FYROM's language. Let's wait and see.

[Nick]

TB, i think if you want a new, up to date copy, the best thing would be to go to the website www.malliaris.gr . All the others i have searched for are older publications.

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Try this one.

The Falsification of Macedonian History, by Nikolaos Martis (http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=600008&da=y)

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

This book sounds great. Has anyone clicked on the link and read it?

[Athena]

This book sounds great. Has anyone clicked on the link and read it?


The Book IS great.Nikolaos Martis has a lot of thinks to take the Skops apart
(as we say in Germany)in that book.
I bought that book in Greece in 1989-90.But i´m going to get the newest
publication when i´m in Greece next month.
And if you remind yourself when the first publication was (i think 1982)than
you can exactly see how "Prophetical" it is......
Nikolaos Martis knows what he is talking about...